The Great "anti" Porn debate

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    My porn viewing interest are almost the same as 20 years ago. I am sometimes curious and watch different things but so did i 30 years ago. At that time there were porn with animals, children, snuff, sex with dead, and so on.. Anyway if your porn viewing has changed it might as well had done that regardless of the "free" porn on internet. A few people get addicted to porn - regardless of the internet, like some get addicted to anything else.
     
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    Depends on how your example became addicted. Did she progress from prescribed painkillers to illicit drugs? Or did she, as my idiot grandson did, simply go out and experiment? So, yeah. My statement needed a little context. But only a little.
     
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    No, you called every addict weak and stupid.
     
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    You're *still* missing the point. What happened in the past is wholly and completely irrelevant, within the context of the OP's discussion. It doesn't matter if yesterday there was no porn at all. From this point forward, porn will be ubiquitous unless and until someone changes the First Amendment and allows the government to restrict that part of "free speech" (at least, here in the US, and given the Internet and the way it works, even restrictions in other countries would never be successful).

    I suppose it might happen some dozens of years down the road, but in the near term (certainly within yours and my lifetimes) it's not going to happen. Therefore, we have no choice but to deal with it (and do it as individuals, since there will be no collective "solution" to the "problem" the OP has identified).

    EDIT: For the record, I had access to Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler magazines for years before the Internet became a possibility for accessing porn. And porn was literally one of the first things I started searching for when I got my first 2400 baud modem.
     
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    You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Addiction is not an "intelligence" problem, nor is it usually a "hormonal" problem. Having said that, a lot of this country's politicians share your view, which is one reason why we don't have enough effective mechanisms for dealing with addiction in our society.
     
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    I sure wouldn't bet money on that.
     
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    Um, yeah, I would. Here are the top 10 oil industry giants and their revenues for the latest available year(2017)

    Royal Dutch Shell-$264.9B

    Exxon Mobile-$236.8B

    Petro China-$274.6B

    Chevron-$129.9B

    Total-$143.4B

    Sinopec-$283.5B

    Gazprom-$102.7B

    Rosneft-$80.1B

    Reliance-$42.2B

    Lukoil-$90.4B


    $1.6 Trillion total revenue

    Do you really think big oil is going to let a few tree huggers get in the way of profits?? Nah. I’m going to be driving my pickup or motorcycle to my job as a truck driver and then pull my bass boat to the lake on my days off for years to come. Enjoy your vegan lifestyle without a climate controlled home. Me? I’m eating meat 3X/day, drinking 18 year old single malt and smoking sweet Cohibas until I am three days dead, leaving nothing but scorched earth when I’m gone.
     
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    No, I gave an opinion concerning the problem. I called no one anything. Don’t change my words, whether you feel they are right or wrong, they are printed as written for all to see. And I maintain that no one ever forced an addict to take up his muse. They all went willingly.
     
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    It's nothing to do with free speech. If copyright laws were enforced the free porn sites would disappear.

    Only someone with a credit card would be able to view it.

    You would have to spend your money and your favourite porn star would finally receive some money from you.
     
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    And the ones with the Keyholders shouldn't be needing to masturbate at all. I was honestly surprised to find so many porn defenders on a site that is female first.
     
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    No, you are mistaken. First even if copyright laws were enforced (which is impossible with the internet as it is which RangerCuck states) there will still be loads of amateurs who uploads free porn. Porn, due to demand, would still be very cheap and not a problem to afford.
    Second there are many other payments methods than credit card.
     
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    I must have somehow misinterpreted the following sentence you wrote.

    “My opinion remains addiction is a personal problem for the weak and stupid.”

    Seem to me you are calling people that suffer with addiction weak and stupid. Maybe I just can’t comprehend what I am reading must be I am stupid also.

    Or maybe you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about when it comes to addiction. Seeing as your family has suffered with addiction, maybe it is time you base your opinion from an educated position instead of one of ignorance. Do you know that approximately 85% of all opiate prescription in the world are written in the United States? People went to their Dr’s and were given these extremely addictive drugs and people took them because they trusted them. I can’t tell you how many of the addicts I have worked with started out with a prescription. And once that addiction takes hold it’s makes no difference if you are smart, dumb, pretty, ugly, fat, or thin. It will take you down to the lowest of lows and you will do things you never fathomed you would do. You will steal from your loved ones, you will sell your body, you will do almost anything for that next high. Because without that drug your body feels like it is being ripped apart limb by limb it’s the flu times 1000. And as you spiral down the path of addiction and steal and sell your body you are creating emotional scars that will never heal these scars fuel the addiction more and more. It’s a vicious cycle.

    You have called your grandchild a weak, stupid, needle freak that has been in recovery for over a year. I would say that that grandchild is the probably strongest person you probably know, capable of doing what many struggle for years trying to do! Many never get a chance for a life in recovery they die on the streets drowning in their addiction.

    You can stay ignorant if you want and continue to be part of the problem or you can decide to educate yourself on the issue and be part of the solution that’s up to you. Our country has been has been using your model of thinking for over 50 years and we have seen the problem only get worse. When we show compassion and empathy for these people’s problems and give them hope we actually see much higher success rates.
     
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    Well, I’ve made a critical mistake here. I’ve allowed myself to get drawn into an argument with others over puritanical garbage. This site used to be a lot of fun with tons of relative info, a few kinksters, several romantics and even the occasional fantasist who could spice the place up. It was more about the sex life of those who enjoyed chastity. The femdom was here, but in limited doses and even the trannies could keep things light and lively.
    Today it feels oppressive and heavy handed. I didn’t come here looking for the darkness of everyday real world problems. It was a place to leave those things behind for a while and share the fun. Now there is an atmosphere of pure femdom, male inferiority, the evils of accessibility and the politics of the poundmetoo movement, none of which I give a fudge about. Damn.
     
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    Bye bye!
     
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    No you made some ignorant comments that have been proven to be destructive to many lives, and instead of trying to learn from people you are turning tail and running. I feel bad for closed minded people like yourself.
     
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    My porn viewing has never changed because I grew up in a time before the internet or the steady stream of videos. Porn for us was reading if one wanted to watch it on super8 and no sound good for them. Nothing against anyone who watches it but no story no plot and 5 to 15 or so mins your done and its forgotten. I found with the reading, story, plot and a lot more than a few Minutes and characters you could understand and feel for. Mistress always has called me a book worm because it is a passion when buying our new home there had to be a basement for the Dungeon and a room for all my books porn and not porn. One of my many favorites was one of the first I bought and out of print for years called The Story Of Q A male version of the Story Of O Thank you.
     
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    #93 sixofthebest, Feb 28, 2019
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    Things at home have picked up quite a bit since the cage (and what it represents) went on. Consumption of porn has diminished to practically zero, and P is the focus of my desire.

    Having said this, and having worked among researchers at an R1 institution in the Midwest for 15 years, I will share three observations. First, in areas outside of hard sciences, for every well-conducted study that concludes A, there is an equal and opposite well-conducted study that concludes -A. In other words, Anyone can find anything in the legitimate academic journals to support anything. Second, as humans setting out to conduct research, we are always carrying our biases with us and it is rare that these biases don't show up in study results. As much as we want to fly the "unbiased research study" banner, particularly in the socio-psychological and other soft and non-science arenas, bias is always there to some degree. Third, and this is probably the most volatile of these observations, is that research outside of the hard sciences can easily amount to academic welfare. It used to be "Publish or Perish." Universities now dearly rely upon research funding for day to day operations and the new mantra is "Bring in those research dollars or else." "Else" depends upon whether one has attained tenure. Did you know that most R1 universities charge their researchers between 50% and 60% of every research dollar they are awarded for overhead? So what happens here is that researchers fish for research topics that are front burner with granting agencies. The research is often conducted in a way to cause it to be prone to producing results the researcher thinks or knows the granting agency wants to see so the next award can be within reach. This is a recipe for dogma. One can see how this skews study results. Sadly, this means that much of the research being done today is not in search of truth, it is in search of dollars that keep researchers employed and universities afloat. These are hands on, from the inside observations. Don't believe me? Ask your undergraduate kid how many of his or her classes are taught by a full-time, tenured professor. Get your answer and follow the trail from there.

    Bottom line? I don't trust much of what the research mills produce. When someone begins a statement with "research shows ..." I immediately get out my grain of salt.

    Now, Miss L-U-C-Y, many of us have been very bad boys carrying on like this. Where shall we report for our spankings, lines, and corner time? :)
     
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    Report to your wives.
     
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    #95 L-u-c-y, Feb 28, 2019
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    I don't have anything against porn, unless people are forced into making degrading porn by circumstances.

    I think unlimited free porn of all varieties is not a good thing.

    If you want porn so much you should pay for it. This will also help a lot in keeping it out of the hands of kids.

    I also against political correctness.
     
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    It's the kids that need to be protected.
    I thought I would try and show how harmful porn is but seems the men here are scared of anyone taking their porn away.

    I was exposed to video porn at a very early age and I am sure it did harm to me (it was a video tape). I know I became addicted to porn. How do I know? Because it was very difficult to stop.

    I will just leave this here:

    pron.jpg
     
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    Thank you, Miss. I shall show her your note!
     
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    BINGO! This guy simply refuses to take responsibility for his actions, and is blaming something else. Happens all the time. Next......
     
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    Porn is what it is. It would be great if it wasn't free but there's no way that that's going to happen. Like music and TV/movies, if there's a way to get it free you can guarantee people will!

    Porn addiction is just that, an addiction. People have drug and alcohol addictions, which are a bit harder to come by (but easy enough if you're an addict), but people also have sugar addictions, fast food addictions etc, all of which are very much readily available and can have considerable impact on your health. The point is, too much of anything is a bad thing. You can become addicted to basically anything.

    I get the whole 'protect the children' mantra. The internet has given a platform for keyboard warriors which has led to the cyber-bullying phenomenon. Kids now get bullied outside of school, at all hours and it's harder to escape. It's not just kids - August Ames (pornstar) committed suicide as a direct result of bullying she received online. And there's so many reports in the news about kids doing it too. And yes, the internet also gives kids access to porn, and other things. And this might be controversial, but isn't it up to parents to parent their children and educate them on the dangers of this sort of thing? And schools to also educate kids on this sort of thing?

    But.......it's not just the internet. The internet has definitely made everything more available, but all it's really done is amplify things that already existed, both good and bad.
     
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    Here here! Excellent points.
     
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