The Future of Chastity

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    So let's try to put some numbers on this. There are about 60 million married couples in the US. Add in the couples who are serious but not married and we get maybe 75 million. How many of those have been playing around with chastity for at least a few months? Maybe 75,000? One tenth of one percent? How many couples not now in chastity do you guess would stick with it if they tried it? One tenth of that 75 million, or 7.5 million? Do those numbers look reasonable? They look OK to me, not that I know.

    If they or anything like them are right there is a huge untapped, unexploited market out there for the technique. What can we do to spread the word? Or is the word being spread already, autonomously?? Note that adoption has a positive acceleration -- the more people start playing with chastity the more "normal" it will look and the more will start. I think. Thoughts??
     
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    It’s hard to say what the numbers could be, but I do believe it is becoming more “normal” in a sense. Most people still haven’t heard of it, but I have been seeing it come to light in places I wouldn’t expect. The main issue I see with how it’s portrayed to those that may not know about it is that it comes off as the male being a sissy, cuck, homosexual, weak, etc. They fail to mention that it can be for a primarily vanilla relationship and the benefits it can have on relationships if it’s used correctly.

    I hope that with time, those points will come more into light. I am excited for the day that wearing a chastity cage is seen as just another thing that someone does and not necessarily seen as kinky
     
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    Looking at the number of members on different chastity sites, and using the average of 20% of the population using internet speciality media sites, with more men use these sites than women, and the fact these sites are international, I would guess the number of couples engaging in chastity is between 80,000 and 100,000 worldwide which would be less than .001%
     
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    Good point. So do you see that ever changing? And if you do can you say why it might? The portrayal you mention here seems pretty basic. What real man would lock up his genitals? Real men want to give their cock as much freedom as possible. That's the attitude you are pointing to and I totally get it.
     
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    Yes I believe that’s the attitude most people that don’t know about chastity might have towards it upon hearing about it. I think that as it becomes more popular, and people “knowing someone that does it” it will become less of a taboo to those that don’t know about it and may become a curiosity for them. Not necessarily in the sense that they want to try it, but in the sense that they want to understand why someone would choose to do it. I think in order for them to get the perception that it can be to strengthen relationships there would have to be a credible source they can access that would show why and how it’s helpful, because most things you find right now would just confirm their preexisting beliefs.
     
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    We've had threads on numbers before.

    Get on some of the BDSM forums and sex shops websites and you'll see chastity is growing. Look at porn sites and you'll see more of it in videos. Talk to gay people and see how it's much more popular than 10 years ago.

    Getting accurate numbers is impossible, even getting good estimates is hard. But it's clear that chastity isn't some obscure kink anymore,

    As for your numbers, you're way low. There are easily over a million folks in the US alone who play with chastity. And I suspect it's larger.

    Granted most chastity devices are worn a few times then put away either to be never used or only used occasionally. But some but many devices. Likewise, some try it and never do it again, some do it occasionally and some it becomes a lifestyle.

    Go to a ClubFem or other Fem Dom group and you probably find most of the ladies have made their subs wear a chastity cage. Look into the gay BDSM community and you'll find it very popular.

    So I ask you why are you interested in numbers? And why did you not even include single people? Where did you come up .01%?

    Like pegging, I think you'll find if you talk to people more will admit to trying chastity than you'd ever guess. And while not as mainstream as pegging chastity play is growing.

    FYI I've been into BDSM for coming up on 3 decades. I've been on this site almost from the beginning. And I've been involved with these communities in multiple locations. So I have seen it grow in popularity.

    To me it's more fun to meet other guys into chastity than worry about numbers.It's more fun to meet women like a friend of mine who has several guys liked up. And it's really exciting to meet young folks getting into it. And yes I love numbers as I'm an engineer and history buff.
     
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    A real man doesnt strengthen his relationship. He looks for another woman if he wants to.
    We chastes arent normal and real men.
    We are full of kink.

    The whole chastity thing is just a kink.
    Sure it has effects on a relationship and the libido.
    But I believe it is less the chastity itself thsn the will of the chaste to change something. Or even to get his own will fulfilled.
    I read very often FLRs are just another word for femdom-marriages. And it is just uses not to look to pervy and to be fashion somehow.
    And I have to admit that this is true. I only know FLR couples who finally got into femdom, BDSM and spanking and so on.
     
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    What?
    A "real man" doesn't strengthen his relationship?
    What rock do you live under?
    Actually only real men do this. The Neanderthals that you describe don't. And move from relationship to relationship.

    FLR is older and more common than you'd ever imagine. And most have nothing to do with sex, kinks or anything but relationship dynamics. Go to any major city's Italian neighborhood. See the tough guy acting all macho. What him closely. Listen to him carefully. Then do the same with his wife. See who really runs the home. Go to a car dealer or furniture store. What who decides what's bought.

    Now FLR in our lifestyle is usually a bit different. But it's related to the above. And it has similar elements.

    I know I sound like I'm being harsh to you. But I'm just trying to say your views are a bit off. Spend more time learning and you'll see the world is much more complex than you think. And even are little part of it has many aspects.

    So FLRs can be vanilla or they could be crazy like the Cybelians.
     
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    No problem. I dont see your comment as harsh.
    The first paragraph, which you are referring to, was meant sarcastic. But sometimes this can be missed.

    I am often in italy, but never met people like you are describing. They are much more temperamentful than others and swear and whine a lot of course.
    My sister on law always is loud and commands everybody. Very loud.
    Her husband is also acting like loud person and as a macho.
    And he really is one.

    But I am sure there are normal, kinky, vanilla, and cybelian people down there in italy.

    But FLR for sure is kink and one way to describe something, that isnt "normal".
    Or why would you have to describe it as something special? Why do you have to highlight the FEMAL LED if is so normal. Because it isnt.

    I think you are just mixing apples with cucumbers and try to make them to look like peaches.
     
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    Chastity is NOT a panacea that will make the worlds marital relationships better. Hell for most couples out there it won’t make their sex life better (especially if there already having great sex. Chastity is a fetish. An awesome fetish all by itself for some and part of a wider D/s or bondage fetish for others. That’s the reality as I see it.
     
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    My standard for progress on this issue is the understanding of therapists and counselors. A world in which those professions understood chastity and had no reluctance about recommending it to their clients would be a much better one.
     
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    That's a good measure, I think! My wife and I brought up our chastity practice with a Christian sex therapist who was providing us coaching (i.e. not a formal counseling relationship). She had not heard of male chastity devices before, but gave the general guidance that she didn't see any red flags as long as it did not become a dependency and that we were both approacing it from a healthy place. I think this is analysis that should be done on a case-by-case basis by couples with their own counselor/therapist, but the more therapists who are aware of it the better!
     
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    this is also my way of thinking,
     
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    Lots of people on this site talk about the practice in other terms. They say they use it as a way of moving their relationships to a more desirable state -- more intimacy, usually. A way of controlling habits they want better control of, like masturbation. I agree that there absolutely are people here who would have no hesitation in admitting to being fetishists but if they are in a majority it is not overwhelming.

    Ultimately the two perspectives blend into each other. For me it comes down to numbers. If twenty years from now the number of couples in chastity is still less than 1% I will change my views. If it is more than 10% I will expect you to change yours.
     
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    Thanks for the kind reply.
    I'll respectfully disagree as FLR is more common than many realize. But if you don't believe so that's your choice. I gave a few examples of how it is in many "vanilla" relationships.

    As for terms. The internet has brought about many terms that didn't exist a short time ago.

    I will say, what others do and say doesn't matter as much as what works for us. So I hope you are happy and find what makes you that way. Because that's what really matters!
     
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    Why? I am happy with my life, I don’t require a crowd to validate it. It is after all, a very personal decision.

    Without debating numbers, I do think there is a growing awareness in mainstream media about chastity/abstinence, and FLRs. Just the fact that so many devices are being offered for sale and the number of businesses that are offering them, indicates increased exposure.
     
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    Yes, if the population of chastity users moves up to ten percent in 20 years I may change my view (that would be roughly 1/3 of the number of Americans who self identify as participating in BDSM in large surveys e.g., Psychology today, or 1/5th of the number of women who similarly identify as using a vibrator as part of sex. But I’m going to have to qualify your “many people” statement. Very few women on this site or any other site are promoting chastity play. In contrast women promote vibrators extensively, as well as Shibari and spanking. Chastity is now and will remain primarily a niche male driven fetish. That a very small percentage of fantastic women will indulge and an even tinier percentage will fully embrace. Just my opinion and my wife’s.
     
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    Same to you!
     
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    Can I give a completely different take on chastity and that is technology- what does the future hold - I'm making an assumption of willing participants in chastity.

    I've been drawn to chastity devices for years- started of with CB 3000 and now on reasonably comfortable Chinese cage with integral lock. Shortly going to try 3d printed cage for longer term wear.

    Technology is moving on a pace - Maybe we'll soon see more integrated electonics like GPS tracking, automated timed locking, estim. Maybe even lighter material that can't be cut or easily removed.

    Key thing is that partners aee each happy with chastity as part of the relationship for whatever reason be it power, control, artistic , behaviour modification. Etc

    Just enjoy the kink who else cares whatever anyone else is doing?
     
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    It depends on your sense of what the public interest is and your willingness to advance it.
    Whatever you decide about the fundamental nature of chastity, anybody reading the postings
    here must surely accept that lots of people engaged with chastity feel it has improved their
    relationship. It seems unlikely that the pool of people who would feel this way, and who are
    interested in improving their relationship, is restricted to current membership. And to hope
    that they find what they need seems only good citizenship.
     
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    If you would promote in depth conversations about sex and desire between couples considering marriage. You would have a MUCH larger positive impact on couples than chastity ever will by several orders of magnitude. Chastity is and will remain a great kink for statistically insignificant number of couples.
     
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    I think none of the blue sky cultural stuff people talk about is remotely possible without better chastity tech.

    "Chaste" can never be a mainstream (but minority) dating preference or gender or relationship fix until we have devices that can't be casually removed or defeated.
     
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    You've said yourself that it is psychologically hard to pull out the back. Even without defeatable devices on the market once we are hooked on dopamine, we all want more (meaning less).

    What do you mean by "Blue Sky"
     
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    On the tech front….it seems like the future could bring belts that would inform the keyholder on pull out / removal or even erections while in the cage via App

    seems like this app is in the ball park but not applied to the chastity world….. oh well I can dream
    https://talktoadam.com/adam-sensor
     
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    If every wife, that really gets into the benefits of limiting their partner's orgasms persuaded 2 of their friends this year, and say that number Worldwide starts at 50,000 and doubled yearly, then by 2023 there would be approximately...150,000 more chaste men.
    Then:
    2024 350,000
    2025 750,000
    2026 1,500,000
    2027 3mill
    2028 6mill
    2029 12mill
    2030 24mill
    2031 50mill
    2032 100mill
    2033 200mill
    2034 400mill
    2035 800mill
    2036 1.6 billion
    2037 3.2 billion

    My prediction therefore is that:

    By 2040 the entire male population of the World will definitely be in chastity!*






    This may or may not be true*
     
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