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To sum up: Chastity and feminization

Discussion in 'The Powder Room' started by PuppyMastersPet, Nov 14, 2008.

  1. Hello All. I was going to start a new thread with this but reading back I think it is pertinent to the tone of this and to my previous comments in this vein. Soooooooo, here I sit in my manly work clothes with the pantyhose on underneath (not too out of the ordinary for me) which I slept in last evening over top of my COMPLETELY shaven (NOT ordinary for me!) legs. What the hell am I doing and why?!? As I explained before, I shave from my neck to just above my knees (not including armpits---they are manscaped) and have done so for 10+ years with my Wife/Mistress/Keyholder's approval and encouragement. I shaved my legs entirely once and she did not like it but said to manscape the bushiness on my lower leg. Well, she was busy Saturday evening and I decided to prep for some intimate time with her for when she came to retire. All was quiet and I took the opportunity to enjoy a program, fix a snack and put away several rather strong libations before hopping in the shower. Well, with another beverage by the shower I hopped in and scrubbed myself clean and commenced my body shaving and manscaping as I do every other shower so I would be smooth as she likes. Well, I got carried away, rationalized that we have at least several more weeks of long pants weather and before I knew what I was doing I had completely shaved both legs...when I got out of the shower I was like "Oh crap, what was I thinking?!?", but at the same time incredibly hot, leaking and turned on. I applied cocoa butter cream to my legs and put on my crotchless pantyhose (which felt great on my smooth legs), then buckled into my leather plug/strap on harness and decided to snap on the dildo I want to use so badly on her (she still had no interest in that) and topped it off with my shiny black crotchless body shaping compression unitard with my locked away parts buried and only the dildo poking out. We had a nice time. I massaged, worshipped and rolled around with her in bed for a bit but she was tired and only wanted to cuddle (no grinding or anything). Well anyway, she saw me undress afterward and redress for bed (just pantyhose and nightshirt) and most likely did not notice my hairless legs, though as soon as I was back in bed she had a leg over my leg and a hand resting on my hose covered hairless leg. So, what do I do? Point it out to her? Just keep shaving until shorts weather and see if she notices? WHY did I do this? Is it the whole long term chastity thing driving this more feminine behavior? I don't identify as a sissy, or ache to be female or hate my gender but I do know I am turned on by light crossdressing AND I have grown to dislike any body hair on men and women. 100% if and when she finds out she says she does not like it...so now what? I just wish I knew what the hell came over me! I was truly not loaded, but admittedly a bit buzzed and feeling way sexy and horny. She bewitches me!!!!

    allaboutHer
     
  2. I think you summed it up. She bewitches me. What power woman have. How they can control just being with you. We are drawn to them, like a bug to light. Your right, She bewitches you.
     
  3. This sounds completely familier to me. I was doing the same, shaving top with her permission (including pits which I have shaved for 15 years), and manscaping my legs until about 3 weeks ago I just felt the overwhelming desire to shave my legs, so I did and have every other day since. I don't know why either, but for similar reasons. I hate all body hair on men and women, I don't know why but I hate it. I have been working hard to get my body in great shape and admit some narcissistic behavior lately, and well, I like the way my body including my legs look shaved.

    I'm also not sure Ma'am has noticed, we've been naked and intimate a few times since and she hasn't said anything. We took yoga together this weekend and she sat next to me and my bare legs and didn't say anything. I say go for it! Tell her you like it! Wear shorts!

    I'm pretty sure I'm keeping mine shaved for good even for shorts and pool weather. If anyone asks I'm just going to tell them I like the way they look shaved. Or at least that's my plan, we'll see if it really happens.

    Any yes, I think it's related to the lock up. My femme tendencies get stronger the longer I'm locked. I'm at 79 days now and shaving my whole body and growing out my nails. It's not that I expect to pass as a women, but almost the opposite, I feel like I shouldn't have to pass as being a manly man!
     
  4. ....mine decides the when and where, part of my submission to her, she decides, but it is glorious fun when she plays with me this way!
     
  5. as sissy girl who is in transition I been finding it very hard to find a suitable chastity cage. The hormones have made me extremely small and it has made my sissy penis hide like a turtle many times. I feel the best route is for me to go with a female chastity belt. Not sure if a PA cage would work do to how small I am.

    I want to show my total devotion and love to my Mistress by getting the proper fitting. The small CB 6000 barely is of any use to me. Which in many ways shows that my final surgery is my best option.

    For now my Goddess has pierced me with her own hands with a PA piercing as a sign of ownership.
     
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  6. yes, i might be getting one of them as well.
     
  7. Thanks for this thread.

    In my twenties I was a very passable transvestite and drag queen, but lost my looks when I got depressed and alcohol dependent and gained a huge amount of weight. After years as an obese man I finally returned to a normal weight and was determined to just be a normal sober straight guy. 10 years of marriage later and I was going crazy from wanting to act on both my bisexuality and my submissiveness. I've now got a male lover with my wife's permission and I am submissive to them both. That's not an easy road....but to make matters more complicated I am feeling my submissiveness slide more and more toward the femme side. I never thought I'd want to wear panties again and if we didn't have a child in the house I'd seriously consider shaving my body and doing some dressing again.

    But my wife is not one who enjoys my feminine side, it makes her distinctly uncomfortable. It is harder on her than my bisexuality, and that's no cakewalk either.

    The other question that has come up is whether exporsure to chastity and sissy porn on the Internet is driving these impulses or following them....have you ever noticed a change when you stay away from propaganda and community support such as this forum?
     
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    @oakbisubmwm@oakbisubmwm it has to be said that we build our minds by what we focus on. Conspiracy theorists see conspiracies in everything, not because those conspiracies actually exist (well, not always) but because their minds are focussed on them.

    I've always had a desire to dress a la femme from time to time, mainly in chiffon lingerie and nighties, and chastity devices once discovered in porn fitted into my current relationship fairly neatly. But sissy porn certainly builds my more sissy desires in a way that certainly reduces when I'm away from it for any length of time.

    Dress here and there if you feel the need to, and for my money it's likely a need, but if it helps the relationship to stay off the sissy porn then stay away from it. Focus on something more productive maybe.
     
  9. I am taking steps to lay off of it. But I can't help expressing myself in a femme way, especially during sex, and that's not driven by porn, that's innate. The more I take ownership of that and stop trying to be butch in bed the happier I feel sexually, and the jury is still out whether the relationship can tolerate me changing that much.

    To be honest, my femme goes hand in hand with submissiveness and chastity is just a part of it. Seems like you have your masculine submissives and feminine submissives. For more masculine subs it seems like chastity is a way of restraining a powerful stud, whereas someone like me craves the emasculation that comes with it.
     
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    Well, I'm with you there. Femme sub all the way here. Fortunately my partner is reasonably ok with that, being bi as I am.
    Enforced monogamous bi though, so I cant see that I'd ever be allowed to play away, or even to entertain in for that matter.
     
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  11. It is all about emasculation for me too. It seems to validate my femme side and gives some authenticity to my behaviour.
     
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  12. Love these threads :)

    Unlike websites that are specifically for the cd/tv/ts community CM supprisingly has a lot of people who like to dress in girls clothes .
    However the reasons why are various but for some it's a very real and deep desire .

    Just so interesting to read how chastity seems to either be allmost seen as a cure or the reason why girls knickers seem more attractive than boxers .

    Xx Wendy
     
  13. I was just thinking about how the main reasons I come here are for the femme discussions, not so much chastity, even though I have been locked pretty much continuously for a year and lead a watered down FLR. It's the femme boy content that I enjoy and haven't found elsewhere.
     
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  14. I adore dressing in sexy lingerie and having Misstress Dominate me. Making me her bitch.
     
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  15. I also am supprised at my feelings of late now sitting in panties and painted toe nails with toe ring ...all stuff that can be hidden I also had no desire to do any of the above until we began chastity which has been basically full on for a couple of years the longer I go the more I think about slight hidden feminization I seem to have the same feelings as allanouther also wanting to shave my legs now ...I don't understand but it makes me so horny
     
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  16. Being sweet for a woman is Heaven, They love driving the man out of you. Its their game, We play buy their rules.and love it.
     
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  17. Also I must add------Men take, Woman give, I can see why a lot of woman, want their men to be Fem. there is nothing as wonderful as watching two woman make love to each other. Sissy's also give.
     
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  18. Hello All.
    ...and so it has been since February 2014 that I last posted in this thread. I have not had a single orgasm from then til now.. I reread my thoughts and comments and all of your comments. In general, not much has changed but there has been subtle advancement. My Wife/Mistress/Keyholder does not let much be known. She does 'look' more the part of a dominant, in charge female tho...I suggested a short wedge style hairdo and she wears it with delight now. I have given her earings and necklaces with key charms and she wears them regularly. I even got her a thumb ring which she wears occasionally as she tries to get used to it. Dresses and skirts are rare for her (except hot summer days) and hosiery is almost non existent; it is all about deliciously clingy leggings and high boots with billowing tops for her. She also generally wears girlie patterned boy pajamas. I keep her toes and feet to perfection and she has several toe rings she likes to sport, especially in sandal weather. Her style is not 'butch' per se, but add in her height (nearly 6'0) and I think it definitely exudes an "I wear the pants." or an "I control my stallion" persona.

    We did just recently have a discussion where she expressed that she is sexually satisfied with the way, frequency and manner in which she gets her orgasms (most frequently her vibrator and from grinding sessions with me every few weeks). She also expressed that she likes the frequent cuddling, touching, massaging and intertwining which occurs between us---especially when I am "dressed all sexy and silky" (sometimes 7 nights a week when I feel we are both not to tired at bedtime, but usually less). She definitely likes the pampering and the general role reversal as I take on traditionally/stereotypically female tasks and roles.

    So where is my head? I feel myself slipping down a slope. I love anal play...I love nipple play...I find myself fantasizing that I am her lesbian lover and at this point I would give her any degree of that she would ask for because I feel very sexy doing it with her. NO, I do not desire to live as a female or become one (nor will I!), but sexually this gender bending is a blast...I melt in her arms and feel so deliciously submissive, and yes, I think it has to do with my long term orgasm denial...probably 80%. Perhaps 20% of this has always been there inside me, who knows. I love my silky under clothing I wear. I am in abject shock that it has crept into my dresser to almost consume an entire drawer. In some ways it embarrasses me too...I feel like a complete pussy when I really think about it and how I have not been permitted an orgasm for so long and willingly accept it...yet I crave this. I also have found that sharing a man sexually with her has trickled into my fantasies and I have included this in several of the fictional naughty narratives/short stories I have written and sent to her and received hearts-in-the-eyes emoticons in return.

    So, I am much farther into this, in a subtle way. I definitely think taking away orgasms and the control of my orgasms and the focus on my penis and penile stimulation----being kept chaste---is the big ingredient here. Add in my generally passive nature, latent fetishes, twist them around, make them my main source of pleasure and add in a woman who likes to control her domain and who in my opinion falls into the bisexual almost lesbian spectrum and I think enforced chastity can and will feminize a man ever so gradually. This may not work on all men, but I think if shown alternate pathways to pleasure and triggers can be discovered and and for the lack of a better word, exploited, I think a man can be "broken" like a horse or maybe to sound less diabolical, "operantly conditioned" to accept a more passive female persona....AND LIKE IT, and grow to find himself CRAVING it more and more if all of the proper pieces are in place. So yes, if practiced on the long term and as a lifestyle, I believe enforced male chastity through the use of a chastity device is VERY powerful at affecting a man's behavior in whatever direction his Keyholder desires and no matter what, it will serve to feminize to a degree...that degree is up to the Keyholder and in large part to the man. I will end with that it is hard to resist something you are becoming conditioned, even passively, to crave when it makes your heart throb and your knees buckle at the very sight of the person who so innocently holds your key.

    allaboutHer
     
  19. [QUewOTE="allaboutHer, post: 153129, member: 28543"]Hello All.
    ...and so it has been since February 2014 that I last posted in this thread. I have not had a single orgasm from then til now.. I reread my thoughts and comments and all of your comments. In general, not much has changed but there has been subtle advancement. My Wife/Mistress/Keyholder does not let much be known. She does 'look' more the part of a dominant, in charge female tho...I suggested a short wedge style hairdo and she wears it with delight now. I have given her earings and necklaces with key charms and she wears them regularly. I even got her a thumb ring which she wears occasionally as she tries to get used to it. Dresses and skirts are rare for her (except hot summer days) and hosiery is almost non existent; it is all about deliciously clingy leggings and high boots with billowing tops for her. She also generally wears girlie patterned boy pajamas. I keep her toes and feet to perfection and she has several toe rings she likes to sport, especially in sandal weather. Her style is not 'butch' per se, but add in her height (nearly 6'0) and I think it definitely exudes an "I wear the pants." or an "I control my stallion" persona.

    We did just recently have a discussion where she expressed that she is sexually satisfied with the way, frequency and manner in which she gets her orgasms (most frequently her vibrator and from grinding sessions with me every few weeks). She also expressed that she likes the frequent cuddling, touching, massaging and intertwining which occurs between us---especially when I am "dressed all sexy and silky" (sometimes 7 nights a week when I feel we are both not to tired at bedtime, but usually less). She definitely likes the pampering and the general role reversal as I take on traditionally/stereotypically female tasks and roles.

    So where is my head? I feel myself slipping down a slope. I love anal play...I love nipple play...I find myself fantasizing that I am her lesbian lover and at this point I would give her any degree of that she would ask for because I feel very sexy doing it with her. NO, I do not desire to live as a female or become one (nor will I!), but sexually this gender bending is a blast...I melt in her arms and feel so deliciously submissive, and yes, I think it has to do with my long term orgasm denial...probably 80%. Perhaps 20% of this has always been there inside me, who knows. I love my silky under clothing I wear. I am in abject shock that it has crept into my dresser to almost consume an entire drawer. In some ways it embarrasses me too...I feel like a complete pussy when I really think about it and how I have not been permitted an orgasm for so long and willingly accept it...yet I crave this. I also have found that sharing a man sexually with her has trickled into my fantasies and I have included this in several of the fictional naughty narratives/short stories I have written and sent to her and received hearts-in-the-eyes emoticons in return.

    So, I am much farther into this, in a subtle way. I definitely think taking away orgasms and the control of my orgasms and the focus on my penis and penile stimulation----being kept chaste---is the big ingredient here. Add in my generally passive nature, latent fetishes, twist them around, make them my main source of pleasure and add in a woman who likes to control her domain and who in my opinion falls into the bisexual almost lesbian spectrum and I think enforced chastity can and will feminize a man ever so gradually. This may not work on all men, but I think if shown alternate pathways to pleasure and triggers can be discovered and and for the lack of a better word, exploited, I think a man can be "broken" like a horse or maybe to sound less diabolical, "operantly conditioned" to accept a more passive female persona....AND LIKE IT, and grow to find himself CRAVING it more and more if all of the proper pieces are in place. So yes, if practiced on the long term and as a lifestyle, I believe enforced male chastity through the use of a chastity device is VERY powerful at affecting a man's behavior in whatever direction his Keyholder desires and no matter what, it will serve to feminize to a degree...that degree is up to the Keyholder and in large part to the man. I will end with that it is hard to resist something you are becoming conditioned, even passively, to crave when it makes your heart throb and your knees buckle at the very sight of the person who so innocently holds your key.

    allaboutHer[/QUOTE]


    PLEASE ALLOW ME TO CORRECT MYSELF...My last post in this thread was March 2015. My thoughts still apply, time frame aside.

    allaboutHer
     
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  20. My mistress/wife has proposed some changes in my chastity relationship with her. She wants to have me undergo an orchiectomy, start HRT and undergo other feminization procedures. She said that doing so would obviate the need to wear a chastity device and have milking sessions. I would miss my allowed monthly climax but the proposal looks interesting. I love my wife and wish to please her. I would still be the submissive and carry on my other duties for her. Opinions??
     
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  21. Thats quite a sacrifice. And I don't believe it would alleviate the need for regular milkings as they are more for your prostate than your testicles.

    Choose wisely.
     
  22. Except the reduction in testosterone will shrink the prostate and thus the need for milking.

    Be interesting to know how you are going to get the orchidectomy. Though it is a neat and tidy solution.

    However you may well want to explore chemical methods . They are quite easy to obtain the proper products that are properly designed for the task . They are quite capable of reducing testosterone to vertualy zero in a couple of weeks and then add in the oestrogen.
    The anti-androgen are relatively safe and produce some feminising effects on their own . So you won't need much oestrogen to make quite a difference.

    Xx Wendy
     
  23. i still has my ones but i don't make a lot of testrone anyways.
     
  24. Mistress knows a female surgeon so it would be easy as an out patient, and her surgeon friend wouldn't require the usual process usually required by most surgeons.
     
  25. please is it gonna be done in your house and is there lots of blood when its done.