Why are many who stick with chastity from out of the U.S., most notably the UK?

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    I have noticed over the years that certain areas of the world are into one fetish more than other countries. I have worked in the UK for a few years and also Germany and the Netherlands. Chastity and spanking, caning seem very popular in the UK, along with their find cuisine. :) Germany had TV ads all night long about BDSM stuff. Very popular there. The Netherlands I am not to sure of since I did not spend as much time there. On my first flight there on a local airline, the magazine in the seat back in front of me had ads for boys for men and other gay sex. Do not know if that is their thing but prostitution and Marijuana were legal. I had an office in Hong Kong and Italy too so I spent a week a month in both places for most of the year. HK seemed to be mostly into female submission, not so much male. Japan seemed into a lot of D/s with both men and women. HK was mostly just into sex with escorts who would do anything the male wanted. Did not see too much evidence of fetish play other than submissive women. Italy was mostly male dominated sex. The forceful alpha male and did not pick up on any particular fetish.

    These are just my personal impressions but I think chastity is more popular in the UK than other places. It does not have the population of the US but I think those into chastity in the UK tend to stick with it more. Here in the USA we are bombarded with a lot of cuckold and wife sharing sex so that is very big right now. Guys want their wives to have sex with other guys for their husband's amusement. Hey, I tried it once and then decided that it was better to be the bull than the cuckold.

    A lot of the names I remember from a few years ago on this forum when I was lurking, are from the UK. Are my impressions correct? I was in heaven in Germany because I was into extreme BDSM. My only experience in the UK was a fantasy come true. Like in a movie, I met an older and sophisticated married women who invited me into her first class train compartment. She was leaving her husband who she caught with a younger woman. She was headed to her flat in London and invited me to dinner at the Grosvenor hotel. I went and then ended up in her flat where she got her revenge on her husband all night long. She was the most sophisticated and best dressed woman I have ever known. Upper class lady. I loved London because I stayed in a company flat close to the Royal Horseguard. Had a maid and Gourmet chief for dinner. The previous owner was an MP. I lived like royalty and loved having real chinaware for my morning coffee instead of styrofoam cups. I had a fireplace in my office and for lunch the executives had a chef prepare a few dishes and we could drink beer or wine. That is living. Of course their salaries were very low compared to my US salary and the cost for a flat was very high, but the people mostly spoke english except in Wales where I had to have someone to translate. Got to spend time in the Isle of Mann and said hello to the fairies after watching the TT motorcycle races. I was consulting to the English government and then did the same in Scotland where all they did was go from pub to pub. Also did some consulting in Ireland which I also liked since I am a meat and potatoes kind of guy and my wife is half Irish. I got to speak at the same session of MPs as Clive Sinclair who was a force in getting England involved in high technology. As a former computer science major, he was one of my idles and I was a co speaker with him. One of the highlights of my life.

    Sorry for going down English memory lane but this brought so many memories back that I had forgotten. So for all you British people out there, is chastity very big in the UK like cuckolding is in the US.
     
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    There was a thread on this subject somewhere.

    Not sure if it's from the corporal punishment in grade school back in the day or just the repressed nature of always being proper.

    I did notice over the years here, that many of the ones that stuck around were from the U.K. Also on a separate similar note...I believe Texas seems to embrace chastity more than the other states in the USA.
     
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    You could be right about Texas. I lived in Houston at the beginning of my Marriage. So now I know where I caught the Chastity virus. Should have worn a condom. :) Thanks for the info.
     
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    Interesting topic.

    The UK does seem to have a lot of folks involved in chastity and femdom.

    Perhaps the apparent stiffness of English society encourages it.

    I say, old chap, bloody good that!
     
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    This is an interesting topic. I wasn't active in the mansion when there was an earlier thread on it. I wonder if the difference has anything to do with human rights issues. Years ago in schools students were disaplined with a cane or the strap, myself included. I can remember back in the 70's when I recieced the strap in school. Now now as area her your not allowed to strike a student or hardly even touch them. As Vinny said when he lived in Texas. I've never lived in the United States but I do know that laws differ from state to state as laws differ greatly from country to country. I'm sure the laws in the UK are much different than the are in Canada. This would make an interesting survey. One more thing my parents are of Disendants of Germany. So maybe that's why a like to have my bum spanked ?
     
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    Great question, it sounds like you had a wonderful old time in Europe as well as the UK and had probably the best time on British Rail that i've ever heard of as it hasn't got a very good reputation!. As a new member, I can only add from my limited point of view, I think us Brits can be reserved and stiff upper lipped at times in public, so conversely not being able to get stiff somewhere else seems appropriate! :). also it could be to do with our education and media, Schools were harsh and dower places with corporal punishment meated out for small infractions until the mid 80's when it was started to be phased out. I'm sure a lot of us also grew up watching TV and films like "up the chastity belt" and The Carry on films, which where rude "end of the pier" innuendo with saucy mild sexual humour. but we also had the strict Governess type of image on our screens, great period dramas with corseted ladies ruling the home and bossing about the household staff! that sort of programming certainly go my attention at a formative age that's for sure!

    There was also the sexual revolution in the late 60's that happen both in the US and UK as well as the rest of Europe which meant that some women became more empowered with there own sexual liberation so they could take what they deserve and want and take charge, so maybe this then helped show us men who are interested in Chastity and BDSM etc. that a strong confidant woman is a sight to behold and to kneel before! or alternatively we are just crazy islanders cut off from the rest of the continent? just a thought :p
     
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    Speaking from being a member of an international Live Adult Cam web site now for approximately 7 years and OWNED and met Mistress Sonia at this site Adult site for almost 5 years now i've personally read about, experienced and witnessed how vastly different male cultures express themselves with Women across the entire globe.

    The East, Europeans and so forth males have absolutely no respect or understanding of what Females desires or needs are. It is seriously CAVE MAN LIKE and how males disrespect, obnoxiously demand and deeply believe they are entitled to anything they want. The concept of equality has not even been begun or bread into their cultures EVEN yet let alone having having any REAL comprehension of the fact that Females ARE NATURALLY SUPERIOR!

    The USA and UK are so much more mentally and culturally advanced then the rest of the world is the reason.

    Just my person opinion.
     
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    If you want to have fun take a British man to a German sauna. The repressed British sexuality freaks out at such blatant nudity.

    The British gutter press loves titillating the public with stories of naughty members of Parliament wearing diapers and being spanked by dubious nannies. From the Profumo Affair to Cameron allegedly shagging a pigs head, it is constant.

    I was caned at school and now I am spanked by my Mistress. Full circle.
     
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    Dear Vinny,

    although I very much enjoy your wise contributions in general, I think this evaluation of yours in this thread lacks any objective backing, although it might walk on a subjective commonly concieved ground, which does however not make it necessarily true, even if there might be some truth behind it. But as I understand your points, they are based on your observations, which as true as they for sure are, as you experienced all of this, lack any measure of general statistical significance - as you just came in touch with the few ones you met within any country to draw your stated general conclusions, which might be too few to make any general statement about any nation. That of course does not proove that your observations are wrong, however they might be a topic for debate at least.

    To my knowledge, the first ever granted patent for a male chastity device was given to a native US citizen: John Harvey Kellogg. So I think that the use of masturbation control and chastity devices might be also very well-known and from early-on practized inside the US, where also AL Enterprises, the company that introduced CB2000, The Curve, CB3000 and CB6000 as first really useable mainstream and mass-made and -sold male chastity devices, was founded and based to my knowledge. It would be interesting to know how many devices they sold to which country, to make an international statistic about that, even if no-one could answer the question how many of them then also got to any meaningful use of course - as I found them quite impractible myself. So the point is: No-one can really know what really goes on inside another country or even the own neighbourhood, especially from purely subjective observations from use of Fetlife or other platforms, as there are also other parameters involved, like access to and general use of the internet itself. At the end I think it all will depend on the individuals being involved, including their experiences in life, or what they might be drawn to, either intentionally or emotionally or, which might be the most important, subconsciously.

    And mentioning subconscious reasons for being drawn to chastity or any other fetish, I remember that the great psycho-analytic Freud had a clear opinion that it is all concieved from early childhood. And I just very recently participated a seminar on diaper-free upraising of a new-born, where the leading midwife honestly regarded diapers as chastity belts for a baby. Background for it being that any new-born baby actually really knows how to hold in in her opinion, although the official medical science has a very different opinion about that. But the actual problem is of course that a new-born cannot really articulate other than giving subtle signs which parents need to learn if given opportunity to do so, including the necessary time and of course circumstances, to be able to watch after their baby themselves for the first one or better two years, instead of giving it away to some strangers or day nursery while they have to manage to go through life financially as a family without too many problems, thereby being stuck on their jobs.

    But diapers might only be one aspect. There are many other important parameters to consider with different nations, or even within one single nation. They have different cultures, educations systems, teachings of history (and thereby inducing feelings of inferiority or guilt in some cases, which is of course nonsense, but happens), believe or religious systems (either officially or inofficially, or either strictly followed or not), political systems, media they can access, which latter might even be manipulative.

    And with your background, Vinny, did you by working in other countries regularly for some time in your position really got connected to the broad mainstream culture and the people's real background there, to fully understand their real and very reasonings and actions or even cause? I think that your experiences are very real - but to draw general conclusions, I doubt that the basis for doing so is really sufficient, even if your conclusions give very good food for thought, considering the aspects and parameters I mentioned, the latter maybe subconsciously influencing you on your stated opinion, which at the end also could turn out to be fully correct, but thereby leading to implications and consequences beyond any fetish considering the added parameters, maybe even an awakening for the better - although I have no doubt that even then chastity devices might be quite useful, however the use of them then is practiced - hopefully for the joy and improvement of all involved, I at least hope.

    So do not get me wrong: Although it might seem that I oppose you by this contribution, I just want to challenge your statements for better insight, as I feel in part similar regarding your observations, but only wanted to add about maybe even important background aspects to consider regarding the actual global situation.

    Chaste regards,
    Keuschling
     
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    You are certainly well travelled Vinny!

    There certainly seems to be a bias towards corporal punishment in UK kinky culture, and enemas and diapering in US kinky culture.
     
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