Hello all, couple here, D and N, and we are delving into the world of male chastity. Research on devices has lead us here to Chastity Mansion. Seems like a great place to discuss, ask questions and in some cases share the story of the journey. Our problem is the device search. We have tried a couple of devices, off the shelf items per say. But proper sizing is the question. Been to a couple of sites that say string here mark here measure here. And that has kind of given us our first two attempts. He's been a trooper so far. but the sheer fluctuation, especially while sleeping, has been a sore subject. Pun intended. He has been awoken in the middle of the night in severe pain, not making fun of him, but discoloration and massive deformation in the design of the cage, reminded me of the old adage, 10 lbs of shit in a 5lb bag. Doesn't really seem to be damaging anything other than his sleep. Color are definitely going towards a purple and he has survived a whole night locked up. Waking up very sensitive to touch, which was interesting.... Caging this thing is proving difficult. Our goal is long term use, and probably urethral insert to help with sanitary control... I can give some measurements and maybe get some thoughts, ideas or direction to help us . Iced up flaccid Base circumference 160mm Shaft circumference 94mm Shaft length 87mm Normal flaccidness averaged over a week because of fluctuation Base circumference 185mm Shaft circumference 110mm Shaft length 142mm Fully aroused Base circumference 219mm Shaft circumference 163mm Shaft length 221mm Any thoughts, ideas or advice as to device selection, usage or pitfalls it avoid. Thank you for reason and in advance of any advice... Muito obrigado tudos
Welcome to our community and hope you find it helpful, as well as entertaining. i agree that process of finding cage is difficult at times. i went through a raft of metal cages without a lot of luck. For me the Cherry Keeper turned out well, since you can get much more options on ring size. But keep searching. Many here suggest doing inexpensive off the shelf models first before going custom. But i'm sure you'll get lots of advice. Good luck and enjoy.
Thank for the kind welcome. We are looking forward to reading and learning more. It's all trial and error til we find out what works for us. But that's all part of it, all you can do is hope all enjoy the journey and in the end laugh about the mistakes.
Advice to the Masses about Chastity Devices in General and Cheap or Custom Ones IMPORTANT NOTE: Finding a device that fits, is comfortable, and secure, is a serious job. It can cost a lot to experiment, and it can take a long time, and frankly such experimentation is totally necessary unless you are unspeakably lucky. BE WARNED experimenting on your own dick, comes with risks and consequences. SOME BASIC COMMONSENSE GUIDELINES FOR CHASTITY DEVICE WEARERS: (non-complete list) Wash it first, no not you, the device. Before you put it on for the first time. Run your excited slippery and soapy fingers all over, "the device", to be sure there are no burs or rough spots which could end your fun before it begins. Wash your dick too. Once you get to daily wear, keep things clean down there. If it smells, wash it. Definitely wash carefully at least once/day, if not twice. Urine can be very irritating, especially if you didn't drink much that day. If it pinches, re-jigger it, adjust your balls. Consider wearing supportive underwear if you have a problem with things dangling uncomfortably when you are soft or your dick is cold. Mens underwear with a built-in pouch is what I wear. Keeps things well in place. If your dick, balls or whatever related anatomy is involved starts to "hurt" remove the device and inspect yourself and it for problems. Run your fingers over the spot that's hurting. Things have been known to break, crack, fake, etc. Even a scratch you can't see might be enough to irritate your member. Touching your own dick where you feel pain can reveal sensations that indicate damage, even if you cant see anything wrong. Various kinds of creams and oils are favored to keep things from sticking and chafing. I like almond massage oil. Takes very little to do the trick. Wash off at the end of day and reapply. Don't under any circumstances replace the device on your dick till the skin damage or sore spot is healed. Ignoring this advice can lead to infection and even short of that, to greater irritation which will bring your wearing to a halt, whether you like it or not. You'll have to wait longer for it all to heal before you can start again. Start slow. Wear time does not go from zero to permanent in a day. Begin with hours, and stop immediately if you are uncomfortable.(Not including the discomfort of a hardon, as long as getting a hardon in your device does not lead directly to skin damage.) Drop your continuous wearing time back, reduce it to avoid injury. Try to wear your device for a period of time and stop before it's uncomfortable. Morning wood can be uncomfortable. Some people say that your body will adjust and eventually not make you so uncomfortable. Your level of discomfort depends on the device. Remedies for morning wood pain generally include, getting out of your warm bed, taking a pee, and walking around till your hardon (probably generated by your subconscious knowledge that your Keyholder has you well in hand) subsides. And also stop thinking about your hardon and how much you love your Keyholder, and what you might have done on the couch at this hour, alone, except that you painful hardon is locked in the device. (Chastity is a serious mindfuck. That's of course why we love it, right?) The general opinion on how to size a device is that a smaller device gives less room to start growing and as a consequence you may have less discomfort. (This is counter-intuitive advice, test it out as part of your experimentation. YMMV) A smaller device will also be more likely to prevent ejaculation because of the compression and incompleteness of your normal structure. But in truth, since some men can be so arroused that they experience a pre-mature ejaculation, no chasity device will absolutely prevent ejectulation. However it can make it difficult or impossible for some men, under certain circumstances, and at a minimum it reduces the ease of ejaculation and if reasonably secure, prevents you from sticking your hard dick anywhere your lovely Keyholder doesn't want it to go. After you've messed around with all of the devices that are, sort of secure, and you decide that you really don't want to even believe you have the option of slipping your dick out for a quick unauthorized wank, consider getting a Prince Albert piercing. If and when you become serious about your chastity and you are looking for actual not-pretending-anymore long term secure chastity and denial you should consider getting a PA. Piercing really does "Make it Real." As real as it can be, that is. When finally healed and locked in, your device is not coming off with out the key, tools, or damage. It really is a very intense experience. Your device will be with you 24/7/365 if that suits your KH. Do you have a nice watch, drive a nice car, have a large TV? You aren't going to spend nearly as much time with any of those as you will with your CB. Once you decide what sort of device you want perhaps you'll buy a cheap knock-off. That's good for experimentation, and that's great way to figure out in a general way if that design will work for you, but don't stop there. After you've done your research, found the device you really want, tested some knock-offs, set aside the time and the money and purchase a custom version for a known maker. You may still have to tweak the sizing once or twice with modifications of the design or try smaller or larger versions or whatever. Smaller is always better, than bigger in CB sizing. Well reviewed Makers understand these problems and part of your research is finding out who will be responsive. This is ok, and to be expected. If you can visit your maker and have measurements taken by the Maker, that can be good too, and perhaps eliminate some of the trial and error. If you are willing to put a hole in your dick in pursuit of chastity and security, do yourself a favor and get a custom device that fits comfortably and securely. The last thing you want is a to settle on an inferior knock-off that's not made from proper stainless or titanium, that causes injury or damage and leaves you unable to wear any device at all till you heal up and buy a replacement. Once you get your PA done, and it's healed and you've found the right custom device, you will have entered a special elite group of chastity wearers, who need never be unlocked and can not escape their Keyholder's will. Consider these high-end Makers: Steelwerks Extreme, Stealworxx.de,, Neosteel, Lori's Chastity Tube, Mature Metal, and many others. Look for reviews, look at devices, and choose wisely. Steel is much easier to wear than plastic. Best of Luck, ShieldingMatrix
Welcome to the group, I’m thinking you might be done reading after the previous post, but be sure, everything you read above is fantastic advice. You will find a lot to learn here, and a lot of fantasy also. Just go slow and enjoy
the above was alot of info for sure. Most of which we were already aware.. but we read everything. We had already decided on inox, that was pretty much a no Brainerd. Steel doesn't deform too easily so once we have found the right fit as it were.. There’s no escape. We tried a solid round ring base. And to be able to get him in one needs to be 60mm or so. But the escape is possible, problem is he's built like a wood splitter. The closer to the base, the thicker it gets. So we started looking for a hinged ring. Did a 50mm hinged base. A little difficult to get it wrapped around but not impossible. But with enough lub and determination, stretching and pain tolerance... he can escape. Definitely a deterant but not impossible. So with that in mind and based upon other readings, once he becomes accustomed to long term wear, it maybe possible to move down a size which would for sure be inescapable. But can I crank it down that far and still get a finger tip in to make sure there is adequate blood flow.. And for those out there learning too. Best advice we can give is a barrel locking device,, the first one we had was a padlock, when he was a little engorged.. the padlock movement pinching against the steel... let's just say.. ouch.
Just checked out steelworx, they seem to agree about padlock or barrel lock. Padlock is only used for them on shielded devices. Ones where skin could be contacted by a padlock use a barrel lock. guess it is well known advice, haha
Thanks for reading my "guide." If it was more than you needed, perhaps it will be useful information to those that come after you. If you are having pull-out issues with ball-trap devices consider a Head-Only device. Skip the base ring and lock up the crown. That's what I've got and it's very comfortable. But of course that requires a piercing. My device the Shandmaske is from Steelwerks Extreme, not to be confused with Steelworxx.de who also make there own version of a head-only device, such as the Securo-Cage 1 https://www.steelworxx.de/Securo-Cage-1_1. To attain significant security without a piercing you could look into a relatively novel alternative to a PA piercing that might make wearing your ball-trap more secure or even make it possible to wear a head-only device without a PA. It's the TetherSpout, https://tetherproducts.com/. Once inserted into the urethra, it can be use to secure a device without a piercing. I have no experience with this device but I think there are folks here who do, (Tetherspout on CM,) and I've seen it mentioned on FetLife.com too. Good description of Tetherspout with images on FetLife - https://fetlife.com/users/6777430/posts/4386255?sp=3 Best of Luck and once again welcome. ShieldingMatrix
Yea, it takes time and trial and error to find the correct fit. Measuring a dick is not the same as measuring a 2X4. The darned thing changes all the time. Check out custom cages. That step is where many of us have found nirvana. Well, at least the key holder anyway.