The Lights Are Dim .. The Heat Is Off .. The Shops Are Closed

I think we essentially agree Vioer. The accident was sabotage and the intent was to antagonize east vs west.

Like you said. WW3 has already begun.

 

Wikipedia mentions and shows photo of "concrete weight coating."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream

There was a significant Seismic event, so it wasn't a small amount of explosive, I'm GUESSING.

"One of the explosions had a magnitude of 2.3, and was registered at as many as 30 measuring stations in southern Sweden," SVT said.

 

Sabotaged by the Americans.
Germanymagazine Der Spiegel has reported that the CIA warned Germany weeks ago of a coming attack on natural gas pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and 2
The US already publicly threatened to get it stopped whatever it took. Some time ago https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/02/23/statement-by-president-biden-on-nord-stream-2/ .
Not to mention having been doing whatever they can legally to get it stopped for years.
The US can't afford to have Russia dominating energy markets or planning new global reserve currencies with china and the BRICS nations.
Hence the proxy war in Ukraine.
How are the US going to put a stop to China? that\s the biggest worry of all.

 

A very plausible scenario. Like you guys said above: It’s hard to blow up stuff 150 meters under water.

 

US will do anything to prevent a new global empire.

 

I'm not saying your wrong, but you have (potentially) proven my prior post in which I suggest Russia did it, because people will naturally assume the US did it; we stupidly said we would. Never show your cards!

The US and China are the best of friends, just ask the Biden family. ;-)

Corporate American willingly shipped American technology and money to China believing they would have easy access to 1.413 billion new customers. American's have been broke, for a couple decades, without access to printed money. American colleges willingly took in Chinese students, provided them access to leading edge technology, all to make more $. Microsoft, Google, Facebook, all created by, young people. China used our own Internet to gain access to way too much business information, designs and technology.

I stopped working for corporate America long ago because I didn't want to export my (now limited) brain power to China. Most Americans didn't care as long as they were still getting a paycheck.

China may ultimately win, even if we win against Russian. The thing with China, being a communist country, publicly we don't know their true financial state.

 

Russia would lose all its leverage with Europe if it destroyed its own pipelines.

 

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eGk1si6dOKU

 

I quickly sampled this video and will give it a careful listen later. It’s good so far. Thanks for a broad historical view.

 

A critical point you make. The PIG is far easier in this case.

The food industry uses pigs to clean out pipes with pasty food in them.

 

I can not argue against this logic.

And to put it another way: the west could not allow Russia to have this power.

 

Ahhh, there’s a vote for my Germany/USA theory.

 

But, Russia is winning the propaganda war whether they did it or not, including inside the US.

Germany's economy may collapse. Recall WW2, Russians don't like Germans, I presume.

Putin: Crazy like a Fox!

Putin was in charge of Russia's CIA, correct?

 

You are 100% correct. And your implied point that it doesn’t matter WHO blew up the pipeline is spot on. Because now Russia (and China) have “just cause” to retaliate.

 

No more online shoe shopping :-(

 

American, if not Global, technocratic society would collapse overnight, as everything is done over the internet.

Zombies who walk about staring at their Smartphone would cease to function.

 

Russia has direct connection to the baltic sea. One in Kaliningrad and the other one between finland and estonia at St Petersburg. Ghe have a fleet in baltic sea, as the US also have.
There has been a sighting near the Events of a US flot.

The biggest winner of a distruction of these pipelines is USA. Who started embargos against Russia years ago if these pipelines werent shut. The US want to sell their frecking gas to Europe and are afraid of an eurasian connection in form of an economy zone. Many billion people with strong markets and manymany resources compared to 360 millions with an instable economy.
Distruction of the pipeline is like castrating the trading capabilities between Russia and Europe. It is almost irreversible.

The only reaon I see for russia is a false flag operation ( ukraine or US) or as a warning against Europe / western world not to stay in this war.

 

I agree. Especially because Russia controlled the inlet anyways. Why blow it up if all you need to do is shut it off?

NOW the question is why is this thing still spraying gas all over the place? Can’t it be shut off?

 

It has billions of cubic metres of gas in it, under a lot of pressure, and seawater is rushing in to displace the gas. Apparently it will continue for a week or so.