[Mega Review] Lori #2

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    This review is intended to provide some value to those considering a premium chastity device prior to such a large expenditure of money. In researching prior to my purchase I was somewhat disappointed to find so few reviews available in helping me make a decision. Thus I attempt to give something back to the community.

    Background
    In May of 2009 I had my first training session with my Lady. Prior to that session I had a vivid dream involving forced chastity, something I had never had any interest in before. The suddenness and intensity of the dream was surprising. Even more surprising was at that first session being told that I was to be locked up in chastity. From that point forward my view on chastity within a D/s and BDSM context took on new meaning. Having the lock secured on my then CB-2000 was one of the most powerful and submissive feelings I had ever felt.

    Sadly, be it design or my own anatomy, the CB-2000 device did not work well for us. Quite quickly it was apparent that the device would be too painful to wear. After many weeks where my top time continuously locked up peaked at 18 hours -- a feat that was quite painful to achieve -- I sought help here on these very forums. Finding that the CB-2000 was a good starter chastity I immediately purchased the CB-6000. While an improvement and much more comfortable the same issues of tightness, poor fit, and chafing made long-term wear too painful to endure. At best was 24 hours of wearing and then several days of recovery after that.

    During that time my Lady was very patient and thats when the topic of metal, custom-made chastity devices came up. Mistress Loris creations were wildly known and were our first stop. Of course, prior to such a purchase I sought out many opinions from folks.

    Being unpierced there are only limited options available to me. Of them, the Lori #2 seemed the best compromise. Partly attractive because the penis was caged and able to be interacted with, a plus with my Lady who enjoyed CBT (did I mention she was a sadist?). Wanting to provide my Lady with everything that she desired, I contacted Mistress Lori for an order.

    Ordering
    My first question was one to leverage her experience as to the right device for me. With a smallish penis and high, tight scrotum, I was concerned that I would run into the same wearing issues that I had with the CB-series. Mistress Loris initial response wasnt particularly helpful; all of her devices would suffice, she proclaimed.

    Research into the #2 yielded only two results, although I found two other users of the device. Two were very happy with their purchase, one frustrated (sizing issues), and another outright unhappy (fit, weight). So going in I thought I knew everything.

    Loris website isnt particularly friendly to new visitors, including information on measuring. Based on comments from others, there was some concern regarding fit and the size of the anti-pullout pins used in the device. Although you cannot see them on Loris website, there are four small pins on the #2 to help capture the penis and prevent pullout.

    Tape measure in hand I measured and re-measured. Heck, I even re-measured a third time. My undoing was being a bit shy about the pins and adding some slack room. Bad idea. When reviewers tell you to be precise we mean it. Dont fudge the numbers! Submitting the order and the payment I dutifully waited.

    Unfortunately Lori doesnt give you any feedback as to creation time or details as to when to expect your device. In a few weeks I had a business trip that would take me out of town and concerned that no one would be home to sign for a package, I dropped Mistress Lori a line to let her know.

    Its worth mentioning that I had already been told by folks that dealing with Lori can be a trying experience. She doesnt particularly seem to like working with males. Forewarned I was exceedingly polite, thanked her at every opportunity, etc. So I was a bit surprised with the terse reply (but speedy!) that I received, stating that her devices are hand crafted and take weeks. Short version: dont call us, well call you.

    And then another month passed.

    No updates forthcoming and certainly no desire on my end to inquire as to when the device may be ready. It was quite a surprise when one Friday morning a package did show up, my #2 inside it.

    Eagerly pulling it out I could hardly wait to put it on. The first thing I noticed was that it was extremely heavy! And solid. Well, thats to be expected with a metal device. The base ring was comfortable and easily put on. Feeding the penis into the cage was simple enough but it was immediately obvious that the cage was too large. There was literally 1/8 of an inch clearance around the inside of the cage, allowing the penis to flop casually in (or just as easily, out). The cage was also extremely long, which was a surprise as my length measurement was (ahem) quite small. Getting an erection was somewhat amusing, watching the penis grow to fill the cage then press up against the bars, squirting out like some overripe tomato.

    Unfortunately pulling the penis out was casually easy. Even worse, the device literally fell off after a few minutes, the gap between the base ring and cage a massive 1 wide! Upon further inspection I also noted that the #2 only had two pins, not four.

    I cleaned and packaged up the device to send back and composed the e-mail to Mistress Lori. I dreaded that part.

    Take Two For #2
    Surprisingly the response (again, quick!) was more friendly than I anticipated. The device had three problems, one of which was clearly mine. First, the interior measurement of the cage was over 1/8 of an inch too large. That was entirely my fault and a mis-measurement. The second issue was the ring/cage gap. At 1 wide that was nearly double what my balls could escape through. Using a CB-6000 and setting it properly, I cannot escape from a gap smaller than 9/16. Third, the missing pins.

    Mistress Lori indicated for me to send the device back. I didnt press for details. From others I have heard there is a fee for resizing but in my case the entire device had to be remade. Would I be charged again? Not wanting to tempt fate I decided to let Mistress Lori handle matters and stay out of her hair.

    Six weeks later...

    Yes, thats right. Nothing heard for over six weeks. No updates and no word as to whether I would be charged. Then, suddenly, a package arrived with my #2. I did note in the intervening time that my old #2 appeared on Loris In Stock page, selling at the full price that I paid for. So apparently returns are simply sold as new to customers.

    The device was new in some ways -- smaller cage, tighter fit, four pins -- and the same in others -- heavy, non-usable.

    While this device secured the penis much better it was still possible to pullout. The four pins -- two on the lower portion of the cage, two on the upper portion of the ring -- seem to fill no useful purpose. They dont meaningfully hinder pullout in anyway (for me). In fact the two pins on the ring simply hurt when you have an erection, pressing up against the stiff flesh.

    The original unit fit snugly on the ring and secured well. The new one was a poor fit. Holding it up to the light I could clearly see that the entire cage is supported on one leverage point. The locking screw barely taps in, perhaps as little at 1/8 of an inch. This means, metal or not, any good amount of weight will likely snap the cage off at the screw.

    Worse of all was that the ring/cage gap was still a gulf of over 7/8. Mistress Lori must be used to making devices for porn stars, because my balls are considerably smaller than 7/8!

    Twelve weeks into the process and $342 later I had a very expensive paperweight.

    The #2 Design
    Its a sturdy device, no doubt. Made of stainless steel, the #2 is quite comfortable to wear for short periods. After a longer period the weight does become more and more of an issue. The base ring has a thickness of 3/16 and a width of 7/16 -- nearly 1/2! Why the ring is so large I cannot say. Certainly it could be much smaller, reducing the weight of the device.

    The cage fits over a screw hole on top of the ring, secured by a keyed screw (more on that later). Tightened down the cage does not move; there is no play. On one hand it makes the device sturdy but the lack of play causes some issues. The penis and testicles tend to move and shift around a bit and the #2 is unforgiving in that respect. This sometimes causes pinching of the skin. For example, a motorcycle ride on the #2 as a passenger (sliding back and forth) was less than pleasant with the device on.

    The cage bulb seems overly large. It also sticks out a noticeable amount. For some folks this means no tight pants. Even with my smallish size, the #2 sticks out a good 2 1/2 from my body.

    From a comfort perspective the #2 is better than the CB-series and their plastic rings. The base ring is tight and snug. The cage does not press down or irritate the testicles, likely due to the fact that the cage hangs out more than down. This also is partly why the ring/cage gap is so large.

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    Security
    Like the CB-series and other chastity devices for the unpierced, the #2 is a trapped ball design. That is the ring goes around your penis and scrotum, the balls hanging through. The penis goes in the device and the cage secures to the ring, creating a gap that the balls hang through. The gap (in theory) is large enough to allow blood flow and comfort yet too small for the balls to pull back through. Thus the device is secured on.

    Mistress Loris devices are unique in that she offers an integrated lock option. In short this is a specialized screw design that locks the cage onto the base ring. The head of the screw is unique (to my knowledge) and near-impossible to replicate. Its unlike anything Ive seen before; its no torx screw or the like. Plus the integrated screw keeps the form factor of the #2 small, no dangling luggage lock like on other chastity devices. It is truly ingenious!

    The Lock (pictured)
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    Even the most secure device is worthless if you can pullout. Pullout, as the name implies, is the ability to simply pull the penis out of the device -- although it may still be attached via the balls -- and manipulate said penis (to orgasm). On the #2 this is easily done. The four pins inside the device do little to deter pullout. After pullout putting the penis back in is not entirely impossible, although the pins do make that a little difficult.

    Stimulating the penis inside the #2 is possible, although doubtful you could obtain orgasm. One interesting design of the #2 is that the head of the penis is relatively open for use. For example, one could insert a urethral sound into the penis quite easily while wearing the #2. I was able to urinate standing up withe the #2.

    Build Quality
    My first #2 was a rather unattractive, dull metallic color. My second is much better, buffed to a stainless shine. As I said the device is quite solid; perhaps overly built too thick.

    My first #2 had a very snug fit of cage to ring but my second is considerably worse. The cage hinges on one point and the locking screw does not screw in with much depth. While I have not tried to, with a little effort it should be easy to snap the screw in half as all the weight on the cage is carried by the screw. My disappointment in the build quality is that I noticed this poor fitting within a minute of opening the device. Certainly by spending an extra few minutes this could have been corrected during its creation.

    Notice how the cage is mounted and the gap
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    Customer Service
    I will try not to belabor this point but as others have noted, opinions on Mistress Loris customer service tend to be polarizing. I am no exception. While I took great pains to be respectful and have a smooth ordering experience it was anything but.

    When I enquired as to the build time I was tersely responded to. I was made to feel as an annoyance, not a valued customer. I never received any updates as to the progress of the device. In fact, my second #2 showed up before I received an e-mail from Lori indicating it had shipped!

    The website is not very good, details are hard to find and even the product page isnt entirely clear as to what picture goes with what product. Theres only one picture of any device and few details as to how it works, special sizing considerations, etc. The entire process feels slapdash and unprofessional.

    The lack of any feedback is particularly frustrating, as is the order in which devices are built, even corrections.

    Intangibles
    All this aside, its all forgivable if the device suits your needs. Sadly, it does not. Several hundred dollars later and over 12 weeks I still do not have a functioning chastity device. Ive little desire to contact Mistress Lori to resolve because of the customer service issues noted above, nor do I have any great confidence that the third try will fix the issue. Worse of all this became a point of contention with my Lady and a source of sadness and frustration with her, having waited so long for a non-functioning device.

    Conclusion
    You hear the good and the bad with Mistress Lori and it saddens me that mine is one of the bad. The frustrating thing is that many of these problems are fixable. The website could easily be upgraded to be easier to use and more professional. The customer service could easily be solved by treating customer inquiries as serious interactions rather than annoyances. Status updates or estimated build times would defer some anxiety over ordering. The first-in, first-out ordering process needs to be looked at; returning a device to have it fixed because of an error on Loris end should put you at the front of the queue, not the back of it.

    All this said, I cannot recommend a Lori #2 device. For a lucky few it may work but at the very least plan on 12 weeks and two sizings to get one that works. Even then it will be large, heavy, and something of a crapshoot as to the quality. Buyer beware.

    The Good
    Ingenious locking system will not be easily defeated
    Integrated lock reduces profile of device

    The Bad
    Website, online ordering, production information
    Weight of device
    Customer service ranges from poor to non-existent
    Sizing difficult to get correct; little help available
    Price

    The Ugly
    Doesnt fit!
    Unsecure (pullout)
     
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    More Pictures

    Here are some pictures with the #2 being worn. I always get a little frustrated when people don't show their device being worn. :)

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    Cage on, but not locked down
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    Securing the cage on. Weeee!
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    Side profile, locked away
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    Front view
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    After pullout; device is still on
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    Pulling the entire device off; ring/cage gap far too large!
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    Took all of 15 seconds to remove
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    That's too bad your experiences with your Lori's tube. I totally agree that keeping you inform of progress, shipping. And even follow up on how its working out, would be in Ms Lori's best interest. She has a niche in this market of Chastity devices. One that should be easy to fill if one had the talent and time to fill. Good business practices in these times are the difference of making it, or going toward the waste side.

    As someone that has been considering a Lori's device for some time, the more tails of dissatisfied customers seems to out weight the satisfied ones. We all have spend money on something too make us happy and just the opposite happens. $400.00 plus for a paperweight is just not in my price range. I too would have to be the one dealing with Ms Lori, me being a male. As my wife supports Chastity, but leaves the finer dealings to me. I know if she was to get short with me, and having a bunch of my money tied up, I would just as upset as you are, and the others.

    So Tanya would be a purse wielding bitch on wheels if I was in your shoes, by the way what size do you wear?? Lol
    Feeling your pain, Missy Tanya
     
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    Firstly - thank you for an AMAZING review, that was perfect, and thank you for including so many pictures.

    Secondly - welcome to the very expensive world of Ms Lori paperweights - ours is up for sale in the Mall here!!!!

    I have to say that if she doesn't sort out her customer care she will be swiftly overtaken by the likes of Mature Metal...
     
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    I have to say our dealings with Mistress Lori were negative too. :-(

    After waiting 14 weeks my #18 arrived but was too big. When measuring she doesn't allow for the inch the ring and gap to the cage takes up. To fit this distance should be taken off the measurement you give her to work out cage length if that makes sense.

    Anyway it was sent back and three weeks later I got a new one with exactly the same problem. The actual cage was smaller but the distance from the ring to the piercing pin was exactly the same. She doesn't seem to get it.

    Several emails and stroppy replies from Lori had me demanding a refund which I eventually got. Lori is a practicing witch (not an insult just the truth) and the sting in the tail is she put a curse on my wife and mistress. A thoroughly unpleasant woman.

    We ended up getting a customised Steelworxx revenge which works extremely well (see avatar). It is so comfortable I can forget it is there unless I'm trying to get hard which it prevents very successfully. I can't get out of this without a key. Dietmar is superb to deal with.

    Mat
     
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    If you read my Lori #9 predicament you will see we had exactly the same issue.. I asked her if she'd allowed for that distance and was told that they "do this all the time".

    As the wife and daughter of engineers I knew that all my measuring was beyond accurate, we even sent PHOTOS of the measurements and they still screwed up!
     
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    Sorry to hear about all these problems with Lori's devices. Once again, I highly recommend Mature Metal for quick service, fair price, and a not-too-heavy device. I think it is almost a given that a chastity device will have to be "fine tuned" once you've had a chance to wear it for a bit. MM was always very quick to respond to my e-mails, and turn around time when I had to send my device back was only a few weeks.
     
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    Actually, I'm not upset. Apologies if I gave that impression. I did my research and knew the pitfalls going in and sure enough, it happened. While there aren't many #2 reviews around there are plenty of Lori reviews and most of them say the same thing. I'll just add my voice to the chorus: if you're considering a Lori device, beware. If you're not pierced you have other -- better, cheaper -- options!
    Size 11 but I don't get to crossdress as much as I'd like anymore.
    This is also what happened with my first #2. The cage was about 1/2" too long. It seems she adds the penis length onto the ring width, rather than subtracting that width from the overall length.

    If anyone has any specific questions regarding the #2 that I failed to cover, please ask.
     
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    Anti-pullout pins, KTB-like attachments, they don't work for many of us. You're either going to have circulation problems and body-parts drop off because the devices are too tight, or pullout is going to be easy. There is no sweet spot middle-ground. To be brutally honest if you want to prevent pull-out then you have to make that clear cut between reality and sexual fantasy and get a piercing. Anything else and you are going to end up disappointed with a heavy paperweight.

    Also, the #2 device looks like it will stick out like a tent (just like all plastic CB devices and all Mature Metal devices are inclined to do). As soon as one sits down they gouge out down a left or right pant leg, they are extremely noticeable. I'm not MC Hammer so I can't pull off wearing balloon pants everywhere I go, wearing a submarine down my trousers is fine as long as I'm standing but I need a clipboard every time I take a seat (from my experiences with a "The Curve" or whatever they are called)

    [edit] thanks for an honest review, honestly you did a great job presenting the cons of the device
     
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    I think that depends entirely on the size of the device and the cut of the pants. You can buy and wear pants that are loose in the crotch without looking like a rap singer. Also, though I have never owned a "Curve", they look to be much larger than later devices, such as the CB3K. If you think about it, you are only adding a little more bulk to what is already there, and most people are too self-conscious to stare at you crotch, anyway.
     
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    One of the best CB reviews I've ever seen.

    I inquired with Lori on three separate occasions and she couldn't be bothered to respond.

    However, I want to take an issue with your review - with ALL CB reviews actually. When it doesn't fit, we always blame ourselves for our measurements. There are simply too many cases of people being careful to measure and getting stuff *Wayyyyy* off. Including when they are measured in person by the manufacturer!

    I purchased a locked in steel belt, and Jillian there was very nice, but like your experience it took many weeks longer than promised, and in the end the delivered product was apparantly unrelated to the measurements I sent. Once through an adjustment (And extra cost) and, like you, an expensive paperweight.

    There needs to be FAR more onus on the manufacturers to be good with their measurements. There are just too many custom CB's purchased that don't fit. This isn't the customers fault, this is the manufacturers fault.

    As to Lori's being heavy, that is because they are cast. Cast uses way more material than is required, and that is what led me to Chris at Steelwerks extreme.

    I don't yet have a device from him, so I don't know if it will be the secure device I've been dreaming of, but the customer service is A+++ and he uses all precision milled stainless steel or titanium!! Now, this level of craftsmanship and quality is *NOT* cheap (I always laugh when I hear Lori's described as the cadillac of CB's...the quality (and cost) aren't even in the same league.)

    I did finally get a piercing because every chastity device I tried I could pull out of. Now I'm using a PA-5000 as a 'test bed' for my custom device from Steelwerks. I haven't had luck with my PA-5000 yet, but I'm getting closer.

    I wish you luck! I am looking forward to doing as extensive a review for Steelwerks as you have published here.
     
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    As a newbie here I don't want to step on anyone's toes but I just took delivery today of a Ms Lori #2 and my experience bears no resemblance at all to what has been described here. I ordered my device on Christmas weekend (a present for my wife) and had several pleasant emails with Ms Lori providing answers to my questions before I placed the order. She told me it would be finished in 45 days and delivery to me (on the other side of the country) was only a few days more than that despite the fact that I had ordered in the middle of the holiday season. I have had a number of email exchanges with her while waiting for my order and she has always been responsive and friendly. As for the device itself, I found it fit about as perfectly as I could want. Although it is heavier than the CB3000 I had been using I don't find the extra weight that significant and that is more than offset by the fact that the device is much more comfortable to wear. It is also less noticeable under clothes since, for me, it is much shorter than the CB3000. The open design should be much easier to keep clean. All I can say is that I am a totally pleased customer who has received excellent service and exactly what I ordered.
     
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    Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.

    As for the rest of your comments, I entirely agree. The onus should be on the manufacturer, not only for measurements but clear directions as to the measurements, tips, etc. As to the customer service, well that's something that clearly needs to be worked on.

    I think because chastity is a very niche industry that people are expecting a lower level of quality and service because there are so few vendors to go to. Yet we pay premium prices.

    In any event, I do want to highlight that the first series of mis-measurements were entirely my fault and I do take full responsibility for them.

    The ring/cage gap issue? Totally inexcusable, especially since I pointed it out when I returned the device and had the cage remade after the first time.
    Welcome to the forums.

    Not to dispute your claims, but registering specifically to post this makes it difficult to not perceive this as a potentially counter-advertising for Lori. That said, I am happy that someone did have a positive experience when ordering a #2 device from Lori.
     
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    Everyone has to have a first post. After having been a reader for a while I decided to register in order to express an opinion. If that is "evidence" of a planted submission on Lori's behalf then your bias is showing. My favorable experience with Lori should be as equally valid as those with less pleasant experiences. I am not a shill for her but I think it is only fair to state that not all customers are as dissatisfied as those who have posted. Reliance on posts from a few unhappy customers and generalized accusations that "lots of people are unhappy with Lori" doesn't lead to honest open discussion. Had I read only this discussion group before making my purchase I never would have bought from her. Fortunately, I did have the sense to seek out other opinions before deciding.
     
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    I think you're trying a bit too hard to find offense where none was intended.

    And I did extensive research before ordering a Lori #2 so my comments regarding dissatisfied customers was not a broad generalization; I can cite several experiences to support it. A simple search on these forums and others, for example. So perhaps your bias is coloring your opinion as well.

    Again, congratulations on your purchase. Perhaps you should post your own extensive review.
     
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    Lori's answer

    This customer is upset, he is right about the device ring not fitting correctly, I just did not catch it before it was sent out. But lets keep in mind he is the one who measured wrong and sent it back to be changed. When ever a device is sent back to be changed it does not always come out as pretty as they originally were. He asked for the ring to be made to trap his testies and this is why it fits like it does standing out. I welcome Abulia to send it back and we will make the ring right. I have seen a few reviews that are slamming me here at Chastity mansion. It also appears Ms Watchfull has had a problem as well, if you still have the device please send it back or contact me to make arangements to have your device changed. Everybody has a bad day now and again and if I has spoken to some of you rudely it was not intentional. I usually am to the point and I may have come off short. Sometimes it takes a review of this sorts as a wake-up call. Sometimes problems cannot be solved to everyones expectations. Most you you who know me or have had dealings with me know I try to be fair and create a product that not only looks good but is secure. If you are having a problem with a product, before you announce it to the wold on a forum using words that can never be removed, you should try and work things out with the seller of a device whether it is a Lori's or someone else's product.
    Ms.Lori

    You will find that most of us will do what it takes to see that you get your problems are addressed.
     
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    I respond to all who e-mail me, if I did not respond to you it is because your e-mail did not get to me, Or it is possible my e-mail back to you went to your spam folder. Please check it. Just for th record our devices are not cast. They are made from 316L stainless steel.
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    I respond to all who e-mail me, if I did not respond to you it is because your e-mail did not get to me, Or it is possible my e-mail back to you went to your spam folder. Please check it. Just for the record our devices are not cast. They are made from 316L stainless steel.
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    I would like to take care of the problems you are having with a device from me. Please e-mail me at chastity4u2@yahoo.com and lets get the problems ironed out. I do not go to the forums much and I was a little surprised at some of the posts. Lets get things back on tract for you.
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    While I agree entirely that people who have problems with chastity devices should make an effort to resolve those problems with the seller.. I can't agree that they shouldn't talk about it on a forum.

    The whole reason that forums like this exist is that there is a need to share both information AND feelings and thoughts about chastity devices. Most people here are quite smart enough to know when they are reading opinion and when they are reading information!

    Our problems should be discussed, just as our successes, failings, trials and tribulations are.
     
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    Actually, I'm not upset. More disappointed than anything.

    This is the second time this has been stated in this thread. It seems as if there is the appearance that if someone posts a negative review/experience that they are doing to to "get back" at the manufacturer or to cajole them into making things right. The intent of my review was never anything more than to express my experience with ordering a Lori #2 device. It just so happens that said experience was negative.

    Were I out to simply slam the manufacturer I wouldn't have taken such lengths to write such an extensive review, praised the locking system, or even offered suggestions at the end as to how to improve things. My opinions are just that, my own. I stand by my review as factual and accurate.

    I did my research prior to ordering and heard several negative things regarding Mistress Lori's customer service and folks who were unhappy (and a few that were happy) with their #2. I still decided to order and, unfortunately, had an experience mirrored by several others. Plus I mis-measured the first time (which, again, I take full responsibility for) so I've really no one to blame but myself.

    The worst part was letting down my Lady and the fact that this multi-month ordeal really negatively impacted our use and enjoyment of chastity. So, mentally, I've written off the #2 as a total loss. Thus the review to educate others as to the potential pitfalls of ordering from Mistress Lori. Their experience may well differ from mine.

    I appreciate the willingness to fix and will consider it. At the time when I received the product after another lengthy delay it wasn't something I was eager to contact you over to resolve. My patience had worn out. I shouldn't have to jump through hoops and spend several months to receive a working device after three tries!

    I've already addressed what I feel is appropriate as to why reviews like this are necessary. But more importantly I believe you should fully embrace the opportunity to hear such feedback. It isn't just me but several of your customers that have issues. Clearly your customer service has issues (real or perceived) and your quality assurance as well. If this thread helps bring these shortcomings to light and causes you to seek remediation on them then I will have considered this thread -- and my time investment -- well-spent.

    Thank you for your comments and stepping forward. That was likely not an easy thing to do.
     
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    Ms Lori, thank you for your comments.

    I don't want to hijack this thread with our issues but I can assure you we tried and TRIED to resolve the problems with our device with you.

    Unfortunately our main problem was that pet isn't circumsized and we have come to realise a pierced device just will not work with a male with a foreskin.

    As for incorrect measuring by people, we sent you photos of our measurements as well as stating them and it was STILL wrong... so we couldn't be to blame on that point.

    I have replied to your private message, we are selling our device and will not be requiring adjustments.

    I still think you have wonderful pierced products for UNCIRCUMSIZED males and that should be made a lot clearer on your site to avoid issues like our own.

    We hold no grudges. At the time we felt like we were on an emotional rollercoaster and our bitterness will have come out in our postings, but since then I think you should be able to see that we respect your product, and recognize that there are MANY happy males around the world for whom it works.
     
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    Another review of the Lori #2

    Since I seem to be the one who started this ruckus, I apologize if I reacted too strongly to comments. Since I have said I am happy with my Lori #2, it only makes sense for me to post a review of my own. Mine is not nearly as extensive as what has been posted here already, and it is more in the form of personal impressions rather than a detailed review. I'll be glad to answer any questions anyone may have.

    Review of Ms Lori’s #2 Device:

    When I signed a serious 24/7 chastity contract with my wife last year, I knew that I was going to have to purchase a chastity cage other than the CB3000 we had played with for a few years. I did some online searching and decided that Ms Lori’s #2 design was just what I was looking for. Although Ms Lori is best known for her tubes for piercings the #2 looked like it should provide a non-pierced guy security, comfort, and good hygiene (a key deficiency of the CB3000 as far as my wife was concerned). I had a few questions about measurements which Ms Lori responded to quickly by email.

    The device came in almost exactly the 45 days Ms Lori promised. After I figured out how to put on a testie ring that didn’t have a hinge, it fit well which was no surprise since I had used the dimensions of the ring I was using with the CB3000. Once the ring is in place, the cage bolts to it easily. It fit well and I was pleasantly surprised that some of the things I had been concerned about were not problems. I had read that the weight of the steel device had bothered some users, but I hardly notice the difference between it and the plastic item. Possibly this is because my testie ring fits somewhat snugly, which allows it to take up the weight without it “hanging” on my balls. My other concerns were the spikes that Ms Lori puts on the testie and cage rings. It turns out that describing them as spikes makes them seem more frightening than they are. In reality, they are small, slightly pointed “bumps” that do help to prevent easy pull-out (for me at least). They also serve another, more sinister purpose but I’ll discuss that later.
    I’ve been locked in my cage since it arrived and my wife is determined to see how long I can go without relief. Wearing it full-time is not difficult, the shorter tube (compared to the CB) makes it easy to conceal under clothing and cleaning is much easier and more effective. The “slotted” design of the tip makes it possible to pee standing up, but it is still a bit risky if you don’t want to look like you’ve just wet your pants.

    As a chastity device, the #2 design, if fitted properly, eliminates the possibility of “jacking the tube” or otherwise achieving an orgasm. From my measurements Paulie made a cage that is just over inch longer than my most relaxed length. This extra length is just about the amount I grow when slightly touched, watching a pretty girl, beginning to think about sex, etc. However, any serious fantasies, for example, result in my cock being rammed into the end of the cage. Furthermore, since my cock’s length is so restricted, it seems to swell more than usual and that is when the spikes really get noticed! For me the device acts like a “mind control” system with a lot of negative feedback—think too many “bad thoughts” and I get punished.

    One additional aspect of the device that goes along with this concept is its extremely open design. I was surprised how much access there is to both the sides and tip of my cock. It is easy to get quite a pleasurable sensation from stroking it if I want to “pretend” I’m masturbating but within a few seconds I’m up against the end of the tube and the spikes. So the pleasure is very short-lived. This creates a great “mind fuck” since there’s the possibility of a little pleasure if one wants to put endure some pain. My wife also enjoys the easy access, also and now insists that we “spoon” naked in bed so my cock can press up against her. It’s not hard to imagine what happens after a few minutes in that position. Also she has quickly realized that it is a far more effective punishment for bad behavior than is something like spanking.

    All in all we are very satisfied with our purchase. I’m working at trying to get released as a birthday present in a couple of months, but so far my wife keeps adding time to my prison stay so I’m not too sure I’ll get the chance. Maybe I should try for Christmas or my next birthday! LOL
     
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    I realise both this thread and the last post on it are over 8 years old
    It appears that any and all photographs of the Lori devices in this thread are no longer there.

    Obviously we wonder why especially when there are comments about the quality of the review and the photographs that were an integral part of said review.

    Is anyone able to shed any light on this please?
     
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