I am 44 years old and very well read, but I just got around to reading Venus In Furs a month ago. It was an absolute crap translation and only on the Kindle. The best translation for English is allegedly the Penguin Classics edition...so I tried to order that, and instead got the 1921 translation...complained to the seller, but that didn't stop me from diving into it for the purpose of a deep literary analysis (i.e. lots of highlights, margin notes, critical examination, etc). Next, I started to track down the memoirs Leopold von Sacher-Masoch's wife, Wanda published in 1907. I found a copy (again on kindle) and devoured it as well. I have tracked down a hard copy of the book, and that should be arriving sometime this week. I'll reread it, in the same vein as I did with Venus in Furs. I have a deep interest in all this and my intent is to conclude the book I'm wrapping up with a deep dive analysis of the dynamics and juxtapositions of those two accounts. Since I'm not an academic, I don't give a fuck about the formalism of the Ivory Tower - so I'll be throwing in other sources as well...for example the David Ives play Venus In Furs and things like Clive Barker's Hellbound Heart. Here's the "ask" ... to start off, take into account a recent description my wife gave of me when I was talking about being a switch, "You're not actually a switch. You're a violent masochist with no boundaries. You can be a bottom or a psychopath, but never a top." I share this only to try to establish my credibility - I am the real deal, and my knowledge into this subject matter is by living many of the dynamics (including the toxicity of attempts to top from the bottom....although not on the level of brutality / extortion which Leopold used on Wanda). So...is anyone in this community familiar with these books and the dynamic and would you like to have a serious discussion about the topics? Because, from my point of view, the Keyholder and the kinky dynamics of this lifestyle are all in keeping with the pursuit of The Venus In Furs....and I think the counter dynamic of Wanda von Sacher-Masoch is swirling around amidst it all, as well. Last disclaimer - thankfully, I have finally recognized my own poisonous behaviors and I'm going out of my way to rewire my brain so that I don't treat the woman I absolutely love like Leopold treated Wanda (and others as well). Who's game? This could be some interesting and insightful discussion.