Overnight caging

@Ms King

Waking up from pain v. waking up from pressure - huge difference.

My old Chinese cage would lead to pain until I got the base ring right. It was also sometimes painful in the mornings due to the cage not fully containing the head.

In a custom cage (see gallery) I’ve woken up most days aroused but never in pain. I’m three weeks into the current lockup and it feels like the cage is welded on in the mornings. Hugely frustrating (enough that I normally just get up) but no actual pain.

 

I beleive in the principle te snugger the better. presently i own A273 and have ordered a still smaller cage. i don't know the name of the model.

 

You should have a cage 1/2-3/4 inch Shorter than the absolutte flacid penis. You could use a belt and som string and hold the basering close to the body to make any erection impossible

 

Lordy...not sure such a small thing exists!!!

 

He’s quite big, so several cages have been impossible to get on,
So am I: 8" erect. Try putting it on in shower. When my package is all soapy my small cage goes almost automatically. It's scary how quickly it slides on with no pinching.

How do we get past the night time problem?
He will get use to it. My first night was the worst nights sleep I'd had in decades. Each subsequent night was better and now I sleep normally. I discovered tight underwear helps tremendously.

but waking up with an uncaged boy is leading to way too much PIV and coming (my resolve is weak when I wake to him pressed against me),
Have the PIV just don't allow him an O. If you are like my wife and find it hard to say NO then try a game of chance to set his next O date. It takes the decision away from you. We did that in the beginning. It was the only way my wife could make me wait more than a day or 2. After I drew a 10 she found it much easier to make me wait. That was a few years ago. She decided to bring the game back with a twist. She allowed me an O for Christmas. This time she had hearts and spades for me to draw a number of days before my next O. A Jack for a zero, ace and 2 of hearts for first digit and ace thru 9 of spades for second. I drew a 27. She offered me a double or nothing but I decided not to try it.

Would a smaller cage help?
With the soap in shower I was able to get into a cage I thought impossible before discovering that.

Does it get better with perseverance?
YES

 

I also found that making a belt to hold the cage close at night time was a tremendous help.

 

Erect size has absolutely nothing to do with cage size ... sorry it doesn't

Most people say "flaccid penis" ... and on a general statement I do too .... but it seems there needs more explanation.

You ever been so cold that your penis shrivels up to almost become an inny instead of an outty ... or at least it feels that way lol. Well that is how small your penis can be comfortably! Because your body did it all by it self with no outside constraints.

So what does this mean? It means that when you are told to buy a cage based on your flaccid state minus .5 - .75 inches that your penis will have no problems being in a cage that size because unless you were sitting in a tub of ice water your penis can go smaller than it is flaccid. It also means that if you are not totally flaccid you are not getting the right measurement.

This leads to "learning" to put on a cage that small ... the most common way to learn this is the sock method. You place a nylon footy (woman stockings / nylons work best) over you penis and then pull the nylon and your penis into the cage. There is a learning curve to this because as you pull the nylon THROUGH the cage it will then start pulling your penis skin with it folding it up in a pile at the end of the cage around the head of your penis. So the learning curve to the sock method is covering the right amount of skin to be pulled forward. Not that it is a worry because if you pull to much skin forward it is easy to work it back out to a comfortable position (best done after attaching the cage to the base ring). Over time if there is enough room for fingers (like a MM Jailbird) you will easily be able to put the cage on without a sock.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Happygo-Chastity-Hypoallergenic-Stainless-Virginity/dp/B01GQENLFE

This one is fantastic! Just as comfy as an expensive custom cage WAY cheaper. There’s 3 different cage length to choose from and three base ring sizes so plenty of options! I’m quite large too and I wear the largest base ring and longest cage and it’s perfect!
The cage is narrow enough that your man won’t grow enough to really gain any momentum and therefore pull on his balls.
Another way to stop balls from being pulled (and to negate the weight of a steel cage) is to make a waist chain! Mine locksonto the base ring and keeps it FIRMLY against my pelvis. This stops the cage from pulling on my balls.

 

As everyone said, I think getting a small enough cage is important.

But he also has problem because he is a grower, and his dick pulls the cage away from the body and hurts his ball... three things can help:

1. Make sure the base ring is not to big. If it’s as snug as possible, it won’t move away from the body as easily. As soon as the erection starts it will tend to get stuck;

2. Dont put lubricant on the base ring. That can provide comfort during the day, but at night, the ring will will slide away from the body at each erection and hurt the balls!

3.wearing tight underwear’s like I have on the picture below helps a lot. For me it often prevents my penis to get into a “correct angle” by keeping it down, which again keeps the cage close to the body.

4. Finally, the anatomy gets used to chastity at night somehow, and it gets better (although, it’s never perfect.

 

his one is fantastic! It’s called “happygo chastity device” I tried post link but not allowed. Just as comfy as an expensive custom cage WAY cheaper. There’s 3 different cage lengths to choose from and three base ring sizes so plenty of options! I’m quite large too and I wear the largest base ring and longest cage and it’s perfect! Snug enough to not let me grow.
The cage is narrow enough that your man won’t grow enough to really gain any momentum and therefore pull on his balls.
Another way to stop balls from being pulled (and to negate the weight of a steel cage) is to make a waist chain! Mine locksonto the base ring and keeps it FIRMLY against my pelvis. This stops the cage from pulling on my balls.

 

Yes, I can get you pictures, in a day or two of how it works but it greatly increases both comfort and security at the same time.

 

It sounds like he is a grower. I am as well. As others have said, smaller is better. Try a custom fit Jailbird with an oval ring. Also, the base ring gap is important, I having been through several iterations, I have found that it the gap is too small between the base ring and the cage, you get skin breakdown/pain from too much pressure from the ring, I wouldn't go smaller than a 3/8" gap. Err on the a larger size base ring as well (this advice may to apply for all, but it applies for growers, I think). MatureMetal has a sizing kit which is really the only way to get a good fit.

 

I sent you a personal message explaining and showing the waist chain. It’s a huge boost to comfort and security.

 

Just to throw another perspective out there - I've enjoyed chastity for over a decade and have a dozen or so different devices, in different styles, sizes and shapes - and have yet to find one I can reliably wear for more than a few nights in a row before pain and pulling in my scrotum makes it unbearable.

As a result, we have developed our own system - it's the last thing I remove at night, and the first thing I put back on in the AM - she keeps the key on her person so I don't have free access to it. It's not the ideal chastity fantasy, of course, but I have a day job, a kid and a life to live - and getting no sleep for several nights on end wasn't something either of us could tolerate!

 

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'd love a 24/7 cage - but I've spent $1300 on a custom belt, and $25 on a cheap chinese metal cage from Amazon - and many in between - and none of them provide the security and comfort in the way you read about it on chastity forums, porn stories or in people's fantasies *for me*

We want this to be part of our lives, but it can't take over our lives. We do have jobs, and family, and non-kink commitments. I know some people find that blasphemous

 

So true! There doesn’t seem to be a holy grail of a device that’s
1. Comfortable
2. Effective
3. Escape proof. (Many require small padlocks which are easily cut, internal locks are always brass and easy to defeat, belts are often made of thin/cheap steel to be more flexible)

Behindbarz seems to be the most secure option but I really can’t tell how comfy it is for long term wear.

 

There is almost certainly no 100% escape proof cage but just like home security, locks are really a deterrent. A clever "thief", given enough time will always defeat his cage. Personally, I need as much security as possible... both The Queen and I know that :/ I think overnight chastity is good for us. It does require a lot more tweaking of sizes and can get expensive reordering cuatom cages. What is great about Mature Metal is they can usually change sizes for reasonable cost.

 

Yeah behind barz uses steel thats prerty difficult to cut but other than that, any guy who’s handy can’t be truly tamed by most devices. Soft leather bondage mitts WILL make you 100% secure while sleeping or left at home unmonitored as you’d be unable to use any tools or pick any locks.

 

Could you post how you got the waist chain to work for you? Does it ever cause you pinching or chafing?

 

After years of trying both plastic and metal pre made cages we decided to invest in a custom made one.

And I say invest as it was a lot of money.

But for us it has been worth in. For the last few months he hasn't been out for more that a few hours, sleeps through the nigh without a problem and does pretty much everything else like driving etc without a hitch.

So a lot of money - but if this is something that will be a significant part of your lives, as it is now for us, then it's worth it.

 

I have been using string method which digs into skin so wondering if chain does that less? Also do u use just waist chain or anything for underside of ring to help keep ring near body?

 

I use a “curb chain” which is a chain designed to lay flat against the skin. The wider or bigger the links the better.

Yes a second chain going from the bottom of the base ring through the butt crack to the waist chain at the lower back does help keep everything nice and tight against the body. Without the butt crack chain the waist chain alone would cause the cage to point upward or forward so that second chain helps keep the cage from showing trough jeans. I’ll post pics showing the set up soon. Been busy.

 

Thanks I’ve been trying to run a string from center of underside out of a knot and around back of each leg to keep bottom ring snug. That pulling up is painful and at worst can have nocturnal slip out for those with bases that are too big, I learned that the hard way.