Orgasm denial and chastity in question.

YEs, I would agree that a caged orgasm is okay for the reason you give, that the penis is not at large.

In my case I'm currently not caged so orgasms are definitely and definitively not allowed.

 

No it doesn't make any difference. I don't need a cage because I won't allow myself to orgasm. Chastity is a state of mind.

 

I couldn't do it without a cage!!! I just love to be locked away by Mrs Chaste and she doesn't like me unlocked either.

 

I think ruined is fine if the keyholder desires but caged orgasms still give some relief so I would say unless its accidental they shouldn't be allowed.

 

I think if that is what works for you in your relationship, that is great. It definitely would not fly in mine. I spend most of my time caged, but it's quite common to be let out for short periods of time. I am also expected not to orgasm then. I could never do this full time like Lester, too weak willed. I agree that caged orgasms are nothing like the real thing. Mine have left me with most of the let down after a regular orgasm and without the euphoric high that a real orgasm provides for a few fleeting moments.

 

I have so much love for a good ol' uncaged ruin! But I digress...

Agreed, we're all different. If caged orgasms work for you and yours @Mascara^Snake, I say go for it.

 

Your observations resonate with my experience Ms. Amanda. Having an orgasm while caged and servicing orally has been my most intense and emotional experience of lovemaking. The bond created between partners in this manner is sublime to say the least.

I have as yet no experience of the Hitachi method you describe but I have experienced effective (if less satisfying) releases while being penetrated. It is my understanding is that this can be accomplished reliably over time with consistent training and that sufficient durations locked further enable the technique.

Your additional observations on abusive male behavior are more chilling and the changes in society you predict can't come soon enough for me.

As a final note you seem interested in reinforcing the concept of sperm being wasted....... in the spirit of your disposal suggestions.......may I suggest flushing?

Thank you once again for displaying female thought leadership at it's finest.

 

chastity device is not going to stop a wannabe rapist

 

That's *not* how I feel about about it. For me, chastity is about the denial of erections. Orgasms are a symptom of erections, an almost all the time result. Erections are the disease, filling the brain with selfish needs, blocking out emotional and intimate availability. It is erections that need to be controlled.

@LesterBallard and I have differed on this before. Aside from the fact that I simply cannot do as he does -- repeat my mantra after me: "when uncaged, I am a masturbator -- there are many things I do with an erection, like edging a lot, that are not an orgasm. And those erections are just so distracting....

 

Oh, I must disagree here!

Unneeded erections are one thing, but deliberate ones another - and I'd say 98% of those do not involve an orgasm, at least in our relationship.

 

Sorry, I was unclear -- I was speaking for erections that do not occur as a specific result of Her/She unlocking him, what you refer to as "deliberate ones." Those are a different story.

 

I feel your clarity was there, by My understanding. Just a different dynamic, as the 'futile' ones struggle to even exist living in a cage. Before the device, the stats were the same for us.

Full orgasms for him are rare, regardless of potential.

 

Mrs Chaste would always orgasm before I was caged, that was never a problem. But once I was satisfied then my interest dropped to zero! (bloke thing, its just how a lot of us made unfortunately). Now she has at least 2 or 3 orgasms and has no need to worry about me at all. And she says they are so much more intense. And far from my interest diminishing it stays right at its peak! I spend time just gently licking her whenever she wants and am always ready and willing to do so. She's always satisfied and I am much happier. The joy her orgasms give me is amazing! Contentment and frustration both at the same time. We chaste husband's/boyfriends/partners are very fortunate indeed. The best sex for me doesn't involve "shooting my load". It took Mrs Chaste a while to get her head around the fact that she really doesn't need to make me cum for me to be happy. Now she is quite happy to " leave me gagging " as we call it. "You'll be alright" she says "its for your own good". And as we know, she knows what's best for me.

 

@Chaste J., it sounds like Mrs. Chaste and I have similar subs. Such a lovely arrangement when our fulfillment is felt as your own.

 

Glad to see you are not restricted by chastity formalism. Your control and his absolute fixation to you matters most.

Rules, devices, and periods of denial pale in comparison to he look in your eye, touch of your hand, tone of your voice, and full control over his stimulation.

Seldom discussed here is the forced orgasm -- the female taking of her partner in unstoppable fashion. The forced, restricted orgasm conveys a high Goddess status to the male psyche.

 

Thinking again about Ms Amanda's original point, I think she is right. If the male is caged and orgasms because of, or with the agreement of the Female, this is acceptable. It may be an orgasm, but it's not a penetrative orgasm. It is totally controlled. If the Female is happy with that then it is acceptable.

Similarly, ruined orgasms at the behest of the Female, are tools of devilish frustration and should be encouraged.

 

Thank You very Much Miss Amanda for making everyone think about what may be right or wrong. I still think that the right to have an orgasm layers with the owner of the cock in the cage. Who owns the cock the guy it's attached to or the person holding the key. This is more a state of the persons mind than it is what's between his legs. In my situation what's between my legs in the property of my Mistress and if I allow it to release semen when I haven't been given her permission than I expect to be punished.

I have the utmost respect for what you say and post but I don't like the comment about "while locked he is still unable to have his way with rape or force himself". Only a small percentage of men Do these things a lot of us are very kind and loving towards women if we're locked or not.

Thanks again for your deep thoughts.

 

Yes ma'am it is unfortunate that their are people like that. As for not unlocking me for an Orgasm I think she's already got that under control. Thanks for your response.

 

Having followed this thread with interest I've gone back to your original words Ms. Amanda and while quite sure your intention was that caged orgasms be by permission only I'm not actually seeing those words. I think subsequent dialogue about ability to escape some types of cages may have obscured this key concept......permission. Even while typing these words however I'm thinking that a spontaneous orgasm while servicing ones keyholder may be the exception that proves your rule (for those who need rules

 

Pretty much only way you can ensure permanent chastity is with the ultimate gift of penectomy.

 

That would be the Ultimate gift to give. It includes a Final Sale Do Not Return.

 

The power to make the decision on whether or IF there will be another orgasm for me is out of my hands .. literally yes I know... But along with whether and IF naturally goes where and how and of course uncaged or not .

Whilst who else does or doesn't do whatever and where is non of my business I though do think it depends totally on the dynamic or your relationship and of course .... accidents.