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    #4351 MtnViper, Dec 9, 2022
    Mises Institute: United Kingdom Mortality Data by Age Group and Vaccination Status: Looking at Vaccine Effectiveness


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    Arguably the most important question facing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is an explanation for the unexpected excess deaths in the United States during 2021 and 2022. These excess deaths are occurring at a time when covid prevalence in the US is very low. The CDC does not seem to be interested in explaining these deaths, so the public is filling the vacuum with their own theories. One theory is that the excess deaths are due to adverse effects of the covid vaccines. The CDC has mortality data stratified by vaccination status, but it refuses to release the data to the public. This refusal only reinforces theories that covid vaccines are the culprit. The United Kingdom, however, has released mortality data stratified by age group and vaccination status for January 2021 through May 2022, though it is unclear whether it will continue to update these data. There are many ways to present these data.

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    Separation of data for each vaccination status introduces a bias in favor of vaccination, known as the immortal time bias.

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    On average, there was an additional death for roughly every twenty thousand vaccinations in the 18–39 age group. Although the best we can conclude from these data is that vaccination is associated with increased mortality in this age group, we cannot assert that vaccination caused the increase in mortality.

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    The average benefit over the period of the study can be used to estimate how many vaccinations will prevent a death. In my opinion, this number represents a better indicator of clinical significance than odds ratios.
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    Conclusion
    The risks of the covid vaccines are often comparable to the risks of getting the disease itself. This is especially true for younger people. The principle of informed consent requires healthcare providers to inform patients of the objective risks of vaccination. Older patients are more likely to exhibit net benefit from vaccination. Vaccination should be offered but not recommended to patients under the age of forty.

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    #4352 Fit To Be Tied, Dec 10, 2022
    Hospital Condemns 14 Year Old Girl To Death Over Chinese Coronavirus “Vaccine” Refusal
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    Duke University Hospital refuses to perform life-saving kidney transplant because she is not “vaccinated”
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    • Yulia Hicks was adopted from Ukraine in January 2021 by Lee and Chrissy Hicks, joining their family of 10 children - two of them also adopted;
    • The Hicks family knew that Yulia suffered from a rare degenerative kidney condition, Senior Loken Syndrome, which would require a transplant;
    • On November 11 they were told by Duke University Hospital that Yulia could not be considered for a transplant, as she is not “vaccinated” against Chinese Coronavirus;
    • The Hickses argued with the medical team, pointing out that Yulia has already contracted Chinese Coronavirus and that she has a level of natural immunity, but the doctors still refused; and
    • They are now hoping that another medical center will offer to help their family - or eventually she WILL DIE.
    The Hippocratic Oath doesn't mean anything to the sick fucks at Duke University Hospital who worship at the altar of the CDC and The Esteemed Little Elf.

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-search-medical-center-kidney-transplant.html
     
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    #4353 Her Dividend, Dec 10, 2022
    The immune systems of patients who undergo transplant surgery are artificially suppressed during recovery, to keep their bodies from rejecting the new organs. That puts unvaccinated transplant patients at "extreme risk" of severe illness if they are infected by the coronavirus, with mortality rates estimated at 20 percent to 30 percent, depending on the study,
     
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    #4354 Lazlo Toth, Dec 10, 2022
    While I disagree with the premise of these shots even being “vaccines”, you make a logical point.

    If these clot shots were legitimately “safe and effective”, I’d be inclined to agree with the doctors.

    But that’s an “IF” the size of Texas.
     
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    #4355 Her Dividend, Dec 10, 2022
    In just 1.5 pages here you guys have produced WALL TO WALL crack- pottery:


    (1) The risks of the covid vaccines are often comparable to the risks of getting the disease itself. (This is totally demented)


    (2) Myocarditis and Pericarditis (like you guy’s understand this shit)


    (3) Leftists are calling for lockdowns. (Such vivid imagination)


    (4) “the whole freaking mess” - (what world are you living in, in the West most everyone has returned to normal.)


    (5) Recently, I was given the homework assignment, "Reflect on the moral implications of scientific endeavors that directly affect your life." (Paranoia)


    (6) Bill Gates and Fauci are boogeymen. (my God, get a life)


    (7) “the far left Yahoo News” (huh?)


    (8) The shots make you more likely to die. Period. (Huh?)


    (9) The journalist-run, intelligence-linked operation that warped British pandemic policy (paranoid)


    (10) Pharmaceutical companies, and corporations who spend a lot of money on advertising, basically control the news. (Paranoid)


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    The funniest thing is you guys discussing and getting upset about “misinformation.“
     
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    #4356 L-u-c-y, Dec 10, 2022
    UK health secretary Matt Hancock now admits they had no scientific reasons to make school children wear masks for 6 hours a day, they just did it because Scotland did it and they didn't want to be seen to be doing less.

    It sums the whole shamdemic up, governments making ridiculous decisions trying to make sure they were not outdone by other governments, otherwise the media would destroy them.

    I remember when the UK government said it was going to do 80,000 PCR tests a day, then a journalist pointed out that Germany was doing 100,000 tests a day, then the UK government started racing to see how many tests a day they could do, which peaked at about 1.2 MILLION a day. It didn't matter if the tests were accurate or not (they were proved not to be in hidden camera lab footage), all that mattered was quantity over quality so the press could not say they were doing less than other countries.

    Ridiculous and unscientific. It was all done for political reasons.

    Sceptics always noticed thousands of incidents like this when lockdown lovers did not.

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    #4357 Fit To Be Tied, Dec 10, 2022
    It would indeed be nice if the Clot Shot actually prevented patients from being infected with the Chinese Coronavirus. Unfortunately it does not. It might lessen the symptoms. I’m sorry that little fact has escaped you. How many times have we heard celebrities and politicians proclaim “I’m so glad I have been vaxxed and (triple) boosted” as they have infected for the second or third time?

    Anecdotally, my cousin just spent a week visiting with me. She had a heart transplant at Cedars Sinai Hospital 2 years ago ... in the middle of the Scamdemic. Literally ... she received the gift of a new life. Cedars Sinai didn’t require a Clot Shot as a precondition for her transplant.
     
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    #4359 Dianna1395, Dec 11, 2022
    Glad to hear your cousin is doing well. :) Good news where we can get it, right?
     
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    #4360 Fit To Be Tied, Dec 11, 2022
    “My Pronouns are Prosecute / The Elf” – Twitter Owner Elon Musk to Release the Twitter Files on Chinese Coronavirus and The Esteemed Little Elf

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    On Saturday Elon Musk released the Twitter Files Part 4 reporting on the company’s discussions on the censoring and banning of United States President Donald Trump.

    Hours later Musk announced his next topic in the Twitter Files series.

    Musk is going after The Esteemed Little Elf and the Chinese Coronavirus along with the suppression and suspension of any of The Elf’s critics.

    Musk posted this last night, “My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci.”

    He then tweeted out the above photo of The Elf and The Demented One.

    When asked when he will release the Twitter files on the Coronavirus, Elon Musk replied, “Oh its coming bigtime…”

    Ladies and Gents ... Buckle Up ... We May Be In For A Rough Ride! But don’t expect to read any of it in the New York Slimes.

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    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/160189413257360588

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601886758987104256

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    #4361 MtnViper, Dec 11, 2022


    Elon Musk is grasping a tiger's tail in one hand and a bull's horn in the other, challenging the world to shut him up, now that he owns one of the largest communication platforms in the world. He also owns all the dirty laundry.

    Would like to be the fly on the wall in many of the "power centers" of the world, as they ask themselves, "How much does he know?" and "How much will he tell?"

    We are seeing their (lame) attempts at shutting him down.

    Look at the responses to Elon's tweets and you see people/bots were waiting to post comments similar to, "Nothing to see here" and "Don't waste your time." If there is nothing to be seen, why were they waiting to say there is nothing to see, within seconds of Elon's tweets.

    I'm amazed someone hasn't destroyed all the database severs at Twitter. The servers are likely spread around the world in hardened data centers, which prevents this. He must have had insiders in place to secure the data, or so we need to hope.
     
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    #4362 L-u-c-y, Dec 11, 2022
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    #4364 L-u-c-y, Dec 11, 2022

    "The Rasmussen poll of 1,000 Americans found that:

    32% were not vaccinated.

    7% of those surveyed had a major side effect.

    A 7% major side effect rate is unprecedented. We know from the V-safe data that this effectively means that the side-effect was so bad, they had to seek medical attention. If any drug had that kind of safety profile, it would be immediately pulled from the market. Would you take any drug with that kind of side-effect profile? Of course not. It’s off the charts! However, because we are told it is a safe and effective vaccine, people do what they are told despite the lack of safety. That’s how science works.

    Note that people who were killed by the vaccine were unable to participate in the survey, so the actual numbers are slightly worse.

    Rasmussen also admitted that Google censors unfavorable results! In short, they admitted that it’s worse than they are “allowed” to tell people (see their tweet). Wow."

    https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/...-million-americans-report-major-side-effects/
     
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    #4365 L-u-c-y, Dec 11, 2022
    12 MILLION PEOPLE! - Vaxxed Americans Report Major Side Effects, and Question Efficacy

     
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    #4366 MtnViper, Dec 11, 2022

    One of the benefits of owning your own tech company:

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    #4367 L-u-c-y, Dec 11, 2022
    "NothingBurger" is their favourite reply.
     
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    #4368 Lazlo Toth, Dec 12, 2022
    So much for me giving you an ounce of credit previously.....
     
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    #4369 Lazlo Toth, Dec 12, 2022
    You make a massively important point Lucy. Dead people can’t take surveys.
     
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    #4370 L-u-c-y, Dec 12, 2022
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    Over a minor virus.
     
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    #4371 Lazlo Toth, Dec 12, 2022
    So true! Such needless suffering.


    * and if I were a pun-writing porn film title generator I’d call this Planet of the Gapes.
     
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    #4372 Servus, Dec 12, 2022
    Hey dear miss Lucy, hey guys.

    I havent been posting here for a long time. I think there is not really new to talk about.

    Except the more and more negatove reportings in press about the side effects of the jabs.

    And the overmortality.

    Here in Germany it is about 9 % compared with the last year, 19 % compared to the mean value of the years 2018 to 2021 and TWENTYSIX! percent over 2018.

    We have a flu wave here right now. I think there are about 11.000.000 people ill at the moment ( from 83.000.000).
    It is influenza and a respiratory virus called RSV.

    This wave is explainable with the fanatic wearing of masks for almost three years now.

    Usually you refresh your, not so long lasting, immunity against RSV every year several times.
    Due to the lack of contact this high incidence can be explained.
    And what happens?
    The lockdowns have been ordered to releave the health care workers during corona.
    The healthbsupply crashes.
    My lady devine is a pharmacist and has to close the pharmacy, because all of the people are ill now.
    Houses for elderly people have t o be closed due to a lack of workers.
    The surgery of my hospital also crashes.

    Now it all comes back.
     
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    #4373 Lazlo Toth, Dec 12, 2022
    I really like your perspective. Your words carry a lot of weight since you haven’t been swimming in the craziness every day. You help to affirm what I believe to be true.
     
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    #4374 L-u-c-y, Dec 12, 2022
    I think it's part that and partly the dirty masks spreading viruses.
     
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