What is the end goal of online chastity?

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    The end goal is to use you, with no consideration of any benefit to you, for selfish fantasy.

    Same thing that drives men to send someone a picture of their penis. Or post the damn thing on line.

    Then again, we do live in the age of the selfie. He, everybody, look at me. Look at what I'm doing. Aren't I wonderful? I bet you've never seen anyone like me. Here, do this for me. You get the privilege of doing this for me.

    I'm reminded of my kids when they were young. They thought they were being crafty when they moved from "Daddy, buy that for me," to "Daddy, you could buy that for me." They'd progressed to subterfuge when they came up with "Daddy, we could buy that for Ryan, and if he doesn't want it, I could have it." But it was still about them. Do this for me.

    Turns out, adults don't grow up as much as they think.
     
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    Maybe there is no goal as you see it. For others, perhaps she enjoys knowing that he is locked up.
     
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    Reading between the lines of a lot of posts here, the wives do not do it for the fun of it, they tolerate it because it benefits them.

    People are always talking about the benefits of chastity to women.
     
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    The self-serving myth is that it makes the man more pliable, subservient. After all, every porn and erotica site says so, and all the books repeat the mantra. It's an echo chamber; people telling people what they want to hear, and why? Because it sells.

    The question is valid. What does the woman really get out of it?
     
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    I'd say many of these 'benefits' are things that men kid themselves into thinking they need chastity to do. Like...no, you shouldn't have to be denied orgasms just to do some laundry and be a little romantic like a decent human being in a committed relationship.

    That said, my wife certainly gets enjoyment out of keeping me locked. She likes knowing that I'm wearing a cage that she alone has the key to, especially in public and casual situations where it's 'our little secret'. She also enjoys knowing that I only get erect and orgasm on her terms. But calling either of these things a true 'benefit' to her is debatable at best, and even 24/7 wear does not somehow change me on a subconscious level to where I find myself doing whatever it takes to please her and earn my next release.

    Yes, I absolutely get desperate and stupidly horny while locked, but that's not exactly the leverage that's required to regularly say and do nice things for my wife. I think this HustbandX put it well...

     
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    What is your benefit when you donate for poor children in Africa? I do not understand such questions. You can either help others or maximize your own profit. This is a decision you have to make on your own. You can't ask others what your intentions are.

    That's what I'm always wondering when men seek for an online keyholder and the keyholder has to be female. Why on earth would the keyholder's gender matter when they never meet? The only explanation I can think of is that they hope to meet the keyholder eventually and have sex with her.

    Or they are gay and they want a keyholder who they will never be tempted to meet.
     
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    Personally, I think that is the rub. I wouldn't want to waste Miss Lucy's time after reading her profile. I didn't find the perfect Mistress for me until I stopped looking and expecting things from who I was looking for. My situation works with @Destiny103181 because we got to know each other way before chastity was brought up. We trust each other and care for each other, we do this because it is fun for BOTH of us. I have a problem with masturbation and she absolutely loves the control of locking up her cock and deciding when I can have an orgasm. It sounds simple because it is, we don't expect anything from each other, we have fun. I would assume the second it is no longer fun for either of us, the ol cage will go away.
     
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    You're asking for physical benefits in a mental exchange. You're on completely different wave lengths.

    A lot of women like knowing that they have people locked up because it gives them a sense of power, something that fuels their confidence because they know someone has given them something to control that they care deeply about.


    Here is a person talking about those dynamics and the reasons how and why they like it. There is 3 different video's that are at various stages of a chastity dynamic that she a lot of light on the subject.

    If you're not engaging in those dynamics, you won't get anything out of it.
     
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    She's a pro domme and makes a living from it. These are her benefits.

    £80 for half an hour
    £120 for an hour
    £165 for 1.5 hours
    £200 for 2 hours
    £275 for 3 hours

    GIFT INFORMATION

    Clothing: Dress size UK 10 - 12,
    Shoe size UK 6,
    Boot size UK 6.5
    (Louboutin, Jimmy Choo, Gucci, Louboutin, Alexander Wang, 1969 Italia Boutique are favourites) ,
    Height: 5ft-5in (1.65m) in bare feet.
    Perfume: Issey Miyake eau de toilette (cream box)
    Make up and beauty products: Anything from the Clinique range
    Flowers (No lilies)
    Jewellery
    Vouchers
    French brandy
    Champagne
     
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    Then charge for the service?

    If you don't want to do that, that's also ok? But you do position yourself quite prominently as a keyholder, both with your fetlife and the fact you own Chastity Mansion. I've never understood why you seem at odds with the reason why people flock to you to send you their keys, when almost all of your content gives off that impression?

    It's like dressing like a priest, in a church and being annoyed when people come to you for a confessional. I just don't understand at all.

    I mean that with the utmost respect, but i just don't understand at all.
     
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    we need more women like you Miss Lucy, when you see fit to give out a lock you do it for reasons other than money. You do it so we can better ourselves.
     
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    100% right. You better believe if you can't pay you won't play.
     
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    #38 L-u-c-y, Apr 14, 2020
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    I think males looking for an online keyholder presume women are into chastity just for the hell of it, but on this site we read women are mainly into it for the benefits.

    After being an online keyholder for a long time I can tell you there are no benefits.

    Online lockees don't even treat their keyholders like normal women, they don't send a birthday gift for example. They have been told that is wrong by the community.

    It's a lot of effort and there is no appreciation from the subs.

    I like being served like a Queen, I'm not some kinky penpal.



    If you hold keys for money then you are being a sex worker and getting paid to do what men want, which seems backwards to me. Locked males should be doing what women want. That is the whole point isn't it?
     
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    You could look at it that way, or you could look at it like the guy wants the keyholder to do his favourite sexual thing in the world.

    It's like a vanilla guy asking for a blowjob.
     
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    If we read most real life accounts here it usually goes like this:

    Male asks partner to take part in his chastity fetish.
    Female is not interested.
    Male persists (nags) and tells her the benefits.
    Female reluctantly takes part, and if all goes well she sees the benefits and carries on.

    With online keyholding it goes like this:
    Male asks online female to hold his keys.
    Female replies "What are the benefits to me?"
    Male replies "You get to control my cock and orgasms" (for no purpose)
    Female refuses pointless offer.

    Then one of four things happen:
    1. Male approaches next female, and the next, and the next, ad infinitum.
    2. Male approaches a man pretending to be a woman, who loves the idea.
    3. Male approaches a pro domme and pays for a service.
    4. Male finds 1 in 100 million woman who enjoys holding a strangers key for the hell of it.
     
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    #41 L-u-c-y, Apr 14, 2020
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    With in person chastity it seems to be all about the woman.

    With online chastity it seems to be all about the male.

    The two main reasons for men wanting to be locked:

    1. They want to devote themselves to a specific woman and do whatever they can do to please her and treat her like a Queen, chastity being a small part of it.

    2. They want to find a hot woman to turn them on.

    I like those who's priorities are pleasing me, but the vast majority online are looking for 2. That is why they can't find anyone.
     
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    A pro domme gets to pick her clients, she's in complete control of who she talks to?

    A pro domme is not a prostitute taking whatever client pulls up beside you to give you money.... A pro domme has infinitely more say and power over any of that then any street worker, so the analogy doesn't quite fit....

    But when i see things like this:
    https://www.chastitymansion.com/for...eos/chastity-mansion-8th-of-april-2020.37819/

    This to me screams: Femdom, chastity, control, training and a whole plethora of fetish related activities, and i'm obviously not alone in that assessment, because you're constantly inundated with people that interpret these messages the same way.

    This effect is doubled by the fact that you literally own a forum dedicated to Chastity and Female led relationships which is something that is so intrinsically interwoven with kink. You also refer to yourself as a mistress which is a term connected to kink as well.

    Now i don't send you these messages. I've talked to you and understand you have a different perception on how these things work, but the messages you broadcast lead to the response you receive...... i can't think of another way to phrase it.
     
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    This thread is about the end game of online chastity, not a personal analysis.

    So what you are saying is it's a sex game.
     
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    It's literally dealing with sexual organs, so i'd say yeah, it is.

    All the other side effects whether it be the mental changes of the sub to making them more subservient, more submissive or more proactive to their interactions with their Domme is something that comes with it, but make no mistake, you're participating in something that's intrinsically sexual.

    You're not selling them on joining the clergy and practicing chastity that way are you?
     
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    A lot of them? Which ones?

    Rather trumpish, those generalities. Many people say. A lot of people think. Nobody ever says whom.

    It's good that there are a lot, though. Gonna be huge. And beautiful.

    Thank God they get to hold someone's keys, too, because where would their sense of power be without that?

    "Judy, I was going to throw myself off a building the other day due to lack of meaning and no power in my life, but can you believe it? Some guy on the internet sent me a pair of keys and said they belong to a padlock on his genitalia. Now I have a purpose in life. I feel powerful. Here, hold one for me. I'm going to go divide the red sea."

    Power. Don't leave home without it. Or some anonymous guy's keys. An anonymous guy three thousand miles away who was thoughtful enough to snap pictures of his dick and send them, along with the key. Yippee!
     
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    I guess I got lucky, none of this applies to me and my Mistress (@Destiny103181). We weren't strangers so maybe that is why. But I can verify that she most certainly does get a thrill out of it.
     
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    Perhaps she would like to verify and join the female keyholders forum and give her view : )
     
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    There are definitely women out there who enjoy it and get a kick out of chastity just for the sake of it. Few and far between no doubt but they are out there.
    I'm locked by a keyholder that I found on another online platform. There is no serious servitude. She doesn't want money or gifts and has declined any such offers from anyone who has offered.
    She finds keyholding and online domination amusing and currently has a few of us locked.
    She rewards with tasks we like and punishes with tasks she knows we don't like as well pushing chastity boundaries so long as we're comfortable.
    It's just light hearted fun for us and I'm sure if she gets bored she'll cut us all loose, no harm done. The same goes for me. If I don't want to play anymore I can walk away. Chastity doesn't have to be about selling your soul. It can be just a game. I'm sure she'd help me with self improvement goals if I asked but currently there is no behaviour modification going on.

    Guys looking for online keyholding just need to understand that not all women want a random collection of keys and not all women get a thrill out of just keyholding and tailor their communications with people appropriately.
     
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    How sure are you she's a woman?
     
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    It's the internet. People aren't allowed to lie.

    Nothing is permitted on the internet unless it is true.
     
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