Questions about PA Piercing and Cage

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    I hope this is the correct place to post this. If not, please feel free to move it.

    My wife has had me locked pretty regularly for many months now and she is strongly considering having me pierced for better control. She has caught me pulling out of my current cage a couple of times while in the shower, which I did only to clean. Needless to say she wasn't pleased even though I didn't think I was breaking the spirit of our agreement.

    I think getting a piercing and a cage to match is going to be quite a challenge for me. I am a super grower. When erect, I am about 6.5 inches long and quite thick. When flaccid, I am only about 1 inch long, maybe less. All of the skin that gets stretched out when erect has to go somewhere when I am flaccid. It ends up surrounding the head making it almost look like I am uncut when I actually am.

    I have been wearing the HBS048 from Badass Workroom, which is a pretty small cage. It fits me almost perfectly when I am flaccid but my skin does get all folded up inside the cage.

    That skin will cover my piercing when I get one which I think will make it difficult to put the cage on and for it to be comfortable. I have thought about getting a slightly longer tube than I need so that the PA rod keeps me a little stretched out, longer than when I am just completely flaccid. My fear with this idea is that the constant pull of the PA rod in the piercing will stretch out the piercing and maybe even cause damage. I have never had such a piercing so I do not know if this concern is valid. I am hoping someone with a PA cage can give me some insight into this and some advice.

    Also, how soon after getting the piercing will I be able to wear the PA cage? Will I need to wait for it to be completely healed or can I wear it during the healing process? My wife is hoping for the latter. She is almost giddy with the thought of my "having" to wear the cage for however long it takes to heal.

    I appreciate the help.
     
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    I used a CBR ring with my cage for 4 months while it healed. Should be workable!
     
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    Following, because my second biggest concern is him having access while it heals. I'd like to know if there is a way to keep him secure during the healing process.
     
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    I just saw a thread on this forum about TetherSpout. I had never heard of it before but that sounds wayyyyy more appealing than a PA. I am going to bring it up with my keyholder tonight.
     
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    We've been looking at the tetherspout for a while. He's apprehensive.
     
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    It's not permanent, involves no blood, no real possibility of tearing/ripping unless I force it. I don't really see what's not to like. It appears to be just as secure.
     
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    Just the potential for losing a piece of gear down your urethra, and then the amount of time it will take to remove it for play, then replace it when it's time to put it back on. I want to be able to get him locked in under a minute, or so. And I don't want to have to scrub in to a procedure room every time I remove it for cleaning, then putting it back in. It just seems to be impractical for our style of play.

    I want to get to a point where he can't pull out, but I want him to not be able to touch his own penis for a year or more. I don't want to have to mess with it.

    So we'll probably just get him pierced, eventually. But I told him if we do, I'll never be coming near it with my mouth again. Not appetizing, but I don't think the tetherspout is the right solution for us. I'm glad it is for many others.
     
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    After reading about it for exactly 2.6 minutes, my initial thought was to leave it in during play. If I can size it correctly, it will tuck inside during penetration. I have a lot more to read about. I'm guessing there have been some horror stories.
     
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    I'm sure that would work for some, but I have no interest, really.
     
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    @Madam Darling , is your Lori #2 not secure enough? Can he get out of it?
     
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    He can easily pull out of it and get back in. We sent the ring back to be resized, (she talked him out of his original measurements) and even with the smallest ring he can use, if he uses lube, it's trivially easy for him to get out and back in.
     
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    That's a pity, I thought the glans ring was a viable alternative to PA piercings.
     
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    It may be for some. I'm amazed at what he can escape, easily. We bought a MySteel belt, and even if it's tight enough to cause a bruise around his penis, he's still able to pull out fairly easily.
     
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    Oooh, that should be a great read. Thank you.

    He doesn’t pull out without permission. Once I learned these cages were so easily defeatable, I have him try to escape and get back in so I can see how effective they are.

    If he can escape at all, I’m not in control, he is through his own willpower. And while I can appreciate his efforts, I want to be the one in control, or this process isn’t worth it to me.
     
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    Having gotten a PA in March, I'd highly suggest you get him pierced. He won't want to do anything for a week or two. After that probably won't enjoy it while he heals.

    While waiting for the healing sucks. Going to a ring in the PA really gives a submissive feel. At least for me. And omg it looks so hot.

    in my case we're guaging up then going to decide what device to get.
     
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    I don’t like PAs. At all. I’m very resistant to the idea.
     
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    If you don't like them, then don't do it.
    For many years I was scared of them and it was a hard limit. I don't know when or why it changed. But something happened in the last few years.

    I guess my point was to offer my point of view. That said, I think people should always go with their gut and never force things.

    So push your comfort level, but not too far. Only you know what that is. And if you hate PAs that much then find alternatives.

    Life is too short to not be happy. Enjoy the ride!
     
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    To be clear, I hate the PA piercing, but I recognize it’s probably the only way to have him locked a year at a time without needing release. We would be getting a cage that would allow enough access to clean without needing to be removed.

    I appreciate your thoughts, though.
     
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    I understand.

    It's tough. I don't have an answer. And I know you're not asking. Just stating that as many of us have to figure this out.

    So I guess all I can offer is good luck and May you find a solution that works for you.
     
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    [CYTAT="Pani Darling, post: 555038, członek: 95680"] Żeby było jasne, nienawidzę piercingu PA, ale zdaję sobie sprawę, że to prawdopodobnie jedyny sposób, aby zamknąć go na rok bez potrzeby zwolnienia. Otrzymalibyśmy klatkę, która umożliwiłaby wystarczający dostęp do czyszczenia bez konieczności usuwania.

    Jednak doceniam twoje przemyślenia.[/QUOTE]
    I have had a PA for a long time .. first a few years ago I had a smaller size then we took a break and for over a year I have 8 mm - it took me several months to stretch it to this size - and I recommend a similar size if you plan a cage with the PA option, smaller ones cause discomfort and they can hurt (that's how it was with me). As for healing, it depends on the person (patient but also whoever pierces), my bleeding stopped immediately after piercing .. with sex we stopped a week but I didn't put on the cage right away because I started stretching the hole after a week and then after another, etc. with because I put on a larger earring, it was more difficult .. also the first cage was put on less than 3 months after the piercing, when I jumped from 1.2 mm to 5 mm .. now I have such a cage, it is :) it is very fit - it has a tube inserted into the coil connected to the other with the PA hole (both 8mm), the problem is the excess skin that sticks out in front of the cage, but we plan to circumcise at the beginning of October, which is to maintain better hygiene and thus extend the time without taking it off.
     
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    Soon as I realize that I could pull out while soaking in the tub from my Neosteel Belt the security wish was broken. I got a PA to use with a Lori's #5 and had it modified to replace the Neosteel penis tube. Insuring 100% Security. While waiting for the PA to heal and stretch out to 4ga I opened the drain hole of the Neosteel penis tube so I could run my curved barbell thru. Using a threaded brass rod to thread my CBR thru the drain hole pulling the penis down inside the tube then replacing the brass rod with the ball. Once the front shield is locked there is no access to remove the ball, in turn locking my penis inside the tube with no way to pull out without tearing the PA out, OUCH.
    Once the Lori's showed up and locked on then bolted behind the Neosteel shields I'm 200% stuck. Plus side the Neosteel parts can be unlocked but the Lori's #5 is still locked doing its job but giving me something less to deal with on a daily basis.
    When Tanya going out the Neosteel is locked on helping hide him and making Tanya feel more Feminine. One or both I'm securely not pulling out since being Pierced. Highly recommend, plus the rare times I'm not locked in Chastity, the Barbell reminds me that he's not mine to play with.
    Tanya
     
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    When my wife asked if I needed to unlock to groom or anything, I told her “no, I can pull it out the top and get at everything.” The look of disappointment and astonishment is still vivid. “You can just pull it out?!”

    I explained the squishy nature of the penis, still amazed that men and women are so far off from knowing much about the other sex’s anatomy. I told her the only way that wasn’t possible would be to attach it the the cage with a piercing. She never asked if I would do that, she never asked about pain, after effects, if I wanted that. She simply asked “when can you get that done?”

    Made the appointment the next day and was pierced within days. She went with me(is an hour drive) and took me to Texas Roadhouse afterwards.

    She’s not a big fan of the extra few seconds it takes to get the device off now, but she would never be cool with knowing I could just take it off. Either she is in control or she isn’t, she doesn’t have an in between.
     
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    i came across the tetherspout pretty recently and have been playing with one to see if it could add extra security. I picked one up on Amazon and had read the information on the blog. To be honest insertion and removal don’t seem to be a problem at all. I use exactly the same method described using floss, and although I’ve not timed it, it seems like it just takes a minute to put on and remove. It does feel a bit weird sliding the spout down the urethra- but I’ve never felt like anything might get stuck or lost.

    Once it’s correctly installed it feels uncannily secure and doesn’t feel like it would just pullout.

    The key know is to work out how to use it to increase the security of a traditional cock cage. The obvious would be to padlock it through the end of the cage - but the hole in the tetherspout is very narrow. Originally you could get a tetherspout with a screw thread so you could use a nut at the front - but i haven’t yet seemed to have worked out a good way of making it secure and controllable.
     
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