Poll! Chastity and double standards.

Discussion in 'Female led relationships' started by Mandynjack, Dec 28, 2017.

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Should caged males be allowed to view Female nudity?

Poll closed Jan 4, 2018.
  1. No! Double standards are a key part of the chastity lifestyle.

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  2. Yes, but only with consent from my Mistress/Wife/GF/KH.

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  3. I don't need anyones permission to view anything.

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  1. Thatguyontheinternet
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    My wife doesn’t mind me seeing nudity at all. In fact we fairly often watch adult stuff together. She shows me things she likes, and vice versa. She just doesn’t want me watching anything that encourages my old dominant behavior.

    As far as seeing her naked - we were just talking about this as I think she was responding to a similarly themed comment a bit ago. She’s said many times that a huge part of what she loves about keeping me locked is how ravenous it makes me for her. She lives when I grab her intensity as if to throw her down and take her but instead the inability to do so makes me literally grit my teeth and, eventually, if it’s been long enough, whimper for her. Drives her wild. And i suppose i should be thankful that she sees my viewing her nudity with pent up desire and touching her with same as a turn on. It’s part of keeping the focus on her rather than elsewhere.

    She’s mentioned MANY times that she wants to get a good hood, and she very often makes use of blindfolds. But not when she’s having me give her PIV. Well sometimes but not normally. Those items seem mostly reserved for times where she’ll be putting me through something intense or that i might otherwise recoil from.

    I have noticed however that a lot of people into cuckolding follow similar strict policies wherein the male isn’t to view the KH naked etc. Just an interesting observation.
     
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    >i kinda have to question the comment of calling it a burden...
    Arent 2 people involve?
    Arent we doing this for both people
    For the couple..
     
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    I clicked on the with permission option. None of us watch porn often, the cost to reward ratio is pretty crap. Tonight we watched Ice Age 3, I don't think squirrels in love counts very high on any porn meter!

    That said, there's no ban for any of us. We are more concerned about reality than virtual, but if a bit of screen time works for one of us, that's cool.

    Jane
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    Again I agree with this statement without buying into the notion that the female form not be viewed as a part of the relationship. If she banned it, then it would be banned. Currently there are things I am supposed to do and not supposed to do. When I fail I come clean and they get added to my punishment list. I could see her say banning porn and I would endeavor to follow that ban and inevitably at some point fail and be punished. This would encourage me to not watch porn until the stings fade and the horniness returns and then fail again.

    I think banning viewing females in nude or near nude states would feel like a level of micromanaging to her as she has to define what's OK and what's not. Is a bikini OK? Is Cercei Lanisters walk of shame in game of thrones off limits? If we visit an art museum can I not look at paintings that contain nude or near nude women? If I open the mailbox and the Victoria Secret catalog is sitting there, did I cheat? I think practically this would just be too difficult and onerous for both of us to try and navigate. This has inspired me to ask her about her feelings on me watching porn, but I doubt she'd see the practical wisdom in the broader ban you and Jack follow.
     
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    Why is the banning of viewing nude females not for the couple?
    From my Lady´s view this is education in sensible consuming of media in general. My view is that she is right.
    Actually the reason me being kept in chastity is not very different to this. All for the couple......

    I think,@Mandynjack wrote her reasons and I understand them very well.
     
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    My comment was in refetence to the term burden in their sentence
     
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    Oh, sorry :oops:, you´re right, my fault!
     
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    giggling, no probs
     
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    I can see where such a ban could take things to the extreme, so to add further context; viewing for the male's sexual gratification is the baseline. To help further, viewing starts and finishes. It starts with noticing, so no fail there, it continues either as eyes averted, no fail, or progression to staring/oggling, this is a fail. The truly committed male should self regulate and be grateful that it has experienced an initial viewing/peripheral notice, but then appropriately avert its eyes. Art is not included unless the male receives sexual gratification from it, then I would expect its self monitoring instinct to prevail. Same for catalogues in the mail, dramatic TV/film scenes. If the male is in a continual state of sexual arousal irrespective of environment, then either laugh, or wonder, but have fun.
     
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    Though she insists on absolute control my decades of reckless sex with men and dozens of infidelities with women gave her little choice. So it is a burden in that sense.
     
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    I don't have a keyholder so I will look at what I want.if I had a Mistress/keyholder I would do what made her happy.
     
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    ok, i see,..
    so make it not ..:confused:o_O
     
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    The nature of the power exchange for each and every relationship on this site will vary in different degrees. From wanting and consenting to your partner controlling every aspect of your life and relationship wih permanent denial ...to mild light chastity play where all is mere suggestion.

    So whether or not anything is to 'be allowed' by your KH or indeed vice-versa rather depends on the dynamic of each individual relationship and to what extent each of you respect the others' wishes.
     
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    Interesting poll, whilst it is true that double standards are a big part of chastity my wife does find it amusing to see me strain in my cage with no possibility of relief. Of course I must then be punished or have my chastity sentence extended for being allowed to look under her supervision.
     
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    My wife likes to make we watch her beautiful body nude and is very happy when I adore her, knowing that me being caged will not put any pressure on her for any further sex activities..unless she wants.

    We are not in a FLR, but in the bedroom (or any other place involving sex for that matter) she decides and we are both fine with that.
     
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    Well it s up to the couple and the type of agreement they come up with.

    If you are like me and accept the inferiority of males and the Superiority of Females and that males should submit unconditionally to the Superior Sex, the it is TOTALLY Mistress/Owners call!

    If an inferior male disobeys, he should immediately report his infraction and await punishment.
     
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    I am allowed to watch whatever I like for now. She prefers that I watch bi sexual with mmf scenarios. At the end of the I can watch whatever I like but no masturbating. So I can frustrate myself all I like but it will be to no avail.
     
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    Ok, the votes are in! So, what can we tell/surmise/deduce etc. I'm sure all will have their own interpretation, but allow me to offer;
    Really good to see that 85% indicated that they would only view nude females if their superior being consented, 10% live by their own perception that they are not entitled to view, irrespective of the female's right to do as she pleases, but the interesting on is the 26%! I would not dream of being presumptuous to the genesis of this stat, but I will throw in; even though caged and male sexual gratification has been delegated to the female to decide if/when, I retain my rights to view WTF i want. Hmm! So how female led does that sound? Always happy to see/read your perspectives. Enjoy xx
     
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    I and only I alone decide what @Bobbisissysub can see on the internet on pornography. The sissy may not decide for themselves when and what to see.
    It amuses me to see that bobbi is excited but can not touch herself or mastrubate
     
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    I have such a big mouth when it comes to porn hups....

    I totally agree with Mistress Mandy here ( I hope that gets me out of trouble). I have to write in a diary every day what i have done, what has turned me on and if I have broken any rules that we have set out. She chooses when she wants me to read the diary out to her but it could happen any time. I can obviously lie in this diary but I have learned that It is good for me to be able to look back and regulate myself. As I have previous stated Porn is a problem for me, I do want to totally stop sexually objectifying woman to be totally and be porn free, so being able to check where I failed and where I succeeded is a great insight into what makes me tick. I do worry though if she decided soon to read the whole thing :mad::mad: I try to always be honest when I talk to her but sometimes I am very embarrassed about my transgressions those embarrassments are recorded in the diary.
     
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    I missed the poll due to how busy my life has been over the past month or so, but I would have voted for the only with consent from my Wife option. I see the question split into two areas. First there is her own nudity, second there is female nudity in pornography.

    Elle, my Wife, has a similar feeling towards her own nudity as @Thatguyontheinternet mentioned.

    I have read how other females ban their subs from seeing them nude but this is not what Elle is interested in at all. She loves the response I have to her nudity, especially when she has denied me any release for more than a few weeks. There was a moment when she got out of the shower and covered herself with a towel. This slipped, completely innocently, and although I had been in the shower with her, completely nude, the sudden glimpse of one of her nipples had an immediate reaction on my male anatomy. I was transfixed. She noticed, started playing with her nipple and drove me wild.

    As for porn, Elle and I have discussed this topic from a slightly different perspective, namely the Why do locked boys watch porn thread. Her thoughts on the matter were she wouldn't stop me but she did wonder why on earth I would want to do it in the first place. I cannot masturbate, I have promised not to, and porn is singularly designed to facilitate masturbation. It is therefore redundant.

    If she banned me from looking at nude females then I would do as I was instructed. It is the same as anything else she has banned me from, or any other directive. If I was to cheat what would the point of us being in an FLR be? It would be just as bad as saying I wanted her to lock me up but then taking the device off behind her back to masturbate. It would also put the future of our relationship at risk.
     
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    Sounds presomturous, doesn't it ? But truth to tell it's closer to reality than thinking one could forbid someone looking at women in any state of nudity. Even at primetime you can see some in TV without expicitly searching for it - not speaking about a public sauna. Having a vivid imagination the most funny ridiculous thing is forbidding the partner to see one naked... How should this work when you are living together ? Seperate bedrooms, clothing rooms and baths ???

    But at least in regard to female nudity double standards are no topic for us anyway. She would be even fine with me watching porn if it would be some topic for one of us. She got enough enough self-confidence and knows enough of the business of sexworkers through a friend to feel degraded or jealous by it. Why should she anyway ?
    Apart from that it's even fun for her making me watch her and a friend of hers - and not only after putting me into a ktb...

    And even if this thread already is quite interesting I would find it rather more interesting in what other double standards there are for certain couples....
     
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    He sees me nude sometimes when I require him to service me. Just because he's being denied doesn't mean I'm denied.

    If I use the Points of Intrigue, I'll let him see female nudity, since I want the Points to make their point.

    Sometimes during supervised masturbation, I have him look at female nudity.

    It depends on the wants and needs of the Keyholder. I decide when and if he sees female nudity.
     
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    I just joined CM, so I missed the poll, but I would have picked the second option. My KH is in another country from me, so she allows me to use nudity as an edging tool, and as a tease & denial. I don't view porn, just art nudes, or what I would call glamour nudes.
     
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    Sorry, but most males can still masturbate while locked with basic cages, if they want to. They should not be allowed to watch porn unsupervised.
     
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