Nocturnal erection - How much pain is too much pain

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    I can wear a larger size ring which would bring no pain whatsoever but risking ball escaping the cage during daytime, or a smaller size ring which fits at daytime but brings absolutely hell at night.

    So the question is this - how much pain is too much pain?

    My current unbearable pain comes from the centre of the bottom of the ring. There is a lot of redness after a night in the cage, but they go away if I unlock myself for a few hours. If I try to leave it on and tough it out, the pain just never goes away even with plenty of lubes/lotions and stretching the scrotum, and eventually the redness would become a bloody spot.
     
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    Do you wear a plastic cage? Reason I ask is because I used to have the same thing when I wore a plastic cage. Since I got a metal one that isn't totally enclosed it's not been a problem and I sleep right through.
     
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    Go for PA cage and sleep very well
     
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    Yes I do have a plastic cage, but as I mentioned if the ring size is a wee bit larger, there is no issue at all. Most of the pain is coming from the pressure from the underside of the cage, which pushes the balls to the ring. I don’t suppose meta cages would be any different if the ring size is similar (or maybe there’s other factors in play?).

    I know tons of people have experienced the nocturnal erection pain. Just wanted to know how and when they decide that pain is too much.
     
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    I found that the issue is that when I got hard in my sleep there was nowhere for my penis to go, meaning the cage was pushed away from my body and put a load of pressure on the balls as the ring can't move.

    My metal cage has gaps which allows my penis to expand without pushing the cage away from my body.

    I now wear a smaller cage with a smaller ring with no issues.
     
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    I bought an elastic strap a few days ago. Tried it for the last 3 nights but I feel it’s not helping much (or at all). When I wake up with pain, the whole cage is still fixated to the body and not pushed away, but the pain is still excruciating.

    I know some people said if you take a walk, have a piss, apply some lotions, it will eventually go away, but it doesn’t look to be the case for me. The pain only goes away if I unlock the cage for about 20 minutes and put it back on.
     
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    How about having a daytime cage and a nighttime cage? (And ring)
     
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    I have faced this same problem with every off the shelf cage we have purchased. I now have 2 custom cages that are sized perfectly and the issue has gone away. After years of adjustments, I have leaned to go with a slightly larger ring and a narrower gap. If your wearing plastic, look at the Kink 3D. We have the N wide with the XD ring that is one size over my old ring size. The boys can’t escape due to the narrow gap and it’s extremely comfortable. If your going with metal and don’t mind spending a few extra dollars, look at the Red Chilli sissy cage. Same scenario, slightly larger ring with a narrow gap. You can go as short as you wish, but allow a little extra width in the cage. It’s worth noting, Miss A really likes the look of the Kink 3D cage, which has resulted in much more frequent teasing and play while caged…and longer periods between releases.
     
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    The ball burn comes from the base ring binding use a little Vaseline, or lidocaine cream when I first started getting used to wearing a cage the ball burn was bad.
    It took me about 2 months to go 24-7, and occasionally I still get the burn
     
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    I am on Kink3d actually. Currently on N Cage with 2XD ring. 3XD ring is a bit too big for me and the balls can escape easily. 2XD is my current ring and the burn at night time is unbearable (what’s worse is that my ball still managed to escape the ring once).

    I’ve ordered an N Wide cage. Hopefully I can use that with 3XD ring, which would achieve what you mentioned there - a larger base ring with a smaller gap.
     
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    That sort of defeats the purpose of 24/7 lockup ideology :)
    I’m sticking with the smaller ring for now until I get a slightly wider cage. Hopefully either the new cage will sort out the issue, or the body will slowly adapt to the cage.
     
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    2 months sounds a lot longer than I am hoping for!
     
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    Everyone is different, some adjust quicker than others, seriously the lidocaine cream helped me a lot.
    Maybe try a metal cage, regular round base ring to me seems to be most comfortable
     
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    A little dab of Aquaphor behind the scrimmage for a few days will help with any remaining discomfort
     
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    Behind the scrotum…
     
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    I am in a somewhat similar position. I have a HT v4 that I love but after a few days the pain on the back side of my right testicle becomes too intense. It becomes too tight to put any cream or lotion between the testicle and the ring. That's with using the biggest ring they have. I'm working on sizing so I can get a custom metal cage. I heard that might work better.
     
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    Cages that allow partial erections will routinely cause problems such as Ackwon's. Although counterintuitive in appearance, smaller cages offer an effective solution.
     
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    My cage is snub enough and does not allow the penis to grow inside the cage whatsoever. The pain is coming from the bottom of the scrotum when the balls get bigger during nocturnal erection and the gap between the cage and ring is a bit small. My only problem is that if I use a bigger ring, the gap isn’t small enough and balls will escape during cold weather like what we currently have at the moment.
     
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    I have no experience with plastic cages, went right into steel. Ultimately ending up in a smaller length cage, I originally tried a tighter ball ring but found that caused pain, went up to the next size but being steel, I was able to close the ball gap by using a bench vise and tapping the locking post down just a bit.
    No more issues, I also use a dab of this kee lotion around the ring at bedtime.
    The only time an attempted erection gets me now is if drink too many fluids too close to bed. Which isn’t bad considering I also take daily Cialis in case my Wife would like to use her property.
    I’m sure your body will adapt, hopefully soon for your sake!
     
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    Similar experience here, I used to take a very very low dose of Cyproterone acetate which will eliminate night time erections without impacting your ability to get hard when you want too. I no longer take it though because I don't need to.

    Perhaps a bit of a function of age (57) as well, but these days with a smaller enclosed steel cage like those above I wake up firm often, but rarely in pain any more. My body knows not to go into a full blown boner and gets a early warning not to try from the small cage. I found like those above once the erection establishes itself it makes it harder (forgive the pun) to go down.

    My looker2 was actually the same size as the steelheart but the looker 2 would allow the flesh to explode through the bars and establish itself, also making it less secure because you could grasp and squeeze it through the bars. The steel heart offers no such opportunity for expansion or playing. Far far more comfortable, secure, actually its a perfect cage in my view with the tether.

    Even a full blown erection attempt you can barely see it with my smaller cage.
     
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    Just a quick update - I removed the elastic strap last night and put on a band-aid at the bottom of the scrotum where the redness spot was. This morning I woke up with no pain at all. It appears that the elastic strap was not doing me any favour by keeping the cage close to the body (which I presume made the bottom of the scrotum even tighter).
     
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    @cogman - I'm curious how long your cage is from ring to end. I can't tell from your picture.
     
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    Only you can answer that.
    I would advise that any time you have lot of pain would if you are sensible be worth investigating until you learn to tell the difference between something causing discomfort and damage

    and if you are not sensible there's no point me saying any thing at all
     
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    You mentioned the rings you wear, but what are the actual sizes of the rings, what are they in MM? Maybe get a custom ring made in between them?
     
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    44.5mm ring + 8mm gap (between ring and cage) is the one that was causing trouble.

    My new cage just arrived a few minutes ago, which is a bit wider than my last one. Now I can use the 47.6mm ring with this cage and the gap is still 8mm. It stretches the balls a bit further from the body but I feel it’s much more comfortable (although I am in this cage for just a few minutes).

    I’ll see how it goes. I am worried the balls are still going to escape at some point because the gap is still 8mm. If that happens, I would have to switch back to the 44.5mm ring.
     
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