Uploaded photos is to be approved from now on...

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  1. Mistress Jules
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    The reason I joined CM and have stayed here so long is because it was a lifestyle site for those interested in male chastity. The site is geared for both male and female enthusiasts and is different to most fetish sites in that there are not sexually explicit images on the main pages of the site.

    This is one of the few sites dedicated to a sexual fetish that has not turned into a pornographic site with females treated as if they exist only for the sexual pleasure of the male members. Yes there have been some bumps along the way with inappropriate messages and images pulled through in the recent activity feed however, in general this is a pleasant place to be.

    In recent months the increase in images being stored in the gallery which are much more sexually explicit and very little to do with chastity per se has been concerning.

    The lack of explicit imagery had made this site a safe haven within the www for females interested in the lifestyle. I for one am delighted to see that @Admin is endeavouring to keep that haven intact.
     
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    Rules and rules and rules and rules and Talking in the backrooms. Now go to the post right away and read it like Carrie has told you ;-)
     
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    I have just looked at yours and see your point. Given the number of them being so small I would have no problem with them at all. But I still don't agree pix can be of whatever. Some (not yours) are OTT regardless. Moderation in all things. And BTW I'm not a him but a her........
     
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    I personally had no problem with the simple rules set out and the easing for longer term members as a "reward" and we did work at that with members being messaged and asked to reduce appropriately - which they all did as I recall. We have a very nice set of members here really :)

    Problem is that many didn't see the notification so there needs to be a way of doun
     
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    Oh yes and easing things for your choice of longer term members at board room level.
     
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    Carrie is no longer a mod nor on the board. And is not involved in the rule making or enforcement anymore.

    There are discussions under way. The limits per user will probably be software enforced. Old albums will not be vetted.
    New photos will be checked on a very simple criteria.

    1. No obvious copyright violation. ( We are not to investigate , just use our common sense)
    2. Has to be related to the members chastity lifestyle experience. ( There will be room for a loose definition of "own experience", but with limits)
    3. No obvious wank fodder

    The mods will use their judgement and where they have difficulty they will consult with each other.

    Can people stop fighting and let it unfold and discuss it after it's been in place.
     
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    Not my decision.
     
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    Will forced fem photos be in or out? Dressed up sissy's?

    Chastity is a part of a lifestyle for many. Not sure how content will be scored or measured.

    Understand that in places it has gone astray, but to penalise all for the actions of a few seems draconian.

    Another site I visit has the approval system in place, puts folks off uploading if they can't use the photo straight away in their threads. Few real human photos.

    Folks end up linking to externally hosted sites, which is a poor solution.
     
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    Richard,

    To say "The mods will use their judgement and where they have difficulty they will consult with each other." ... well that just makes no sense ... that is the EXACT thing that has people up in arms ...

    I have been in another Adult forum for 20 years and watched it go through different "management" and growing pains ... but one thing always rings true if it is even perceived that "big brother" is "deciding" what can and cannot be posted in the community it automatically upsets / divides the community.

    Also to ask people to "stop fighting and let it unfold and discuss it after it's been in place" seems again to give the wrong impression and divide the community.

    First and for most people do NOT "like" change no matter what anyone person may say humans like things consistent ... when they turn on the faucet they want the water to flow ... So any change is going to cause grumbling for the people. To have effective change you need a fair plan (that is not based on someones opinion) and plenty of lead time notice ... if you have these 2 things and keep "judgement" and opinion out of it you will have a good chance of success.
     
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    Indeed it is that what some people think that is the problem.

    So for some chastity can be a very narrow definition and thus would end up wit a very few pictures and very fee members. Also the mods may have their own prejudices that rise to the surface on this one. Set a flat number limit is the most even approach I would say.

    Starting to censor stuff and I guess the first thing is why bother posting or indeed walk away from CM.
    Defining what is chastity and the images to go with that and omg there are as many reasons as members as we are all different.
    Bit like having a coffee shop but not selling tea and cakes ect ! Oh but we are a coffee shop er yes but .....

    The idea of letting a few people decide who and what with what has the chance of being a very narrow definition is strewn with pit falls .

    Xx Wendy
     
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    I'm not sure what's so wrong about having some basic expectations about what imagery gets posted / uploaded. And if albums are being used too much for unrelated images / as personal file storage, maybe size limits would be easier? Also, I would say that a members personal album should be the place where he has the most flexibility to upload, as nobody is forced to look anyway.

    But you briefly mentioned caged shots as avatars - thank you!! I've definitely thought about this a few times. The first of these notification posts mentioned trying to make the site more inviting to newcomers. Less intimidating to people just discovering this world. And I must say, being bombarded instantly by avatar after avatar of half-naked fat dudes in panties with their cocks in your face is not ideal to that end. Let me be clear - I'm not judging anyone because of their bellies or cock size or dressing habits or anything else. It's just then men's bodies in general aren't lovely! We're pretty gross! That's reality. So I think some basic guidelines for those public facing images would be just fine and totally justifiable, and good for the site.

    I myself have wanted several times to send a vanilla friend or two to CM because I thought that they may actually be intrigued. But I have never once actually sent the link or directed them here because I know that they would immediately be met with tons of images of caged, pantied, hairy men with their caged cocks front and center, and that it would have the exact opposite effect. They'd never come back. It makes it tough to ease outsiders into the community when they're confronted instantly with the that sort of imagery.

    We have the threads themselves in which to post pics, we have the albums, all fair game I say. I just think the parts everyone is forced to see no matter what (the avatars) could be toned down a bit so that people can ease into things. Kind of public vs private space - private conversation vs screaming in the street sort of thing.
     
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    I totally agree with @Thatguyontheinternet - rather than spend time policing the galleries set a limit on how many images can be posted and don't worry about overtly policing it. Obviously it has to be monitored as we don't want kiddy porn or anything like that, and anyone posting huge wank bank collections need to be dealt with. Then get on with the real job of deleting dick profile pics. Don't even ask, make it part of the sign up process that explicitly states no dick pics and anyone who cannot follow that simple instruction just gets the profile picture removed by a mod.
     
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    I'm with Jasmic et al on the avatars. Let's make it clear on sign up that any genital, locked cock or other crotch-shot will be deleted.

    As a mod, it pains me to have to go and police photo albums in the gallery section, it's not how any of us want to spend our time. Giving approval to uploaded images will hopefully prevent abuse in the first place, and will at least focus the minds of members as to what they are uploading, so the job is shared to some extent.
     
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    also note that the mods here sre approachable. You can discuss why a picture was rejected.

    discussion is good. Fighting is bad.

    this is a chastity site. Not a porn site.
    the easiest way to monitor is at source i.e. when pics are uploaded.
    without it we will get lots of porn.

    even good members of the community have been pulled up in the past and have apologised.
     
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    #40 Jens, Aug 25, 2016
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    Thank You all for making this place so vibrant:)
    A good debate now and then is really what this place has been lacking, so I certainly welcome your comments:)

    Let me say that I have no intention of implementing a moral police, nor do I want to be nitty gritty about what photos members upload.

    From all this debate I can say this:

    1. We are testing - this for a week, and then we evaluate. period.
    Part of the Testing is also all of your comments and inputs. So keep them coming over the week. Thank You.

    2. Galleries is one thing, Avatars another. Avatars is what you see all over when you as a newcomer enters the Mansion, even as a visitor, who has not yet decided to join.

    And you should all be able to agree with me that our members are so much more than a cage shot, right?
    Cage-shot avatars does not profile us very well. When my wife joined this place she was very reluctant because of that, And I had to to use all of my wisdom and charme;-) to make her understand, that behind these cage shots - real people, not freaks were beating with their devoted hearts.
    So - strict rules about not having cage-shots and similar as avatars sets the tone and the look of the mansion, and that is where we should see strong enforcement in the future.

    With the Galleries it is a different story.
    I have no intention of being a hard-liner on this. Why would I? We all have our kinks, our turn-ons, our fetish and artistic expressions. We are not alike, and we should not be suppressed in our expressions. So When I say that that photos has to be chastity-related and a part of your own lifestyle experience, the boundaries are wide, very wide indeed.
    • I do not like to see huge numbers of obvious copyright violated photos being uploaded.
    • I do not like to see female degrading photos in here. Sexual explicit photos uploaded by females members is the exception, but they will have to be related to - Yes - the members lifestyle experience.
    • I do not like to see huge numbers of wank fodder photos.
    • And finally: I do not like to see CM being used as members cloud storage for photos.

    What I would like to see is member being creative, innovative and imaginative in their online photo selection here on CM. Tell a story about yourself and your take on the lifestyle. Being a Sissy? No problem. Le's see your take on the lifestyle. etc. etc. etc..

    It is not that hard really.
    CM wants to remain and build on being this special place on the internet where we surface as real people with pure hearts and a deep devotion for the lifestyle. And a place where people can go to explore, and communicate - without being blown way - or scared away.

    My number one purpose with taken over CM was to do what I can to make the lifestyle more acceptable in society.

    And that is what this is all about here. We should not have to hide away. We should never even for once think that we are freaks, and we should never be embarrassed.

    In order to get any closer to that goal, we might need to do a little "repacking" of the CM's face to the public.

    I am trying my best here, with the upcoming changes to make the entry to and the understanding of the lifestyle just a little easier....


    But for now- we are testing. And we will evaluate. And You can all tip in.-)

    Admin/Jens
     
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    I'm sorry, but what now? Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not here for wank fodder, but I'm not sure "it can be sexually explicit so long as its from a female" is sending out a message of open mindedness and tolerance.

    By all means if you wish to restrict sexually explicit photos go right ahead, but to only allow them from women isnt exactly supporting the wider community.

    This has nothing to do with the fact that I'm a male dominant, but not everyone is a female supremacist. Do you have the same issue with "degrading" photos of males (I'm not sure puritanical language like degrading is exactly fair to use on a BDSM orientated site either - one persons degradation is another persons desire).

    I must admit, I'm not exactly liking where this is leading so I'm going to be proactive in removing any of my uploads for the time being. I know you say existing galleries won't be scrutinised, but as a male who doesnt wear a device, none of my photos directly feature chastity, and I certainly wouldnt upload photos I've taken of a third party wearing one for obvious reasons.
     
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    Sorry, one last thing I meant to add is that if CM is part of a political movement for the chastity lifestyle to be accepted (I've got my doubts it'll ever happen in the same way as I don't think you'll ever get human puppies accepted by wider society for example, but hey, more power to you for trying :) ), I'm not sure how that works when you are attempting to prevent people expressing themselves (entire porn collections and copyright issues aside).

    It shouldnt be members here having to sanitise their own thoughts and expression in order to meet the approval of "outsiders", it should be the outsiders who open their minds to the fact that not everyone else shares their belief system. To draw a clumsy analogy, should gay activists at Pride marches have to tone down their behaviour so as to get greater acceptance from mainstream/heterosexual society?

    Please don't take the above to mean I'm complaining about censorship as I don't believe that is the intention here at all, but these sort of steps do have wider consequences. I get that you want chastity focused content only, but if you don't mind me saying so, isnt that just going to mean lots of pictures of cock cages and the odd padlock in galleries? Its a pretty niche, well definied and specific interest.
     
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    This is a male chastity website, it should come as no surprise...
    If You think you are misplaced... Well.... What can I say...?

    I do not believe in female supremacy either, but I do believe in mutual benefits from a female lead lifestyle:)
    It has done wonders for so many...

    And we need to set ourselves aside form the suffocating porn-sites that display females as nothing but wank fodder and fuck-dolls!
     
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    I was not aware that it was an exclusive male chastity site, nor one merely aimed at female led (and by extension, heterosexual) relationships. Perhaps in that case I am in the wrong place.

    Ultimately you own the site and its yours to do with as you wish, but it seems to me you're looking to rebuild it in a way that only serves your interests, rather than encouraging an open, tolerant and varied community. That may not be your intention, but its how its coming across.
     
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    I will have to disagree. You have to reach out, not to sit back as a spoiled self righteous kid, waiting for everybody else to see that you hold the upper hand.
    Cause that s truly never going to happen.
     
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    I'd agree with you on all your points @DaddySnuggles, but our view on what is acceptable will be far wider than you suggest. Now you've deleted your album, why not try a test upload of the sort of imagery you might wish to have represent your interest? You can always delete it again.
     
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    If you could just hold your horses, you will be able to see how I will make sure by sectioning the Mansion, we will be able to facilitate a variety of kinks/fetishes in here still.
    Have a little patience....:):)
     
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    sorry - forget to write that the varieties will circle around male chastity. This is not a supermarket of fetishes...
     
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    What is the point of the gallery here? If someone has an album of 30 photos and none of them feature chastity in any way, surely that is pointless? It's not censorship, it's just not relevant to the site. It's easy to tweak someones style of photos so they feature chastity, maybe some people are too lazy to do that.
     
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    Far better to post to Tumblr and link images from there. I don't understand what all the complaining is about.
     
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