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    When my wife whipped me today, I got hard and when she wanted to inspect my cage, she saw that the penis was almost out of the cage and asked me to try to pull it out. It worked but I was not able to removed it from the balls.
    I have the original holy trainer v5.
    I know the safest way to go is a PA but that is a red for me.
    She now panicked and wanted me to see if it would help if I replace the cage to a smaller one. Any I put?
    The HT is by far the most comfortable one I have worn and it is also the only one virtually invisible
     
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    I have the small tube. Would a smaller help?
     
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    Without a piercing you can pull out of any cage unless it's inverted or flat maybe. I have no nor want any experience with those. Maybe a tether spout in lieu of a piercing.
     
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    Pullout is a real issue for me, too, though with my usual cage I have to actively pull it out. I started wearing a flatter cage, which I like very much as it is more comfortable for continual wear, in the hope that it would prevent pullout but I found that it allows for even random pullouts, ie: I can wake up in the morning with it out, all by itself. So I'm not sure a smaller cage will help, though I am curious about the inverted cages. It may also be an issue with the ring size, as after being caged for 15+ months at this point, I'm sure things have adjusted somewhat. My hope is to get my PA piercing re-done and eventually go that route.
     
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    The cage size does not matter, you can pull out of any cage. In my view, a PA piercing is the only good solution.
     
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    I modified mine with a small plate that rests on top of cage and abdomen attached with cable ties to ring and the plate held firm against body with a belly chain
    Like a belt but very flexible
    Absolutely no pull out
    I can't push cage away from body nor reach to grip penis to pull it out

    It took 30 mins to make
    Worn for over 5 years now, and it never comes of
    (I never cum either but that's another story)
     
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    You just drill a teenie tiny hole in your teenie tiny penis.....
     
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    All chastity belts are somewhat conditional. In belts without PA, you can pull out the penis. From any. The penis is very flexible. Neither a tight supporting belt around the hips nor an inverted device will help.

    But even in a belt with PA, you'll find that you can fairly easily orgasm. Will this also upset your wife? Yes, you can't pull it out, but you can orgasm.

    Unfortunately, there is no way to deprive a man of the ability to masturbate. Sex - yes, but not masturbation.

    Therefore, a chastity belt should be considered more as an attribute like a wedding ring, and not build hopes that a man can be forcibly deprived of the ability to orgasm.

    Yes, there are ways to make masturbation more difficult for a man by selecting the size of the PA device very accurately. But even in this case, the process will only be complicated, not eliminated. Every 2-3 weeks, or maybe more often, you will still be able to bring yourself to orgasm fairly quickly.
     
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    PA seems to be the way to go if you want to stop pull out, but I'm a little too scared myself.

    I did have a belt I couldn't pull out of, but they are a lot more restrictive in terms of day to day movement and exercise.

    Being caged does make sexual stuff a lot more difficult, but I see it more as a symbol or reminder of being owned, like walking around all day wearing a collar.

    My Wife/Mistress expects total honesty regardless of if she has me caged or not. I did recently have to confess a little accident.
     
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    On the contrary… Apadravya is great too!
     
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    People who already have a hole in their dick always say that its the best solution.

    Its not, tetherspout once fitted properly is just as effective and offers several advantages....like you can pee in a continuous stream is just one example, another is the fact is easy to remove and your back to normal.
     
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    Remember that thoose people did not start out that way, so they have tried both ‘worlds’. Maybe thay know more than people who only tried one ‘world’.

    I know a pircing is not for everybody, but it is the best and most simpel way to prevent pull-out.
     
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    Me and My Queen absolutely love ours. And yes very secure lol.
     
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    I agree. In my case, I am not trying to impose my point of view but rather sharing my experience. Moreover, I understand that PA is a lot of hassle, long preparation, and in the end, just an inability to escape. Everything else will be possible.

    But you asked a direct question and I answered it. This doesn't mean I recommend PA.

    If you are seeking my experience, the result is this. I have tried a huge number of options. You could say that, as an engineer, I was interested in finding such a device that you can't escape from. Otherwise, this game was not interesting to me. I tried small, large devices, sewed special underwear, made inserts inside and on top. But even when the device was pressed to my body so tightly that it was difficult for me to breathe, I still found a way to slowly, millimeter by millimeter, pull the skin out and eventually escape. Only piercing solves this problem.

    But even piercing does not prevent the possibility of having an orgasm.

    At the same time, piercing takes an agonizingly long time to prepare. For example, now that I have decided to return to chastity, the time to order a BA-30 to my size will be 1.5-2 years. First, I need to stretch the piercing to 2g, which takes 0.5-1 year. Then, to accurately know my sizes, I have to wear a cheap Chinese PA device, which takes another 0.5 year. Then order and wait for the BA-30. I am sure this is not suitable for everyone. I think everyone should find the option that suits them best.

    Therefore, I am far from recommending such a complex and long path to anyone. But answering the direct question - can you escape without piercing - yes, you can.
     
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    And another case in point!

    If you tried the tether system and it didn’t work for you then you probably were not using it correctly, that said it won’t work for everyone.

    Maybe learn to spell.

    if you want to put a hole in your dick go right ahead, doesn’t make it any more effective….simple ? Are you kidding me? Tether has virtually no danger of infection, punching a hole in your dick means blood and a danger of infection, tether has no healing time, you can pee standing up, is impossible to pull out, can be removed in under a minute and your instantly back to normal.

    There is simply no advantage to a piercing
     
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    The general consensus here seems to be that a smaller cage really doesn’t fix the problem and that there are two options to consider. Thanks
     
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    There’s not really a risk of infection. Urine is a natural disinfectant so every time you pee you’re cleaning it. And the estimated time for stretching given here is wildly exagerated. Sure it will take a few months to get it really wide but well worth it. Can’t see any downside myself - unless you’re a haemophiliac of course.
     
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    I'll just repeat, I cannot pull out of my modified solution, yes I could cum using a wand if I had access to one, but pull out, no

    I have no reason or need to bullshit about this
    I'm handy with tools
    I made a solution
    Vast statements any belt is escapable need tempering please
    Of course if your dick is tiny it might be a bit more difficult, mines average.
    Oh, tried piercing route.....twice
    Failure times 2...
     
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    What happened???
     
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    I have not been able to pull out of the very small, inverted device that is attached to a steel waist belt.
     
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    I used to think this was true, but a bit of googling shows while its ok to flush a wound with fresh urine in an emergency, it is not a disinfectant. It will not stop an infection.
     
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    Won’t cure an infection, certainly - but will make it very unlikely to occur because the PA wound is being washed far more frequently than any other piercing you can have.
     
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    Thanks for pointing that out, that was very nice of you. By the way english is not my native language, but I will assume you spell perfectly in several languages.
     
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    Per usual the pull out topic has become a shit show lol. The pa people think it's the only way when good old fashioned self control and not doing things you're told not to trumps it all.
     
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    I agree about obedience being the key issue, but some people (including me) like the feeling of being physically trapped. It’s the same with bondage: you could simply be told to keep your hands clasped behind your back, but it wouldn’t give the same feeling; and being told to keep quiet is very different from being gagged.
    Btw: I’m a stickler for using getting the whole subject/object business correct regarding I & me in complex constructions. But in my sentence above it just seemed weird and clunky to say “including I” even though I was including myself in the “some people” that were the subject of “like the feeling”. Was I correct or not?
     
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