Covid-19 and Life

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    #6651 L-u-c-y, Apr 21, 2024
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    What I don't get, is how are these damn antivaxxers are still alive. Does nothing kill them?

    President Biden and CNN told us there was going to be a winter of severe death for the unvaccinated, and everyone was going to die unless they got vaccinated, but the unvaccinated are still alive.

    Most of these idiots haven't had any covid jabs at all and they are thriving. I don't get it.
     
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    so in hindsight it was bullshit
     
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    Not sure if I'm brainwashed or not, but the vaccine was dangerous to most. It may, but probably not, have actually had any benefit for some. But the literature is plentiful, that the best protection against covid, was a covid infection. And that for the vast majority of people, a covid infection was no worse than a cold. A vaccinated person is susceptible to covid over and over and over again. An unvaccinated person is not likely to get infected more than once and subsequent infections, if they do occur, are very mild.

    What this exercise has shown me is that our population is full of sheep. Lemmings, so to speak. Tell them what to do, and they will do it. Even though the people who are telling them to do it have lied repeatedly over and over again. Yet, some people refuse to become skeptical. Good for you. I, on the other hand, am a deep-down skeptical person, particularly if the people telling me something is the government. The government lies more than it tells the truth. There is no consideration for what the truth is. The only thing that matters is what the narrative is and whether it serves their ends. Truth is irrelevant. I find that abhorrent. It erodes any ability to influence. It's the old, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. And I've been fooled by the government 1000's of times. You are more likely to discern the truth by concluding the opposite of the narrative, than the narrative itself.

    So good for you for trusting the government. You must still be young.

    Perhaps I'm the lucky/rare one. I had covid very early on. It wasn't very bad but sure, I felt like shit for a few days. Never got sick again. Never freaked out and wore masks in the car, with no one else in the car, and my windows up. In fact, our entire household did the same. We never changed our routine. None of us got very sick.
     
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    Bust Myths and Learn the Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines:
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html

    Countering online vaccine misinformation in the EU/EEA:
    https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/countering-online-vaccine-misinformation-eu-eea

    "The pandemic has clearly illustrated how easily misinformation can spread online and how rapidly new narratives can emerge and evolve. Vaccine misinformation can be dangerous: it decreases confidence in vaccines and can lead to vaccine hesitancy and reduced vaccination uptake."
     
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    Early on I posted a few times in that appalling and hateful thread and was rather quickly blocked from further posts on it.
     
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    Hateful?
     
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    It's weird, kind of dystopian, that a publication by the government meant to dispell myths with facts, is itself full of misinformation. Sad really. I clicked on the link for the CDC above, "fact" upon "fact" are demonstrably false.

    The vax is not a safer way to build immunity. The caveat that they don't say is, "it is a safer way to build immunity if you have serious co-morbidities, or are immunocompromised, or are older than 70". Rather, it is a fact, that young and healthy people are much better off without the vax. This is proven.

    The ingredients in the vax are safe. This is also demonstrably false. There are known dna fragments in the mrna vax. These dna fragments are known to cause cancer. It is also known that there has never been a long term study on the safety of the mrna vax. The studies that have been done have raised concerns.

    Covid19 vax does not cause new variants. They have no ability to know this. They just don't.

    They don't contain microchips. Ok, I'll grant you this one. I don't think they do.

    Covid19 vax will not affect fertility. They don't know that. Again, they refuse to do a long term study. But there have been studies that do show an increased incidence of miscarriages after taking the vax. Ample studies to date.

    I really could go on and on. The CDC publication is misinformation at it's finest.
     
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    We imported certain Party Officers after WW2, google Operation Paperclip.
    Are you surprised Goebbel's approach has been implemented here, on both sides? People only care about winning, not reality. We need to be VERY careful about what we believe, because 99% or more want only to be blissfully ignorant...
     
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    CDC = Centers For Disinformation / Deceit (take your pick) & Confusion.

    Brings to mind Reagan’s famous quote:

    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help. "
     
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    Remember the word Control.
    Doesn't mean "eradicate" - but CONTROL.
    Control Where and When and What infects the population, to ensure constant fear and dread.

    You don't think an abusive government (they're ALL abusive, it's their nature) will suddenly be GOOD, do you? It's more an Abusive Dominant, who scars and terrorizes and abuses subs, making them weak-willed test subjects...
    Look up what we, the USA, have done - not hard to see that trusting the government is ALWAYS a bad idea. (Though it might be better than trusting enemy propaganda, E.G., Manhattan Project was NEEDED, like it or not.)
     
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    Well. Those damn anti-vaxxers. Such a mess that they are still there. :)
    It is interesting that from 2020 the death rate, the decline and massive increase in turbo cancer as well as heart attacks and much more will not be linked to the vaccination.
    Rows of athletes fall for everything, no problem. Really now?
     
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    It's only true until something proves it wrong, which usually happens.
     
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    7FAD4FAF-912F-4838-91E3-7D28441E26FF.jpeg

    OK …. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND SOME OF THAT GOOD OLD “TRUE SCIENCE”

    How About This For Starters?

    Study Finds ‘Significant Increase’ in Cancer Mortality After Mass Vaccination With 3rd Chinese Coronavirus Dose

    Researchers observed “statistically significant increases” in mortality rates of all cancers, especially estrogen-related cancers, following mass vaccination with the third mRNA Chinese Coronavirus vaccine, according to a recent paper.

    The peer-reviewed study, published on April 8 in Cureus, evaluated the impact of the Chinese Coronavirus plandemc on age-adjusted mortality rates for 20 different types of cancer in Japan using official statistics on death, SARS-CoV-2 infections, and vaccination rates. The researchers made a startling discovery: There were no excess cancer deaths in Japan during the first year of the plandemic, but they observed a rise in cancer mortality coinciding with mass vaccination.

    See:
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/significant-increase-in-cancer-mortality-after-mass-vaccination-with-3rd-covid-dose-study-5630488


    https://www.cureus.com/articles/196...dose-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-in-japan#!/

     
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    Yeah, the regime is ignoring that one. The way the gaslighting manual says it works, is to prop up any study that supports your claim, never ever even look for any descrepencies, pay doctors to agree with your desired outcome, and if they don't, make sure they are fired or never get another grant, and above all, ignore any competing info. If possible, discredit the info. Ways to discredit it, say, well, we didn't fund it, or those folks aren't credible. The only credible researches are those that take money from the government and are going to loose that funding if they ever disagree. See how easy it is. And if things work as planned, folks will never question it.
     
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    #6667 L-u-c-y, Apr 23, 2024
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    Let's have a look at "the science"....

    23rd April 2024
    Scientific American has published a piece claiming that “misinformation,” such as the notion that there are only two sexes, is “being used against transgender people” and in order to target “gender-affirming medical care.”

    The piece asserts that “Many of the arguments against trans rights center on the idea that transness itself is not legitimate—that there are just two sexes, period.”

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/...cialflow&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter


    I wonder if this one will come true or not?

    10th April 2024
    U.N. climate chief says two years to save the planet

    https://www.reuters.com/world/un-cl...tiell, Executive Secretary of,, now," he said.

    Let's add it to all the other times that have come and gone when they said there are only X number of years to save the planet.

    It's funny how the gut instincts of normal working class people are usually more accurate than the paid for $cience.
     
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    The climate cultists have cried wolf about the ice caps melting, polar bears becoming extinct, and the coastal cities of the world becoming inundated for decades, yet here we are. We are supposed to believe that a gas that is 0.04 % of our atmosphere, and cannot fall below 0.03% or all plants die, is the cause of global warming and must be captured and piped for hundreds of miles and buried safely. And that we much very heavily restrict carbon, Spoiler alert, morons WE are carbon Beings. ALL Life on this planet is carbon based. What the globalists are telling you (morons) is that all of us need to die. As Einstein said, the only two things that are infinite are the universe and human stupidity, and he wasn't that sure about the universe.
    “You can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to fight your way out of it. Don’t waste your time giving explanations. Our friends do not need them; your enemies will not believe them; and idiots cannot understand them.” ~ Old Adage
    “Just look at us. Everything is backwards. Everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality, and governments destroy freedom.” ~ Michael Ellner (witness the destructive forces of fascism)
     
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    Idiots don't die out. There are always new ones. The tragic thing is that there are so many of them on this sphere.
     
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    After the 9/11 FF, DHS hired Marcus Wolfe as a consultant. His previous job was head of the Stasi, the East German secret police. I'll never forget coming back into Dulles airport in DC during that period, and seeing "if you see something, say something " signs posted all around, That was straight out of the Stasi slogans. In two years after his work was finished, he was died.
     
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    MAYBE WE CAN TRUST THE CDC ON THIS ONE?
    Whadda You Think:

    CDC Study Finds
    Chinese Coronavirus Vaccine Protection Among Children Plummets Within Months

    Children who received an original Chinese Coronavirus vaccine had little protection against hospitalization just months after vaccination, according to a new study from the U.S. Centers for Disinformation and Confusion (CDC) in a paper published on April 18 in CDC’s weekly digest.

    The study covered children who received two or more doses of the original Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna Chinese Coronavirus vaccines from Dec. 19, 2021, through Oct. 29, 2023.


    See:
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/covid-19-vaccine-protection-among-children-plummets-within-months-cdc-study-5635297

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7315a2.htm


     
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    Trust the CDC and Fauci? Of course. It's dead certain.
     
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    Mad Cow in humans, aka, Cruetzfeldt-Jacob Disease, (CJD), or spongiform encephalopathy, is a terrible disease. At the risk of oversimplifying the condition, it’s caused by misfolded proteins in the brain called prions. Basically, the brain ends up being filled with tiny holes resembling a sponge.

    I had a good friend die of the condition. It literally came out of nowhere. He was dead in about 3 months. No cure. No treatment.

    Since mRNA is deliberately designed to fuck with the proteins in your body, it wouldn’t surprise me at all that this is yet another side effect.
     
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    We need to quit calling these side effects. I just say effects, because nothing I have read or heard makes me inclined to think this myriad of deadly problems post jab weren't the very reason for giving the jabs. When you knowingly destroy the human immune system, and hijack our very DNA, then I see no way they could not have known the havoc it would create for those who injected these bioweapons.
     
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