Part 5 ~ The best thing about the future is it only comes one day at a time...

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    At risk of stating the obvious, that's a crappy way to start 2009. What you did sounds brilliant and most of us locked subs would love to experience that situation. Posts like these are very insightful as I see a lot of what I have put my Mistress through. I'm probably clutching at straws here but I'll try to talk from my own experiences and maybe I'll hit some common ground.

    As a male sub myself I've wanked myself daft thinking about the most extreme of sexual perversions; when I'm giving myself direct sexual contact and "directing" these scenes they are extremely hot. Confronted by the reality, especially for the first time can lead to a lot of unexpected emotions like frustration and even anger. The first couple of times Mistress tied me up it ended in a blazing row, we've thrown the CB away deeming never to use it again, She still has not whipped me in six months since I snatched it off her and refused punishment when I felt she was unfair.

    I think that the level of pet's fantasies are way beyond what he can take as reality - for now - and that's pretty normal for many of us. Maybe the way forward is to slow down a bit and move into this lifestyle in stages. For example, maybe stage one could end with pet wearing the chastity device on a more or less permanent basis (obviously with releases for cleaning and cumming). Taking time at this stage will allow pet to get into the mindset and relax. Once that's working move on to another, maybe obedience or housekeeping. Breaking things down and moving slowly toward the lifestyle that Mistress wanted worked for us, well has had some success, I'm still miles away from what she wants me to be, I understand that.

    If pet refuses all things femdom then what can you do? I suspect that he has just made a knee-jerk reaction out of fear that he is failing and not accepting that a femdom relationship is always going to favour what you want over what he wants. It seems obvious but often I don't get it and struggle with it and I suspect pet may be the same. And if you're reading - go on pet lock on that CB and show your Mistress that you believe in her!
     
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    Mistress Watchful, do not give up!
    When I was younger and even more stupid than now(?), I did this kind of rebellion. It was a rebellion mostly towards myself! I throw away homemade bondage stuff, high heels, a very nice corset, latex hoods, skirts, blouses. I throw it all away!
    I made the decision to leave that kind of kinky submissive sexlife and be a real normal man! Did it work? No! Of course not. After a week or two the fantasies started again. If your pet is hardwired to be a sub like me he will come back, asking for more... Then is the time for communication of realistic games, what you both want and the limitations.

    You just have to wait... be a little patient. It is not your fault.
     
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    Now that I'm in a slightly better frame of mind I will try to respond to everyone's posts in a more collected manner!

    I really really appreciate everyone's response.

    I know I'm not supposed to apologise, but I really am sorry that I'm such a drama queen sometimes.

    It's difficult to remember that these things take time, and in the heat of the moment it's easy to lash out.

    pet has gone to do the weekly shopping, I've hardly seen him today, I think he's hiding... and I don't blame him! :anim_35:

    I have been shopping again! I found the rose flogger down from $250 yesterday to $200 today! So I sent them an email to quote for shipping and I will probably buy it. It'll make a neat decoration if nothing else. :heart:

    So here goes... sorry if I miss anyone out in the process.
     
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    I know, that's part of what gets to me... other people would LOVE this, but pet/charlotte doesn't. 2 options here. I either don't do it, or I use it as punishment.

    I'm not sure that it's something I would want charlotte to do regularly anyway. I think if I'm not satisfied and I want to be licked out, then that's charlotte's fault not for taking care of my needs first.

    I think this was the crux of the problem. I really felt I'd made a huge step and felt comfortable with my actions, but instead of being a quivering puddle of submission, charlotte was just disgusted.

    Thinking about it now, I can see that charlotte felt she was being punished without reason and may therefore feel resentful over the whole episode.

    I was just trying to assert myself and my power over charlotte. In some ways I think I have done this. charlotte knows I will now push her to do these things, whereas before I have backed down.

    Thank you, that's really thoughtful. Either charlotte will be turned on by the visual stimulation, or it may help her realise that this is really not something she wants to do, but must take as a punishment if required.

    In hindsight (marvellous thing!) I do think that I could have ended this much better if it had been at an appropriate time. I would have made charlotte kneel and apologise for whatever she was being punished for, and make her realise that this is what would happen in the future if she messed up again.
     
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    Today dollyanne, I agree with you, and I'm sure I will try again but only using cum-eating as a punishment (at this time!)

    I think if charlotte is sensible she will make sure she at least tastes a small amount of cum if she should ever get the opportunity to masturbate. Hopefully she won't... but it will be something I think should be ingrained to cross her mind if ever she finds herself alone and in the company of a sticky cum puddle! (I'm a bad girl... I shouldn't have done this... I should at least taste some of it as punishment.[/QUOTE]

    You're right, these are great ideas. charlotte wouldn't normally cum before me but given the odd situation we had been in during the weeks before this renewed sexual activity, a lot got lost in the spontaneity!

    Thank you, dollyanne, for your thoughtful replies. You have been a great help.
     
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    And don't we know it!!! Sometimes it's a good thing, but sometimes I find it very hard to tell you all what is going on. If I put these things out there in the public, I think it destroys any fantasies any of you ever had about me!!! Lol Maybe that's not a bad thing afterall!

    Thank you. I told pet I would be "odd" for a couple of days. There are still times when I have a knot in my stomach and really REALLY need to cry... pet didn't realise how much this all meant to me, and neither did I. Then sometimes I try and shake myself and say "this is only one part of our life" (and then I realise it's a really important part for me! :mad0235:)
     
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    I know, I know... yes I'm awful, yes apparently I'm reasonably attractive, yes I know... confidence is more important than looks.... shall I go on?! :sad0137:

    This is a huge *me* problem that I need to deal with. When pet and I first me he made me feel 110% amazing. I literally oozed sex and self confidence on a daily basis. Not sure what happened... another baby maybe? She is so perfect and gorgeous and adorable, let's face it... she's the #1 female around here now.

    I admit to the hood thing. It's a great help though! pet has a hood fetish and I don't need to hold my stomach in! :jumping0036:

    I promise to work on my health and self confidence this year, and god help the world when it is sorted! :sex020:
     
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    I owe you an apology for my snappy comment!

    You are completely correct, yes pet does need discipline and I need to decide how and when it is appropriate. (see my comments above to dollyanne)

    I think cum-eating will be great for discipline. In fact, I think that is a good enough reason to not expect charlotte/pet to do it on a regular basis... the shock would wear off if she got used to the taste!

    I do have urges towards whipping/caning/spanking, and I do think this is something I will train pet to enjoy... simply because I want to, and I know I will enjoy it!
     
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    Thank you lauren. You talk great sense, and you also are correct, there are more important things than D/s (I keep repeating this, but I'm not sure if I believe myself!)

    It should be the icing on the cake, but I do want it to be more. Yet again I am trying to run before I walk... I believe we will get there. I also believe I need to be a lot calmer in assessing these situations.

    This life is not something I want to let go of, but I also do not want to force pet into it if it no longer pushes his buttons.

    Some bits do push his buttons... I know they do, and I know at the moment he doesn't feel he "deserves" them. I'm pretty sure if I were to incorporate more of these perveries into our sex life, he would be back on his knees in no time! :anim_46:

    I also do not think he was testing me. He was utterly disgusted. I could tell! Lol He was in shock.
     
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    Thank you, and yes, I hear you on the communication and patience comment. Communication I can do, patience... not a virtue that was thrown my way!!!

    I agree, but pet is really having a hard time deciding what he wants. I know he wants to serve, but I do see that he is not into certain submissive fantasies... namely pain and a certain degree of humiliation. I think I can work round these. The rest will come with time... I'm confident in that. He's still young! :happy0195:

    I know... I'm a selfish, unthoughtful, greedy cow aren't I! :sad0147:

    Yes, our sex life was great before all this started, and I know that I can introduce whatever kink I want and it will be tried once... I would like to remind you at this point that it wasn't *me* who wanted to be a Mistress!!!!

    I do think pet needs to live with the consequences of creating a monster! :innocent0002:
     
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    Thank you. Yes, it has looked from time to time as if I was only doing things that were "expected" of me, and I did for a while... but that is no longer the case.

    Thank you, that means a lot to me. The image I have for myself as a future Dominatrix is the "pink, caring, but confident and cruel" one!!! Twisted is my middle name!

    I agree. Confidence is hugely lacking in this house! I know he contemplates on a daily basis why on Earth I chose him. Truth is, he isn't perfect, neither am I, but I love him to death and don't intend ever being with anyone else (without his consent or him being there!!!!):manga_angel:

    Again, wise words. Yes, we need to get back into chastity. pet tried the Lori device again last night with no luck. It is going to be much too problematic for our needs, and I do expect to sell it in the not-too-distant future.
     
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    I hardly think you're going to destroy the guys' fantasies MW ! In fact clearly there are several wishing it had been them.

    I think most dommes (other than professionals perhaps) are, at times, going to have 'weak moments' - but that's what our subs love about us. It brings it home to them how hard we work at it and how, for most of us, it doesn't come naturally at all.

    Here's something to pick you up - I don't get to use Cobweb's laptop as he uses it for work. I know he uses our home computer to visit 'sites that interest him' on the internet but I've always wondered if he used the work one too. Thought perhaps not as he might be bothered about traceability etc. One evening early into our chastity play, I walked into the room to surprise him - dressed to tease. It certainly surprised him & he immediately pressed another button to change the screen. I took him upstairs and cuffed him to the bed and said I'd better go back & look at what he had thought was too secret for me to see. He wouldn't tell me the password and I eventually got it - not by giving him a good whipping but by promising to do so ! (At that stage we hadn't really gone in for any of that). You know what I'm going to say don't you - when I typed in the password up popped a picture of you ! When I 'backed' there were several others he had been browsing. I've always been fairly jealous & his first proper whipping left him none too keen to repeat the experience. I decided I would keep it back for serious punishments & he hasn't had once since - come close a time or too.
     
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    It's a bit of a difficult one isn't it!!!???

    I do think he wants me as his Mistress 24/7, I just think sometimes things go too fast, and he does panic. He knows he fucked up and he's been regretting it ever since.

    On a plus side, the tears and heartbreak he has seen from me in the past couple of days have reassured him that I am no longer doing this *for* him. It is now all about me. I do believe that is the best thing to come out of this.

    The disappearance of our beloved Mansion is not going to happen anytime soon. Or ever, hopefully!

    The only reason for that to happen would be if I said I didn't ever want to be a Mistress, and couldn't bear to look at or be a part of the site any more.

    After this latest "growth experience" I can say that I am only going forwards. I will not go back to vanilla, and I see myself more in the Dominant role now than I ever did before.
     
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    I will take a look when I get some time, thank you.

    He clearly wasn't thinking. I did a few unexpected things and I do think he was in some sort of "sub-shock". I think this was a turning point for me. At the time I saw it as very negative and felt pretty much destroyed, but now I have learnt so much from this experience.

    Let's face it... I don't think he could ever do anything more soul-destroying mid-scene... If I can get over this, the world is my oyster!

    Some of it was my fault. I mis-read signs, and I could have pushed this in a better direction. I do think this has settled a few things in both our minds, and I do think we now know who is in control. :anim_63:
     
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    Thank you. It is good to hear (more than once) that what I did was at least in the realms of someone's fantasies! At least I'm not a complete dunce!

    It's good to know that other's have the same communication issues! I'm sure it will sort... :love0007:

    I agree. I think my biggest mistake was not reading things properly and dishing out inappropriate punishment, as far as he could see.

    This is exactly what I had planned for this year, an almost month-by-month breakdown of tasks/challenges. Unfortunately I took an opportunity and made a right royal mess of it!!! Of course... it could have gone the other way!

    I think you are right - it was a knee-jerk reaction that has brought about a lot of thinking on both parts. For me it has created a lot of clarity, and I hope for pet it has shown now just how important this is for ME and that it is no longer something I am doing for him.

    Hehe... I think if the Lori issue doesn't resolve itself in the next couple of days, we will be using the CB6k in no time at all.
     
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    Thank you oddball. I agree, he is still very young and very stupid!!! (Ok, only sometimes!)

    I don't think the urges will go away for either of us. I think we need to reassess and then make sure we are working to make each other's roles as pleasant as possible... which is what we should have been doing in the first place.

    Some of this *is* my fault, and I put that down to a learning experience. It has taught me that reading my submissive is far more important than I realised. In a different situation he may well have deserved what happened, but I do think I made mistakes here.

    On the other hand, it is something I've always backed down from, and I firmly believe that pet now knows that his cute little face pulling tricks will not always get him out of trouble any more!!!
     
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    exactly!
     
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    Wow what an exciting new journal. I am sorry I missed the introduction as I have been away but as you have already found out this is hard work, for both involved. PLEASE PLEASE however do realize that his reactions to certain things are not an indication of failure on your part. As it has been said many here found what you do/did to be very intoxicating and very hot. This means you did not fail it simply means it is not something pet enjoyed or wants. Finding this common ground takes a lot of time as you know. Keep the communication going and it will all work out. NEVER give up on your dreams of who you are!
     
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    Mistress Kate, I nearly missed your post in the middle of my rant!

    I hope you're right! And I hope they do realise just how much we love them and how bloody hard we do work at this.

    Thank you also for your comment about Cobweb, it did make me chuckle. Men eh!
     
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    Having lived both roles I can testify that there is certainly more pressure it seams on the Dom(mes). Unless you are just a heartless person who's only desire is to have your needs filled it is harder to take that control and now exactly how hard to push it then it is to surrender to someone you trust.
     
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    Hmmmm.... So now what's going on!?!?!

    pet is just being plain weird. Lol.

    He says he's doing the thoughtful things because that's what's "normal" in a relationship. Which points big signs towards not wanting to return to a D/s relationship.

    I'm heading for a very hectic 2 weeks now, so I can't fudge my head with confusion any more. I'm happy that I know where *I* stand in this situation. I just need to wait for pet to catch up.

    It's a shame he doesn't fill in his journal with his honest thoughts and confusions, then maybe I would have a cat's chance in hell of figuring out what is going on.

    Not going to stress it for a while now... assignments to complete.
     
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    pet would drop random comments into odd conversations yesterday, but the general gist was "I want to go back to where we were, only with more play time".

    Okaaaayyyy..... :confused0082:

    Trust me, I'm not ignoring you on purpose! If I had my way I'd be teasing and dressing up and playing all the time. If we had a spare room it would be a play room, you know all that.

    It did occur to us that we haven't had a single child-free night for 2.5 years at least. I thought about getting his mum to have baby for 2 nights when my ex2b is back in the country and can have his kids.... then I realised I wouldn't be able to not see baby for that long, and I know (because she's daddy's girl) that pet wouldn't cope either.

    Oh well. We'll have to figure something else out won't we!

    We did look for some new additions to our toy chest, but the site we went to seemed a bit dodgy and I didn't want to risk my credit card. :mad0214:

    Too much to do and too little time at the moment.

    Back to the assignments!
     
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    Hi MW,
    It would seem to me that there are a few things you can do in the short term to ease the situation. Firstly domesticly you have a regular household with children around. Mistress and I do also. Second as I have mentioned before you do need health supliments to keep your strength up. Have you considered something like Barocca each morning like I suggested before? A simple vitamin supplement will have you both right in about a week.
    The second and maybe more fun idea is for both of you to take pen and paper, or print on here if you dare and write down the top five scenarios you would like to play out. Be as fully honest as possible and if the need for privacy is there keep it off this site.
    When you see your top five lists then play the one out that has the most common features between them. This will be the aim of your next play time and you can both tease each other actively up until your next opetunity to play. This way you will both get it right and maybe get back on track.

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    I am using up some vitamins I have around (still in date of course!) Once I have gone through those I will move on to the Barroca (I think slave kris uses this too).

    The 5 scenarios idea is FABULOUS! I might have to work on that and start a thread. :interrogation:

    But in the meantime I MUST get on with my assignments!!!! :bad-girl-0009:
     
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    Mistress I know all too well how kids can take a huge toll on you. Their rewards far out way my old school of thought of never seeing myself as a dad and I would not change anything for the world.

    However as has been told to me in the past you have to find time for the two of you and only the two of you. when I read your post above about the 2.5 years I almost passed out. While my Goddess and I have never been able to leave the kids over night to get away (sigh) we have had sitters over for date nights. Do what you can to get some time with each other. It will be in those otherwise vanilla moments that discussions of all sorts including non vanilla surface. If you get even one night to have to each other- Take It. I am still trying to work out the overnight thing (after five years) but even a late night dinner and a movie is priceless.
     
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