What is the end goal of online chastity?

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    This is all very true! And i think that, along with the banning of dickpic avatars is by far her finest hour!

    My profiles a little funny, but i have been floating around these forums in some capacity since the first few years it was open, maybe around 2010 was the time i first found it when Mistress Watchful (now Mistress Amorite sp?) was running the show and documenting her crazy poly life. Oh and alterboy was also a great source of stories and reviews of belts and all sorts of stuff. I think some of the earliest Neo Steel belt reviews where on that site for example.

    Something to consider is that there's a bit of a normalcy bias where people adapt to the changes around them and kind of forget how things where, especially back then. Youtube had only been around for a few years and it wasn't until maybe around 2012 that streaming was even an option for most people, without needing some crazy lottery on where your house was located to make video calls.

    I think at this point if you're engaging with someone who is going to be a potential play partner or a mistress, you should at least be able to video call them and converse with them first. Something that just wasn't that common back then.

    I think if you get tricked today, you're an absolute bafoon
     
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    Ms Lucy,
    I came here after I separated with my Mistress.
    in the hope that I would find that I would find someone to help me stay locked until I find a new Mistress locally.
    it's difficult to muster the willpower to stay locked all the time on your own.
    I did find someone to help so I am very grateful of the site.
     
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    I don't really know, to be honest. I don't know how it would benefit you, if you kept me locked :/
    I think for a lot of people it's just the online version of wearing a collar lol
    I think the end goal (at least for me, being a bit selfish here ;)) would be to be locked so i could be the best sub/slave/servant I could ever be, even if that meant forever. But again, apart from being a "better" servant, then I don't know how it would benefit you at all, as you said, there's only so much I can do online :)
     
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    Your post got me thinking about what I'd be doing in regards to chastity if I wasn't married, and I still stand by my first post in this thread...

    So at the very least, I can empathize with those who self-lock seeing as I'd probably be one of them if I was single. But at the same time, I probably wouldn't kid myself into thinking that I could be of any benefit to an online domme who doesn't charge for keyholding services.
     
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    First thing I do when interacting with someone new online is do an image search from tin eye and google. Sometimes you get results that show an image on dozens and dozens of other sites. I always wondered how that even happens or who those people are. I had no idea “ewhoring” was a thing and that people sell massive image packs to others for that purpose. It makes sense and is not surprising actually but I had just never thought about it. Thanks for the eye opener. Now I’m inclined to expose everyone of those I encounter.

    One thing I guess I am still not clear about is aside from catfishing someone, what’s the actual scam? That site has people claiming they generate hundreds of dollars a day but how?
     
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    I expect they are offering sexual things for money, webcamming, naked photos, domination, humiliation, keyholding etc. Then as soon as they get the money they block the sender. I've heard a lot of stories of this from members of this site and fetlife.
     
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    Another unusual aspect of online keyholding...

    In the rest of the world, online and real life, it's not that easy for a male to get a woman interested in his penis, but if it's locked they expect women to faint with excitement, like they are offering some once in a lifetime amazing opportunity.

    It's just a little penis, and a little penis of a stranger.
     
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    Pure poetry. Lol
     
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    It's tough to come _up_ with too many great, useful things that are truly helpful from a distance. But you're certainly doing the world a public service. Maybe you can write him off as a deduction on your taxes?
     
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    I see an online relationship as a pale simulacrum for a real-life one - when you can't be with the one you serve serve the one you're emailing. :)
     
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    #86 L-u-c-y, Apr 19, 2020
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    Bow how do they serve?
     
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    @L-u-c-y - they don't. They play serve. :) For both sides involved it's the perfect scenario - pretend you're doing things you probably never would in real life.
     
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    I find his sexual frustration both arousing and empowering. And I enjoy having a devoted sub to chat with.
     
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    @L-u-c-y, A possible benefit to you is that an on-line locked boy feel it only right that he send you a gift for having been taught male selflessness and awareness.
     
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    I hold the keys for a couple of 'girls' online.

    Our goal is to better prepare them to be in service to me as housemaids when they can visit.
     
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    Dear Lucy,

    What do you want? On-line KH can not be physical so you need to address your desires and articulate them to submissive men. You are interested in female superiority and chastity is a wonderful way to control men, sissies, gurls.

    Perhaps, you could require your subs to send photos everyday showing them doing things that you have demanded. I leave it up to your imagination as to the requirements.

    Good luck,

    Lisa
     
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    @Lucy. It's an interesting question. It seems that the main benefit would be holding power over the other person. If that was benefit enough. I've also found, that those that I did chat with online for some time, there was a mental or intellectual connection. But I don't know if that would qualify as a benefit. And I would image that would be hard to attain when holding more than a handful of keys.
     
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    This won't work for long; modern AI techniques could likely generate these packs endlessly. https://www.thispersondoesnotexist.com/
     
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    I am blessedly locked right now thanks to a lover who I used to see a lot of, but who sadly now lives 5000 miles away. She enjoys seeing how it makes me suffer because of the connection we already have.
     
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    I am guessing the person seeking the keyholder isn't looking at it from the keyholder's point of view (just like real life people can't see something aside from their perspective). Maybe the hope is they will meet that one in a million person who enjoys holding key online? Maybe they feel it is safer than trying to do in real life because of the risk to reputation etc if it ever got out??
     
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    I think the end goals for keyholders are clear as old as human nature:
    -females want to control fertility, so this is for couples (so not your case)
    -females want to protect from cheating - so this is for traveling couples (again not your case)
    -several young females have narcissistic nature to feed and no real lust - this works online (again seems not to be your case as you seem to be humble and reasonable at least in 'public' in communication)
    -most young females want resources, and this works for paid key-holding (here I don't know what is actual status - it can be run strictly commercially, or accepting male nature for bringing random gifts like birds)
    -there is also tease&gambling scenario (who gives up first, loses etc) but again what a key-holder gets from key-holding, is an INTEREST IN MAINTAINING INTERACTION.

    What key-holding can provide you, Miss Lucy, is certainty that a given male will try to maintain contact with you. This is the essence. But even this certainty is vague as locks can be picked (at current level of technology you use), photos cheated, and the general slave farm management is not scaling up automatically when using mechanical method. I am afraid you would get hard time keeping the interest of those men using technology the way you use it if it was the only factor, and you were a crocodile.

    What you might get from this, Miss Lucy, is to get a pool of males to choose for a partner, what they are secretly dreaming of, most of them know they would not qualify anyway, but like to feed their illusion. In this scenario, it works no differently than any meeting in a club - a group of maybe-interesting males accompanied by a large group of not so interesting males - this is probably the best and the worst you can get from it.

    What is sad that since the beginning the whole play revolves around male penis - therefore since the very beginning, if left as the only method of interaction, it reduces mutual interaction to male penis which is by definition a part of male body. So entire play if not accompanied by other activities, is strictly male-centric. It is a woman's role to control male sexuality and extend that control into other activities at her will - this is FLR, but in fact was always taking place for humans to some extent. Therefore it is not slave's job to state what a woman might want from him as it depends on the role the woman sees for him.

    Therefore, you decide the end goal - because you lead this evolution of interaction, not the male.
    Classic approach was to maintain a pool of interested males as they create a certain critical mass that might attract valuable males. How it will work here - I don't know. Might be a disaster.
     
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    Personally, I think it's ridiculous and have dabbled in chastity play for many years prior to my current arrangement.

    Firstly, a lot of devices are child's play to escape from, so the idea of surrendering the key is surface deep at best. In other words, and maybe not in every case, the entire thing is built on a premise that isn't in play.

    Second, I guess I'm not sure what it costs, but out side of a tribute to the Dominant, there wouldn't really be a benefit to speak of.

    Finally, a lot of subs are just outright, simply put, fucking pathetic. They run around begging anyone who will engage it the key, and then are trying to use it to emulate having an actual partner, or to go around the one they already have. Some, not all, craft intricate webs of lies and bs, simply because they are bored watching online porn. A high percentage of submissive men are needy, and need some level of gratification, and will do shady things to attain it.

    Prior to meeting my Goddess I was on Fetlife for several years and would get 5-10 emails a day asking me to do all sorts of free shit that wasn't in my interest at all. Half the time the emails were copied and pasted. It's like "Hey bro, I'm tryna make a living here. Go find a girlfriend."
     
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    This is why I don't bother with it anymore, more trouble than it's worth.
     
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    The question is how to redefine it into commercial play that is semi-automated and has some gambling thrill. A better protected lock, and arbiter service that makes financial incentive for a girl to tease the guy to break the lock.
     
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