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    #76 Achedlock17, May 14, 2019
    My point is not about the worries of the UK porn viewers, it is about the lack of justification by their elected government for deeming those UK porn viewers to be less trustworthy than the non citizens (Mindgeek) who beam the porn to them in the first place and in whom trust will be placed to verify their age. The representatives of the citizens have ceded power and authority to non citizens.
     
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    #77 Achedlock17, May 14, 2019
    Well, on that basis I assume that for the same reason the names of members of chastity mansion will become known. And your point is? My point is a different one, as per my reply to @L-u-c-y
     
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    #78 steviepie, May 14, 2019
    if Ms. Lucy has spoken I have no further comments of value.
     
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    #79 SubSnuggler, May 14, 2019

    That seems strangely... gender specific.

    I'm not a big porn consumer (no pun intended) but the vast majority that I run across are posted by Dommes and Findommes on reddit. Almost all of it amateur produced and created by women. So from my admittedly unique viewpoint, women are the ones most likely to be financially harmed.

    I think it's clear that there are many facets on the topic that were left unexplored and unaddressed by the UK legislative effort. It's easily bypassed, gives too much personal information away, and as usual with top-down law-making, has many unintended consequences.
     
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    #80 L-u-c-y, May 14, 2019
    It sounds like you are talking about amateurs posting on amateur sites. They won't be affected.
     
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    #81 steviepie, May 15, 2019
    classic selfishness
     
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    #82 shinynicole, May 18, 2019
    I haven’t looked at this in a few days as I have been busy with other things and, I am going to take a deep breathe,

    lucy,
    Achedlock17 did not say they watched freepron from Mindgeek. They finished their post with “I would be interested in your view of that”

    Your reply,
    That is just another one of snarky comments you have made while everyone else is trying to have a discussion about an issue, and once again all you seem to care about is copyright.

    I understand that copyright must be important to you and I have gone over them before, it is not the issue that anyone but you is talking about. If you want to discuss copyright start a thread on it, I’ll join in, I think they are problems with copyright issue online, but that is not what we are discussing.

    Anytime someone has a point that does not agree with this law you are either saying they want children to watch porn or accusing them of watching free porn.

    I really do not understand why someone who runs a forum is trying to stop a discussion, is this something we should how talk about here?
    Should we go to another forum to have a free discussion about this?

    And Steviepie
    What about gay porn?
    and you look they this law has nothing to do with respect for women, right?
    So I really do not understand the point you are trying to make, could you expand on it?


    And Peter Rabbit,

    Yeah I understand all your points and agree, it's very easy for anything that isn't mainstream, isn't the norm to be classed as pornographic but that's another reason why this law is so bad and damaging.
     
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    #83 L-u-c-y, May 18, 2019
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    I'm joining in with the discussion, I am not stopping anyone else doing so. Am I not allowed to give my point of view if it doesn't agree with yours?

    This rule/ban whatever it is, is designed to stop children looking at free porn sites. All the existing paid sites which produce their own content won't be affected.

    Adults are complaining their rights to look at free porn is being taken away, it isn't, all you have to do is show proof you are over 18.

    It seems ironic they are complaining about their rights while not giving a fuck about the rights of the people in the free porn they jerk off to.

    That is the point I am trying to make.
     
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    #84 shinynicole, May 18, 2019
    That is not a point, it is just another accusation

    All you have been doing is attacking anyone who questions this law, acusing them of wanting children to watch porn, only being concerned with watching free porn themselves.

    If you want to join in then join in, with a point, or an argument, not an attack.
     
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    #85 L-u-c-y, May 18, 2019
    No, I have not done that.

    Well yes.
     
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    #86 shinynicole, May 18, 2019
    I noticed that you do not have a problem with me pointing out that you do not have a point.

    Your inability to understand what everyone is trying to discuss has derailed this.

    It's not about copyright, which I have noticed you are now calling free porn but that is still just you going on and on about copyright.

    Most people on here have been discussing this issue, disagreeing with each other and sharing their views respectfully, you have not.

    If you can not grasp big issues, cannot discuss them like an adult, then you should not have joined this thread.
     
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    #87 keyheld, May 18, 2019
    So if the ban doesn’t affect those giving free content then what’s the point of any ban?

    Is free also stolen?
     
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    #88 L-u-c-y, May 18, 2019
    Please read again.
     
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    #89 L-u-c-y, May 18, 2019
    I have, you just don't like what I'm saying.

    The only one I can see not discussing things like an adult is you.
     
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    #90 shinynicole, May 18, 2019
    You have been attacking people who have disagreed with you from the first page of this thread. Anyone who has raised any questions about this you have completely ignored their points while snarkily replying they are just "crying about not being able to access free porn"

    As to me not liking your point, I have said repeatedly that this law will have no impact on copyright or free porn, it is not what it is for, but it is still all you have been talking about.

    I have really tried to keep this discussion on track, I have even agreed with one or two of your points and said as much. When you actually talk about the subject I do not hate what you are saying, just how you are saying it.

    But I'm done, I'm not going to waste my time getting drawn into an argument with someone who clearly has no understanding of the implications of this law, other than some ill-conceived idea that it's going to be good for copyright.
     
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    #91 L-u-c-y, May 18, 2019
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    I haven't been attacking people, I have been disagreeing with them. I was talking about the general masses who will be crying about it, not the people replying to this thread.

    The reason I brought up copyright was why should anyone be worried about the loss of free porn when the people who view it are not worried about the rights of the people who are in the porn. One person who commented has even admitted he has no sympathy for them.

    If your material was put on the internet for free without your permission you would not have any sympathy for the viewers when it's taken away from them.

    It will have an impact, the number of people viewing pirated porn will diminish.

    I'm sorry I don't agree with your points but that's what happens in a discussion.

    The most important thing is children are not going to be able to access it without credit cards/adult ID.

    If adults are worried about their names being on some kind of porn viewers database they can go and buy it on DVD from a adult shop instead. That would be a much better system than anyone being about to see any porn on any subject instantly.
     
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    #92 shinynicole, May 18, 2019
    No, you have been snarky, rude and patronising, you can backtrack all you want but it is very clear to anyone looking through this thread what you have been doing and how you have been talking to people.


    How?
    Explain yourself
    Because not only is that not an issue that anyone but you is talking about, it is not apart of this law, not covered and not an intended consequence of it, it is also not going to have any effect on it.
    As has already been pointed out a few times, the company behind pornhub, redtube and others is very involved in this process so their sites will be fine.
    How will this effect torrents?
    How will this effect file sharing sites?
    How will this affect anything?

    You have not been having a discussion with anyone who disagrees with you, for the last three pages you have just been rude and condescending to them, so do not even pretend that I am being unreasonable for calling you out on it.
     
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    #93 L-u-c-y, May 18, 2019
    You are the only one being rude and disrespectful here.
     
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    #94 shinynicole, May 18, 2019
    Sure lucy, sure.

    You know I used to come on to this site a lot years ago, and it was always a friendly place where people could talk about things they couldn't always talk about with their friends or families, but it has changed a lot.
     
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    #95 L-u-c-y, May 18, 2019
    @shinynicole If your books were put on the internet for free, then they were removed forwhateverreason, you would have no sympathy for people who complain they cannot see them for free.
     
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    #96 L-u-c-y, May 18, 2019
    You haven't been here since 2012, you only came back a couple of weeks ago to advertise your book.

    You know where the door is if you can't take someone disagreeing with you.
     
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    #97 Achedlock17, May 19, 2019
    I feel let down by @L-u-c-y ignoring my point about the political ramifications of the UK government ceding power and authority to non citizens rather than relying on citizens to verify their age.
    That being said, it would seem @L-u-c-y cares more for those porn performers who must feel let down when their content is used for free by UK porn consumers, than she does about my feelings concerning general points of political principle.

    I’ll get over it! I enjoy CM overall.

    Whether @L-u-c-y and other UK citizens should be more concerned about the general political (lack of) principle I highlight with respect to this law is for them to decide, recognising that beyond a certain point if the views and actions of citizens are not trusted by the lawmaker then there will be nothing the citizens can do about it.

    Back to free porn, as I say, I am sympathetic to the need to overcome the unjust exploitation of the erotic capital of the porn performers for no reward. Webcamming is preferred in my “view”.
     
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    #98 L-u-c-y, May 19, 2019
    I did mention that people will have a choice of at least 4 companies that will be doing the age checking, one of which is based in London.
     
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    #99 coffee2sugars, May 19, 2019
    As far as porn and pay goes I have no real interest in the pay that porn stars receive and likewise I very much doubt that they would have any interest in my salary either. As far as I am concerned their pay is their business and if they are not happy they should either take action to resolve their issue i.e. find a new employer or even a new carea. Either way it is their business and not mine. I would point out though as a matter of interest only that it is very well known that Female stars are paid much larger amounts of money than male stars. This does not seem to support equality or fairness in the industry when all other industries have made efforts to close the pay gap.

    I do not approve of copyright theft, why would I? This law only only effects the UK though, a very small country and will have no effect on copyright theft whatsoever. It is not by desine that it ever would as if every UK person signed up and verified their age why would the like of you porn ect even think to change their working policies.Their customer ase would still be there.

    I have felt a little bit uncomfortable in this thread as I was directly quoted in the post thay said stated we was all crying about not being able to access porn. I have also had a post deleted. I am a big boy and I will shrug it off but it has left me wondering if this truely is a forum that Is for me.
    I like the mansion and I like the people but I have felt that this is not a forum for people to share oppsing views and discuss things unless you are agreeing with the owners point of view.
     
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    #100 L-u-c-y, May 19, 2019
    I have not asked anyone to agree with me, I have stated my point of the view as others have stated theirs. Everyone's views are equal.

    You made an off topic post about brexit which was deleted, I explained this to you in a private message 12 days ago.

    I'm starting to think this is not the forum for me as people do not like me sharing my opposing view about their beloved porn.
     
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