Just an update from a very satisfied customer who is wearing his neosteel belt 24/7 without any problems. I have one question however in order to, hopefully, increase further the safety of the belt. I have noticed that, when very aroused (watching porn, or being oraly active with my mistress, having my nipples stimulated when I've been locked for some time) and by the contact of the penis with the tube and the slight movement/sliding inside the tube that is still possible, I can get kind of an orgasm while wearing the belt. It is not a real orgasm as the penis is prevented from becoming fully erect and is still pointing backwards and no hand stimilation is possible, the sperm just starts flowing, but it is still pleasurable, more than being being milked for instance or having a ruined orgasm. Which of course the keyholder and I would want to avoid. I was thinking that perhaps the penis tube is still too big and I should get a smaller penis tube in order to further restrickt erections and movement in the tube. Do you think there are any reasons (medical perhaps) against getting a smaller and much more restrictive tube? If anyone could give me advice for measuring, and if there is no physical damage to fear, I would like to get the smallest tube possible for my built. The question here not being, how low can you go but rather how small can you go... :gen085: Cheers Bathing
bathingcap, I'm sorry I can't give any pat advice here. I can say "me too" with regard to being able to climax in a tube with little stimulation, after an extended lockup. I too think that I need a more restrictive tube. It's a delicate balance because there are times when I have nocturnal erections and need to pee, and a very tight tube makes that difficult (I know from experience). There's nothing worse than sitting on the toilet, having to pee, and being unable because the urine won't go down your urethra. I had experimented with wrapping my penis in tight medical tape to see if I could further prevent erections, and discovered that particular joy! ugh! lol I finally had to kind of pump the urine out by doing kegle-like squeezes. I did that a few dozen times until the pressure relaxed. That helped my erection subside, which then allowed me to finish going. ugh! Anyway best of luck. Keep us posted on how it goes! mikecb
better not tell my mistress about the peeing problems. She's capable of ordering me to place a catheder...mmmhhh must say that just the idea is having some effect down there. Anyway, I sent an email to Mende from Neosteel to get his expert opinion. Will keep you informed. Oh and if any of the future neosteel clients are reading this, don't order the special locking kit. Looks fancy and will cost you top but can be opened with basically two small 0.005 eurocents costing nails. We're changing to the real lock as soon as I get the chance (next visit to Europe, which unfortunately will be somewhere in June or July next year) Maybe even order the new locking pin and ask Mende to DHL it to me. Cheers Bathingcaplovers
Bathingcap, I must admit that I have found the same problem in my arch. After a decent lockup, or if I'm horny enough, the minuscule rubbing I'm capable of in the tube is sometimes enough to set off a half-pleasurable orgasmic dripping. In fact, what's even worse is my wife's hitachi magic wand. The vibrations are so powerful, it can buzz you to the same half-orgasm right through the tube. I have also yet to really find a way to prevent this, aside from will power. It's tough because when super horny and locked, you really want that release, but doing so is not really a good release, and leaves you wanting more, plus giving you the emotional let down. As for the special flat lock, I turned it down from the start for the very same reason. Just looking at the pictures of it, and the key, I knew that I couldn't trust myself with it, and that I'd be able to find anything like paperclips, or nails to open it up when I get desperate. So, I went with the abus lock from the start. It can sometimes be difficult to get everything in place tight enough to snap it shut (which isn't a problem with that other special lock), but the trade-off in security is well worth it. Out of curiosity, which rear style did you go with?
uhhh i did`t know ,, ... i am circumcised my be that makes the different it never happened to me .... i think we all try one way or the other ,, but i have not been sugcessfull... reg.GWENY:slut:
Got a reply from Mr Mende from Neosteel. I'll spare you the flattering remarks on my manlyhood ;-) These are the most relevant quotes: ../.. Nobody will be surprised that a permanent excitement finally results in an ejaculation. It has nothing to do with the penis being fully or partly erect. The increased excitement after some time usually does the trick. How long this will take depends on the individual's "excitability". If it does not happen consciously then it will happen unconsciously during the night which comes out as a so called wet dream. ../.. We took the measurements of your penis here and measured 10.5 cm for the length and 11 cm for the circumference. This means about 35 mm for the diameter. The tube you got has an inner diameter of about 38 mm. The next smaller penis tube has a diameter of about 34 mm. So your penis will probably be squeezed. I do not know if this will result in less ejaculation. But I can imagine that this will result in a reduced blood and lymph flow through your penis. So I would not recommend a smaller tube for your measurements from our experience. ../.. Mr. Mende, in my experience, being a very sensible and wise man, I will not switch to a smaller tube. Oh and Gweny: I'm circumcised too, so doesn't make a difference. Dixie: yes a strong vibrator does the trick too. But I must admit, there is a flow of sperm, and it is not perse a very pleasurable orgasm, it will give some release but after like 30 minutes I'm back where I started...frustrated at being still locked up and horny like hell again hehe. So maybe it's not a bad thing, keeps the pipes from getting clogged ;-) Cheers Bathingcap
Never happened for me either :sign0135: and I'm uncut......I'm guessing Mende is right he says different for different people..
dixiewrecked have a look here, I had a thread about my new Neosteel http://www.chastitymansion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1542
Wow, exactly the same has happened with me. If I rock very roughly on a chair I can stimulate myself enough for an orgasm, and in a similar way this is absolutely NOT what my KH wants. I could do the same in the CB3000 and this was the prime reason for changing to the Neosteel, but unfortunately I have found I can do it again but it is difficult. It also results in rubbing at the base of the penis which has been known to bleed. I too contacted Mr Mende, with the same suggestion that the tube was too big, and would you believe it I received the same reply. My penis is very similar in size to yours and I too have the 38mm diameter tube and in the same way My Mende said the 34mm would be too small. So, how do I get no orgasms without my KH allowing (nightly ones aside)? Well we are hoping to buy a Tollyboy, on which I understand the penis tube is made from a solid piece of metal and can therefore be made to exactly the diameter of the penis. Here's hoping... Claire
I guess it just isn't possible to prevent everyone from having orgasms in chastity devices. For some, it seems to be possible but for others...well, just not possible. I do think Neosteel devices are far more likely to prevent an orgasm than the cb variety though. In my case, the only real solution seems to be regular milkings (which my wife claims are really much as a real orgasm but I know they are significantly different) combined with a secure chastity deevice like Neosteel.
no such chance in a tollyboy not for me anyway my wife had been teasing me and then some then edging me and bang lock on and i have never been so horny in my life [good int it?] and trust me i tried everything i could think of to get pleasure and nothing worked. by the time my wife got back from london i was litteraly shaking with anticipation,hope and fear of her been to worn out to want to play when she got home. she wasnt and it was the best climax i have ever had
The problem is in the rigidity of the tube. There are two things: friction and vibrations. Even when you have made to measure tube your penis can get more "relaxed" over time making some new room in the tube. It doesn't have exact dimensions - it's not a bone. So from long time perspective you can't get guaranteed exact fit. And even if you could the material (hard plastic or steel) well transfers vibrations. So orgasm is possible for a lot of people while locked. Very individual thing is how much pleasure you get from it. I personally can get very satisfying orgasm even with restricted erection. The only solution I can think of is to put a penis in some very soft material that will move with it and won't transfer vibrations and won't put too much pressure on it. Something like soft silicone. This kind of thing uses Latowski. Practical problem with this is that it would be very bulky. But if you are domestic slave similar design is one of the most frustrating you can conceive. Imagine having your penis 24/7 locked inside of a fleshlight