Time to ditch the ball trap devices

Discussion in 'Difficulties with wearing a device?' started by Lakeman, Jul 7, 2018.

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    After 3 years of chastity and multiple devices from cheap to high end custom, the ball trap ring devices are still a pain. It goes from wonderful, I hardly know it’s there, which is most of the time, to dammit, there’s pinching of skin, the occasional sore spot which needs a break from the cage.

    I’m seriously thinking of getting a piercing and getting a device without the base ring, like the Evotions Bijou for example. There are many other custom makers who do these. I do like the feeling of the compression trying to get an erection in the ring devices, and that the ringless devices do allow you to get erect, so I would miss that, but I think the long term benefits of comfort from not having the ring around my balls would be great.

    I’m interested in the views and experiences of others.
     
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    I think if you're hoping to "never know it's there" you're expectations are a tad unrealistic.
    It IS there. So of course you'll know about it from time to time and have to deal with it and make allowances.
    I don't think that will change bychanging your device, and I don't think it's anything to do with having a back ring or not.
    I find such things are easily taken care of with proper cleaning/maintenance and a bit of adjustment now and then.
     
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    I wear a Lori 8A and I can say that there is a massive difference between ball trap devices and ringless devices. I was pierced for exactly the reason you mention, I was fed up with the discomfort and the endless battle of trying everything in the book to alleviate it. It seemed like the main function of the device was to make me obsessed with it and my penis, and inhibiting erections/orgasm was just a secondary benefit.

    I have been very nearly continuously locked for 2 1/2 years and I have never had to have the device removed because of discomfort of any kind. I have gone 3-4 months without having it removed for any reason with no ill effect.

    There is the downside that a partial erection is still possible, but regardless, orgasm is virtually impossible for me while locked.
     
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    @Living Curious, does the ability to get partially erect affect the quality of your chastity? That is, do you find that being able to get partly hard increases your frustration, lessens it, or is it about the same? I know that for me a big part of the pleasurable sensation of being locked, apart from the compression, is the downward pressure on my attempted erections. But is there a compensating increase in frustration by not having that?
     
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    @boisub Those periodic moments of intense frustration and longing for a full erection do still happen, but much less often for me, and not to the same degree.
     
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    I guess it is all about what parts of chastity are important to you. For me the confinement and erection suppression of my ball trap JB are constantly arousing, a form of bdsm, which is an important part of the whole chastity experience. I am willing to put up with a deal of discomfort and put in a lot of effort to keep my skin in good shape to be able to wear the device without removal.
     
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    I am sorry to hear that the OP is having problems. My experience is that trapped ball devices can work, but the rear ring has to be carefully designed.

    Many devices available today construct the rear ring using bar stock which is bent into the ring shape. That means that the cross section of the ring is circular, and where it contacts the skin there is basically a tangent, so a lot of pressure is placed at that point. That can result in a pressure sore.

    A solution is to construct the ring using a flat bar, which spreads out the pressure across the contact area.
     
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    In that first paragraph, I meant "round bar stock".
     
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    Thanks everyone for your replies. I’m not sure I’m up for the big change of the PA, I might go with a frenum piercing.
     
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    A frenum sounds like a good option to me. I couldn't afford the rehab time for a PA (especially managing the bleeding). From what I can find it may not be suficiently robust for a heavier cage, but if isn't a ball trap device it might be light enough not to be a problem?
    Personally, I'd like to use one as an anti pull-out option on a snug ball trap cage.
     
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    My piercing and steelwerks tube device worked great for a while. After about two years of continuous wear, it became ineffective. My wife decided she would rather have me confined in a small cage with no room to grow. Feels like actually being in chastity again. Plenty of cheap cages that are working well if it wasn’t for my piercing.

    We still like my piercing but it can still be a challenge to find the right device. Just something to think about. As far as healing, the PA bled more than when I got a frenum. The frenum was never comfortable though and started to tear when using it with a device. I cannot recommend a frenum for chastity or pleasure. Just my experience.
     
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    Do you really think that a flat bar is the optimal design? I've tried a more "flat" design (with filleted edges), and switched to a round shape to find it much more comfortable. Maybe it's because I'm using 8mm diameter instead of 5mm? I do think more surface are would spread out the pressure better.
     
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    I had similar problems with many devices. I went for a pa5000 for a while. The trouble was I didn’t fell locked. No pinching no problems. You think it would of been perfect.

    Now in a rigid chastity halfshel. It’s a good compromise. Comfy 99.9% of the time. Still restrictive though
     
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    I’ve found the Mature Metal double base ring to be very comfortable, and I think that the spreading of pressure around a bigger area, however it’s achieved, makes a big difference.

    It does seem to me like a ring of flat bar would be less comfortable, but having never tried it I don’t know.
     
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    I do thing the double ring is a good looking design. Glad to hear that it's very comfortable as well. I may have to give it a try.
     
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    When did you order your rigid chastity device and what was the turn around time from order to delivery?
     
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    I've had a PA since I was a teenager but the just a tube with no A-ring just does nothing for me or my Lady. I can't imagine how anyone might think that they work but they do for some and good luck to them.
     
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