Forced milking via ESTIM the DIY cheap way that really works

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    i'll have to try look for one of these probes, i have the rubber pipings but i tend to get a localised burning sensation when placed arounfd my cock or balls, as for the pads they dont tend to stick very well around that area even though i dry it off, i thought about one of those metal but plugs and sticking the pad on the ens much similar to the door stop......another project for me LOL
     
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    I have an Estim power box 2B and many many files on iPod I run through the 2b. A couple of the files unexpectedly completely ruined my orgasms.
     
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    It's "forced", in that it relentlessly marches the recipient towards orgasm even if he (or she) is really trying to hold back.
     
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    Ive used a Dr.Ho TENS unit for sore muscles.
    Works great and available at any pharmacy.
     
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    Interesting idea here...like the idea of forced milking, but will continue to monitor this thread, as well as do some research myself and see what I can find out about this technique.
     
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    Big question is does being milked by TENS count as an orgasm?
    Would be allowable as a form of release?
    To take the place of jerking off for an example.
     
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    I would start off simpler: a bipolar butt plug will "ghost fuck". The estim signal causes the anus to contract, which pushes the plug further in. So all you need is an estim unit and one of those. Some are shaped to hit the prostate.
     
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    What OP describes isn't what I would consider "milking" in a chastity context. It's more of a ruined orgasm, insofar as a strong estim over time numbs the area (which is what TENS machines are designed to do, it's a form of pain-relief). So you are having an orgasm and ejaculating, but not feeling things as you normally would. Although in my experience, an estim-induced orgasm does have a shorter refractory-period.

    In the chastity context, I think of "milking" as prostate massage to drain fluids without allowing any sort of penile stimulation at all, which is distinct in my mind from "cock milking".
     
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    Depends... It is possible to trigger an orgasm via a tens electrode (or electrode pair) in the rectum pressing prostate and the other electrode (or another pair) on the head/glans of the penis (or a metal urethral sound. This I suppose could be an orgasm, a forced orgasm, or a ruined one depending on the tens setting and situation.

    What is possible but difficult, and maybe the gold standard for orgasm denial, is to stimulate the prostate to release/milking, without any orgasm (or erection) still in chastity.

    It should be possible with a single electrode on the prostate and another below it on the area behind the scrotum.

    I tried this for the first time on Tuesday (2 days ago) exactly one month since the last orgasm. Disappointingly I wasn't able to cause the milking release, which should feel a bit like sudden involuntary urination. Practice I suppose?
     
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    I've done the e-stim with electrodes on the penis in different positions. It's pleasurable and relentless but I can't spill from it, which disappoints my Wife.

    I'm guessing stimulation of the prostate is required for me, but I haven't been able to find a good probe/electrode for that.
     
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    I'm not sure that an electrode on the perineum would do what you describe. What you need is a bipolar butt plug. One electrode stimulates the anal rim, which forces it to contract. With a pulsing signal, the shape of the plug causes the contraction to pull the plug further in, and massage the prostate.

    If budget is an issue, you can make a bipolar plug out of an Aneros toy, a couple of strips of copper tape (one on either side of the toy, with one side running over the surface that contacts with the prostate), some nail varnish to seal the edges of the tape and insulate one electrode around the anal ring (the one that hits the prostate), and a couple of crocodile clips to attach the leads to the tape.

    In theory, this would be possible with the monopole plug at the prostate and a pad on the anal ring, so long as you can insulate the pad from the prostate electrode. The keys are to get the anal ring to contract, and to have a plug that's shaped to get pulled further in when it does.
     
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    Any idea what settings to use?
     
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    Interesting.. I have a bipolar plug but faffed about to only power one side which was directed to the prostate, I was trying to get as much signal through the prostate and bas little as possible elsewhere.

    I'll try the plug as you describe, but it's going to be Sept 15th (1 month) or later, so may be a while...
     
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    I have a 2B power box. I used to stim with a tens unit many many years ago and found it somewhat difficult to be forced milked from Estim. Everyone is different.
    If you are uncaged and want to be forced milked via Estim, I'd recommend conductive rubber loops.
    My basic setup is conductive rubber around dick and balls like a cockring and a loop around my glans.
    Also, while the 2B has some good pre programmed stimulations, I run my iPod through the 2B and use various Estim audio files.
    I have over a hundred files. I know which ones will edge me, making me feel helplessly gooned and I'm familiar with the ones that will extract orgasm no matter how much I may not want to cum ha.
     
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    I have used a TENS unit for decades; it is the only way I can get relief while locked in the inverted cage. The TENS device's red leads + are secured to the stainless-steel cage and the black leads are attached to the pads/ electrodes that are in contact with the little locked member. All is pressed back into the body and the cage is tightly secured. With sissy tightly bound and the TENS on, the fun begins until the helpless little sissy get relief. After relief the TENS pulsations are no longer fun, and sissy want it to stop. Too bad for sissy as she cannot reach the TENS controls.
     
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    Whatever gives a pulsating action rather than "always on". You just need to turn the signal up enough to feel the anus contract on each "pulse". A weaker signal can feel good but won't contract the muscle. If turning it up causes pain before contraction, a different frequency may work better.
     
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    I think that's how most start out. I don't remember the last time I used a TENS box; no TENS unit is even in the same league as my ET312.
     
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    I have a TENS box but it has the additional settings for muscle stim so I think it’s just a matter of finding the right setting and frequencies to get to the “ghost fuck”.
     
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    exactly right!
     
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    is it different for everyone? And is one of the ways to get the anal contractions on the anal probe to simulate being pegged?
     
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    Is what different for everyone? The electrical signals and the body's physical response to those are pretty universal, but each individual has a subjective reaction to them. Eg pain threshold, any nerve problem such as, sciatica, etc.

    Akin to pegging in that the prostate is getting physically nudged, yet different in that estim affects the muscle around the anal ring in a rather unique way. You're contracting the muscles without consciously trying to.
     
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    The real KEY is the DIY prostate electrode (the blue thing), go to a estim store and you will pay over $100 for a probe that doesn't look much different. I wandered through a DIY store looking for something I could use, and this is a magnetic door stop, to make the connection you wrap a white pad (below it) and then use a bit of heat shrink to insulate the rest of the door stop, so when you put it in, and it goes in really easy because its quite small the metal ball is right where it needs to be.

    Love the innovation aspect of this.
    Who would have thought? - A door stop for a prostate electrode!
    Looking into this already.
    What is the length of the door stop you have?
    Is it hollow, as I'm just thinking an alternative method would be to somehow have the electrode on the inside of the door stop?
     
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    The real KEY is the DIY prostate electrode (the blue thing), go to a estim store and you will pay over $100 for a probe that doesn't look much different. I wandered through a DIY store looking for something I could use, and this is a magnetic door stop, to make the connection you wrap a white pad (below it) and then use a bit of heat shrink to insulate the rest of the door stop, so when you put it in, and it goes in really easy because its quite small the metal ball is right where it needs to be.

    Love the innovation aspect of this.
    Who would have thought? - A door stop for a prostate electrode!
    Looking into this already.
    What is the length of the door stop you have?
    Is it hollow, as I'm just thinking an alternative method would be to somehow have the electrode on the inside of the door stop?[/QUOTE]

    Apologies, this was intended to be directed to cogman
     
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    Been out of country and unlocked for the last three weeks mostly but back home in a few days. I’ll measure it but I think it’s about 7cm long and the bulb is probably about 2cm in diameter.

    you probably could connect it to the inside but the heat shrink serves as a insulator so the current is delivered to the bulb inside more directly to the prostate instead of to the sphincter

    :)
     
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