Monogomy: because "GOD" says so

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    #1 Beck, Aug 10, 2016
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    Warning: Trigger alert and Coarse wordage (now edited, sorry) and four glasses deep en el vino. And probably the most stupid thing you'll read all night. or day.

    Monogamous relations exist all throughout nature. Human beings aren't the only ones that prefer to keep a mate for life. But then, one can point directly at the divorce rate or any number of failures or changes of heart in any part of this dying planet, and see oh so very clearly how plans all too often don't go as they were originally intended. Human nature in a nut shell.

    Please excuse my use of quotations around the illustrious adjective used to describe what we petty humans do not really understand. I don't mean to offend you. I am riffing here you see. Just a few thoughts pecked uselessly into the interwebs and forever kept for the grand chastity mansion's amusement, or perhaps disdain. Oh go fig yourself. Now, that that is out of the way...

    Monogamy, and specifically monogamy within a chastity relationship just seems impossible. Maybe this is just the sand in my panties talking, but I just don't see anymore how any relationship could possibly continue to be so titillating particularly where one member has been dedicated to not being able to enjoy the fruits of their loins, and the other is left to either command or dominate the chastised into sexual acts for their own satisfaction. It has crossed my attention several times now that the act of keeping a key or key holding can be equally frustrating. For example, having to listen to the whining for attention or release, or perhaps just figuring out what the fuck to do once the relationship has been interrupted by a chastity cage. Really. So what might be the next best course of action for those who have found their monogamous relationships intertwined with the erotic and lets face it, fetishistic practice of chastity? What depraved and immoral sows have such people become? Where they in their practice of rituals and power exchange create their own little worlds for their own amusement and sexual gratification. Or perhaps laden with rancidity of self justification for such behavior to normalize and create an atmosphere of acceptance, even when the vast majority of all chastity remains a quiet secret between lovers.... monogamous lovers who decide that the best way for their relationship to get new wind or excitement is to deny it all together??? Yaaassss bitch. That is so very hot how you keep me denied and never have sex with me... so awefully hot. And I, pitiful slave at your feet worship the ground you walk on, and hope to lick the soles of your high and mighty heels clean before you trample me with them. YASSS!!!!
    BUT WAIT
    There are other people who do this??? SOOO it must be normal! A completely normal part or tributary of the way "GOD" intended monogamous relations to be $ sudo hell scape/forced relations/wedded bliss. For richer or poorer, stress on the poorer...

    Maybe you're thinking why not just leave the relationship if it sucks that badly. Or maybe this kind of exchange is exactly what you've always wished for, and the sad reality of life is that wanting something is far different than needing something. Or maybe you need to communicate your feelings with your partner and work to make things better. Work? Ahh shit! Give over! True love should just work on its own!! But there in lies the saddest truth of all: There is no such thing as true love, and all relationships require work. (shudder) Even those who engage in polygamous relations have to work, and probably even harder. Multiple partners and love triangles must experience jealousy from time to time, which must infer there are actual feelings at work there, am I right? Not just a godless sexual slurry of cum. And thus the monogamous model falters and is crushed into a billion pieces.

    Maybe its time for some cuckholding. Me, caged, licking cum off my wife's pussy lips and then taking a real pounding in my sissy ass. The epitome of marital monogamous oxymoron bliss. Am i right? First I'll have to put on the cage . . . and and and nah. Can't even joke about that, just not room for that in my vanilla landscape.

    Time to masturbate.
     
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    An amazing monogomy monologue!
     
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    I feel like I need to have four glasses of vino to answer! I don't agree with pretty much everything but damn, it was fun reading this!
     
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    ugg just re-read this...

    wtf.

    spelling error in the title. umm yeah... that was some good wine.
     
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    Well that was a giggle, thanks for sharing! I think one of us mods might need to prune out the more cussy bits. Not cos we're puritans, just cos, well, you know, it just isn't CM. Otherwise, well done Sir, a good drunken rant!

    Reminds me to share a vid of Alain De Botton talking about the troubles with living in the age of romance. :)

    You don't really mind if we edit the swearing do you? Well, apologies in advance! ;)
     
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    I have some time now to respond to your hilarious drunken rant. I think I can tell that there is some small amount of bitterness from personal experiences contained within the rant, no?

    I also wish that I had kept a copy of the original rant with all its contained passion prior to the edit. Eddie Izzard or Billy Connoly without the swearing would be a pale imitation of them in full swing. In my opinion it would be far better to have a warning in the title that the post contained swearing than remove it. Especially when it enhanced the level of frustration and anger that the original post contained. If it is gratuitous then fair play.

    Anyway, I am here to counter the argument that a monogamous relationship is impossible in a chastity based relationship. I am in one. My Wife, Elle, @Our Arrangement, is very determined to remain monogamous. Including anyone else in our sexual activities is her number one hard limit. She understands that it was a fantasy of mine but it isn't going to happen. I think that the only way it ever would is if I signed a divorce agreement and there is going to be a squadron of pigs flying in hell during a snow storm before that happens.

    Let's take your arguments one at a time.

    I am no expert but although there are animals in nature that mate for life I am pretty sure that more just shag anything they can get close to. I shall leave that point to others. The sad fact is that many marriages do indeed end in divorce. While I have been married 26 years and plan on remaining married for life my siblings are all divorcees and many of my family are in second and third marriages. We are the exception rather than the rule. But that isn't your main thesis.

    You say the reason that a monogamous relationship is impossible is because one partner is basically being denied the pleasure that is inherent in their loins. My response is you are missing the most beautiful part of being a chaste male in a loving monogamous relationship. The realization that being denied regular orgasms has so many unknown positive effects. The way that once you have been denied for a while and reach a sexual peak the slightest touch, a breath, a glance from your Wife turns you on. The discovery that if you deny your penis sexual contact your entire body becomes a sexual organ. The way that your Wife gains in confidence and starts to use your brain as a sexual organ. The discovery that bringing your Wife to an orgasm provides you with a huge amount of glorious, frustrated horny pleasure.

    My Wife dominates me for her own sexual pleasure. She is still discovering how responsive I am to this, and still discovering how much fun she can have. Her expression of horny satisfaction, of glee, her giggling at my reactions to her show that she is not in any way frustrated or tired of the work that is involved. If anything she is discovering that the work is remarkably easy. Yes, she can tie me up and get hot and sweaty, but also she can stroke my bottom sensually in public, flash me her pussy in a risky environment and have just as much fun.

    The bitterness in your situation is evident when you ask what depraved and immoral sows have our Keyholders become. I do not know what prompted this statement and I am not angry with you for making it, but I will say my Wife is only depraved in the eyes of a sexual bore or religious fanatic whose opinion means nothing to us, and she is far from immoral. She loves me with a passion that is growing with time and cares for me more than ever. She has come to understand that my chastity is not easy and requires help from her. She has never been sympathetic (don't marry a nurse if you want sympathy!) but now she does look after me more explicitly. If I am down she will spend a few minutes turning me on, knowing that makes my chastity paradoxically easier to maintain. Elle has standards and limits which are defined by her morals, not limited by them.

    I do not understand why you think chastity means denying sexual satisfaction from a monogamous relationship. I am having more sex than I ever had before, it is just underpinned by an expectation that I will not have an orgasm. I am not denied sex, I am denied orgasm. The next orgasm my Wife has will be her 50th of the year. Hardly a record for many but lots more than she would have had previously. I have loved every single one and the longer I have been denied between my own the more precious her orgasms have become. I have had four this year and they were amazing.

    Communication is indeed critical in a relationship. But why does that mean true love doesn't exist? Love at first sight happened to me with the woman who became my Wife. It took her longer to realise that I was to be her life partner, but we got there. We truly love each other and express this love daily.

    At the core of your argument you keep mentioning God. I am not religious but my Wife is. She jokes that she has to try extra hard to be good as she is married to a heathen. The fact is there are sites out there that explain why a male chastity based marriage fits very neatly into the Christian ethic. Many people are confused about what the bible says about sex but in fact the message is that sex without procreation as the end goal is critical to a healthy and happy relationship.

    I know nothing of polyamarous relationships but I do t think they can be seen as immoral. You said it yourself wh. You thought they probably take ore effort than a usual single partnership. I hope that polyamory is the future for humanity and the removal of jealousy from a relationship can only make us healthier as a species. If I am honest with myself I think I am more interested in living polyamarously than I am to simply see my Wife have sex with anther man. Love should be at the core of what we do and knowing that another man or woman loved my Wife as much as I do could only enhance what we already have.

    If you feel like cuckolding is the inevitable future of a chastity based relationship then I am here to give you the opposite view. I think that a monogamous, loving, lifelong relationship is my inevitable future. I am sorry you feel so obviously unhappy and if you have a vanilla partner unwilling to join in my advice is to not give up. Approach this carefully and sensitively and show them the advantages and let them realise for themselves that there is nothing wrong. Become frantic and overwhelming with your fantasies and desires and you will undoubtedly put them off.

    Step away from that penis! You are in control of him, not the other way around.
     
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    @Jasmic68 Thank you for your time and effort in answering my drunken rant. Sorry if anything was offensive to you or touched upon a sensitive issue. I think that I actually almost completely agree with everything you so eloquently stated. True love is real, It is all about the feelings involved, work or not... love at first sight I'm a bit more skeptical of however. Again, thank you very much for your sincere and thoughtful reply!
     
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    Dear Madam, Moderator and Guide, your supreme highness and treasure to humanity! I stand humbly corrected for my most insidious and foul language. Please forgive me!!! I deserve nothing more than to grovel at your sweet and wonderful e-feet and beg for mercy and thank you for your generous correction!!! Ohhhhhh! Ohhhhhh! Ohhhhhh! puh puh puh puhlease forgive me your worshipfulness! Oh wise and wonderful Mistress of the Chastity Mansion!! OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
     
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    Ok then. I will watch my language going forward. I'll just have to be much more creative! I would love to insert some kind of quote on censorship here, instead I will just point out how completely @#$%ed it is that Mods can edit a post, but the author cannot. Instead the original author must accept editing as a kind of forced unwanted carnal knowledge. Yes I know that CM asks writers to be considerate, but yet, offers no ability to self edit. Writers must hope that in responding in future posts that they are given the same opportunity and voice they had with the original piece. Hope. What a strange and all too often silly thing. There is apparently no ownership of content here unless you happen to be a moderator. How interesting is that? Further, how does one become so powerful... er um, I mean capable? How do Moderators get to be Moderators anyway? Seriously? Just curious! I must say that the selective editing of my original post reminds me of chastity. I have no power! Good grief! I just wanted to vent a little... to my comrades! I forgot about the great wall of respect that must be adhered to, amidst the fine selection of carefully curated dick pics and erotic content. What was I thinking? SEIG HEIL
     
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    The following error occurred:
    The time limit to edit this message (3 minutes) has expired.

    Your mistakes will now be on display for the Chastity Mansion to exploit, edit, or erase as they see fit.

    Have a nice day, and restful night!
     
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    Don't worry Beck the Mod Elite Cabal thing is about to fall ;-)
     
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    I didn't find anything about your original rant offensive in the slightest. If anything I found it started a refreshing debate about the morals and standards behind male chastity relationships. I can only write about my own experiences so it's would be good to get the thoughts of other members. Can you remember what your reasons were for posting your tirade given your inebriated state?

    As for eloquence, I just read my original reply. It is an example of the problem of the three minute edit policy as it is peppered with typos. I sort of understand the reason for having the policy but we need more than 3 minutes.

    I also get the feeling that censorship touched a nerve as well. I haven't had one of my posts edited by a moderator but I can imagine that it would almost definitely upset me. If they are fixing a typo, ok, but changing the essence of a post is not so good.
     
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    Me neither, but it's not the pub, and it's not the school yard either.
    A question then - was the swearing in any way integral to the flow of the piece? I mean, would the rant have worked as well without it?
     
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    Perhaps I should have posted to "the bar" then? would swears be acceptable at "the bar"? Honestly, they were my words, until they weren't. While the few choice edits of my use of language aren't changing my intent, that isn't really the point. It was a rant, and at the very top of the piece there is a disclaimer, now also edited.

    Yes the censorship did touch a nerve. But I'm over it. I find it completely amusing that this forum, as I noted before as being full of user submitted pornographic material, should be free from swear words. I mean c'mon! really? And in my use of such words, and the subsequent censorship of most of them, I was put in my place. Good dog. Sit! Stay! Good dog! I suppose to some it might be offensive to know that as I write this, I am completely off my leash, and being very disobedient. I am essentially pissing on my Master's oriental rug! No steel chastity for me right now. And yet, the reprimand for using swears and editing of my writing actually turned me on somewhat! I almost want to just fill a page with four letter words to see what happens! Will I be punished again?

    The reasons for the tirade originally are indeed still fresh in my mind, despite the alcohol fueled state that lowered my inhibitions enough to put it on CM. I think most of it is still there, perhaps a bit between the lines. But alas, I must ponder them quietly to myself for a little while longer before I reply further.
     
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    I know, it seems a bit odd doesnt it? But then there's all sorts of censorship that happens, all the time, but the huge majority of it occurs before people press the submit button, and I can only imagine that it was inebriation that diminished your own on that occasion.

    We all censor ourselves everyday, otherwise we'd each presumably get our noses bloodied more often. Have you noticed that for a forum whose content is sexual in its very nature, there are very few images posted in threads? That's discouraged too, for some reason I dont quite understand. But you dont see much of it, and that's also censorship, except that is culturally driven as it's the posters themselves who respond to mods guidance and decline to make posts containing lots of images. And it's the same with swearing. My guidance on swearing came from @Mascara^Snake, so you can thank her for the "please dont swear" thing, and on the whole, again, the reason there isnt more swearing here or in most places around us in fact, is again culturally driven.

    I'd welcome more of your thoughts in the line of your original post once pondered. But obviously with less swearing.
     
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    All true on self censorship in society @SubVerity

    Pictures seemingly tell a thousand words but posting any pic taken from the net takes no creativity or flair compared with that which has been shown by @beck and yourself in many posts. These take time and effort to put them on the page and that's what CM is about - people having their say - not posting hoards of pics, particularly in threads, IMHO

    As to the cussing and drinking, I did suggest for that reason we guide you unsteadily into the Bar @beck, but I was overruled - probably because you were more sober by then and we didn't want to tempt you with more vino :p
     
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    I dread to think what I would write if I got into an inebriated state! If I turned off my self induced censorship I could get into all sorts of bother.
     
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    well when i'm tipsy i fall over and cant write.
     
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    Oh @jemima that was good. Sooo funny I almost fell out of my chair laughing. I always love a good belly laugh. And I'm stone cold sober at the moment. Ok now back to this cussing thread. Thanks jem.
     
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    personally I've always thought marriage should be kinda like a car lease with the option to buy at the end :D. I doubt the church would go for that lol.
     
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    ... ironically I absolutely self censored and have always done so. Yet the cultural boxing and classicist segregation disgusts me. Raw tone can be understood within words, until some of them are lost in translation or by muting. Adherence to such taboo is always a choice I believe. Letting culture shape art and literature seems backwards. But reaction can be every bit as powerful as action. Reaction to culture that wants to place a fence around certain behaviors and forms of expression is undoubtedly going to be to challenged. Maybe I'm a dog. Sleeping in the sun all day. Waiting for watching eyes to turn away. Sniffing and searching through scat, for a tasty snack.

    I'd like to add this for now: Richard Dawkins is far more influential for me than say, someone like the Pope. But damn that Catholic school girl fantasy is hot.
     
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    There was a Catholic convent girls school not far from the boys school I went to.

    Some fantasies are deep seated and the origin for them is obvious. Damn, those girls got to me.
     
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    i was only saying what happen to me really.
     
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    Ok. New theory on Monogamy.
    As defined by the major dictionaries and resource data bases, monogamy can be divided into subsections: marital, social, sexual, and genetic. Science also draws many clear distinctions between the animal kingdom and human monogamy, and with that in mind any and all comparisons to the animal kingdom are merely for entertainment or complete hypothetical purposes. With these specific distinctions in mind, it is really just easier to understand them as in contrast to bigamy or polygamy. One partner equates monogamy. Simple. Or is it?
    We all have peers, neighbors, friends, and family, at least I hope you do. These beings in our lives are the fuel for comparison. There in lies the issue I have with monogamy. We may keep a single exclusive partner for sex, but depend upon those that we know, even if in complete secrecy from them, for vitality and enrichment. Have you ever been out with friends, or at a family party with your partner and afterward had a wonderful sexual interaction? It would almost seem as though the juxtaposition of your own relationship to others can make you appreciate what you have all that much more. And quite conversely sometimes the comparison can do great harm through jealousy or envy. But it is the interaction outside of a relationship that keeps it from stagnation. I wonder if all relationships underwent some kind of purposeful stress test, or deviation from sexual exclusivity, if we'd all be that much happier and more in touch with real true love. Another example that comes to mind is that of the professional dominatrix. Couples can utilize such a professional to show them how to better understand each other, just as they might in couples therapy, only not nearly as boring and mentally draining. My original premise of 'monogamy is not conducive toward couples practicing chastity' has evolved to as pertaining only to possibly only sexual monogamy. Genetic, Marital and social are interdependent on other people and their experiences by better informing and enhancing the relationship and how it progresses into the future. It sometimes "takes a village" to get certain tasks done. This brings me back to you, oh Mansion of Chastity, and all of your participants. I thank you for enhancing my life, and allowing me to peek into yours.
     
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    Again I'm reminded of Alain Do Botton, who has a theory that we are living in the Age of Romance.

    His idea is that many (most) of our notions of what constitutes a 'normal' relationship, how we court, fall in love, behave once married, etc. are born of comparison to romantic literature chiefly from the late 18thC. And that this is less than useful.

    Here he is explaining himself. For over an hour. It's worth a listen, preferably with a partner and a giggle.
    I think he's a prime candidate for being introduced to the benefits of chastity.

    There are shorter versions, but he makes his point more eloquently in this one.
     
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