Attracting Masculinist Allies to Chastity?

Dude, we're just silly monkeys who happen to wear clothes. Stop taking this so seriously. He is not your "opponent". He really is not your opponent. He's not your enemy. He's not your foil.

You only have one man standing in your way, and it's not any of the rest of us here. The only man actually causing you grief is the one inside your own head. (I suffer from the same, for what it's worth.)

Yes, this happens. No, it's not right. No, it's not fair. Is it truly important? No, but that doesn't make it ok, either.

Truly horrible things do happen to men. Men whom I dearly care for have been assaulted. Beaten. Even raped. It's horrible. And it's life changing for them. (Sometimes, life ruining. Even to point of suicide. I have lived long enough now to have lost way too many dear friends to preventable causes, and I try to be a true and loving friend to my friends, so that maybe one of them will be able to lean on me some day when they are going through their own rough patch.)

None of us is downplaying the seriousness of the problems that men deal with. You can support others who face their own challenges without somehow giving up your own right to having enormous challenges in your life.

Whatever you are watching, listening to, and reading, please take a break from it. It's poisoning your mind. The manner in which it oozes from your pores is not attractive, and it's making it impossible for others to see your attractive traits. You are on a path to loneliness and despair; please come back ...

I wish you could see what a lot of other people here see. Please do not take offense, because we may be the mirror you need to see to start working on yourself.

Best wishes.

 

well the student can only be as good as the teacher

 

Please don't assume this. There are many wonderful and good people out there, who truly care about others. Yes, most of the time most of us can barely hold our own pathetic lives together, and we run out of the energy that we need to be gracious and helpful to others, but I've been keeping score for a long time now, and I continue to see the actual good in most people.

Some day, feminism will hopefully disappear. Because hopefully, some day, women will not longer have to fight for equal rights, and the word will no longer have a meaning that makes sense.

Hopefully, we will continue to make progress on restorative justice for everyone. I live on the other side of the pond, in a relatively violent society, and one in which our leaders attempt to solve every problem with more prisons, which in turn seem to only breed more violence. I really don't know what the answers are, but I'm pretty sure we have it all wrong here. I have friends whose mission in life is to work (as volunteers) with many of these violent offenders, to help them turn their lives around. It's inspiring, but it's also hard and tedious and often fails.

But that is the story of life: It's often hard and tedious and full of failures. But that's not the conclusion of the story; that's just what makes the plot so interesting.

 

We have a safe word, also never needed one. A seat belt isn’t there for when everything is going great . Just a safety net

 

My 2 cents, which is over priced, you are over thinking this.

I can tell by your vocabulary and verse, you are trying diligently to exude intelligence. More power to ya. It truly isn’t that complicated. If you enjoy the sexual power reversal and don’t want anything said or done to be brought up in normal life…agree to that with her first. That’s it. You get to keep your man card intact, and stop whenever you want. Most that are into this actually want more and not less submission…but hey, nobody has the same dynamic and certainly no one is wrong for doing what is right for them.

I have not even heard of masculinism. The world pretty much already goes that way, Feminism is simply the desire to be equal to, not greater than.

 

Oh I had no idea masculinism was from that guy I’ve seen on tv and the internet. I’ve heard these kind of statements.

I truly hope you find happiness somewhere. I will not engage in debate on your core beliefs as neither side will be enlightened further. I leave you, your thread, your posts with every one feeling well and without malice.

Good day

 

Ahh nothing quite so self-affirming as being well-read with the complete and thorough works of yourself . Good show.

that’s just me playfully teasing you by the way, that’s not me ‘confirming feminist dismissal of male issues’ I subscribe to no such ideal.

This isn’t the bold or honorable statement you may or may not believe it to be ( although I anticipate you telling me in ~200 words how it actually is something completely different, so let’s hear it)

also , let’s not suggest that I am anything approaching a feminist. I find that overgeneralizing what something COULD imply is self-defeating and not productive.

feminism arose primarily from half of the human race demanding to be treated with dignity and respect with the same rights and privileges as the other half enjoyed. I would agree that when things veer into territory antithetical to providing common humane decency to all fellow humans regardless of bits and bobs that’s when justifiable opposition arises , rightfully so.

Men on the other hand have many issues that I believe have been of their own making and systematically encouraged to be repressed in order to maintain some delusion of ….”hetero-normative” standards .

Ex. —You have feelings? You get emotional and cry? You react a certain way to [x,y,z] ?
“Suck it up , ‘be a man’, be strong and push through….stop being such a baby! What are you, a little bitch? Dude what’s your problem— why don’t you go pack some more wet sand into your gaping mangina.” Etc etc etc.

this is the type of common conditioning that
has to be eliminated if the real spectrum of male-related issues are ever to be addressed in a healthy and constructive manner. ‘Being a man’ isn’t just one thing or the next, the essence of which can mean many things to many people.

Of course you have the more modern extreme absolutism when it comes to polar opposite sides of the spectrum “men are ignorant pigs” v. “women are
to be seen as objects , not to be taken seriously”

my only belief is that generally speaking , large amounts of average everyday people are far less interested in the perspective and nuance that conversation or debate can provide in the interest of enriching each other as much as they are just waiting for their turn to speak whatever they wished to say without thoughtfully considering an opposing perspective.

for example, I can also argue that despite my own personal beliefs , I don’t believe that anything I hold as true or that anyone else holds similarly is universally OBJECTIVELY true . The constraints and limitations of language and methods/modes of communication makes dissemination of objective truth impossible . You can state an “objective fact” to an audience of ANY size and what is heard and received will vary wildly according to the receivers cognitive biases, socioeconomic standing, and life experience that could be pressed in argument with or without evidence as a ‘counter-narrative’… but I digress.

So, if you do in fact represent the bleeding edge of masculinist theory , is this not an incredible burden to carry — and to what end? I’m not trying to be patronizing whatsoever , it’s an honest question .

 

Someone here needs to learn the difference between being out spoken and actually having knowledge. Knowing big words does not take any great deal of knowledge and no wisdom at all. Having the empathy to understand how those words affect others and what effect they have on society takes knowledge and wisdom.
Without both you are like a one handed guitar player.

 

Ahh. Ignorance within your premise, front and center. And if not ignorance, you sound like the philosophical equivalent of a self-assigned IP address…. hmm…. Connected to the network but no internet access…. Hmmm….guess I’ll consult myself for the answer!

Women’s suffrage doesn’t count? I would just invite you to look no further than religion … to see how positively ignorant this statement is.

…. Yeah a can of worms that will rot and fester on the unimpressive hill where you stand to remain alone on.

Oh, what about Implemented genital mutilation of young females in some cultures so that they might be relieved of ever being tempted into feeling sexual pleasure? Just another feminist driven narrative to unfairly assign blame of crimes against humanity to men?

Good luck disseminating this “good information “ but I’ll stop taking this obvious troll bait . Take care!

 

Thanks for describing me

 

Who is "they"?

 

Don't mind me I did bring popcorn though lol

 

Meh, who needs orgasm denial when one has such massive capacity mental masturbation.

It's like Putin has weaponised pontification.

 

Feels like this thread should be in off-topic at this point - I don't think there has been reference to chastity since the prior page.