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    I only joined a short while ago and have been reading various threads and posts to learn what I can. I have seen a lot of what sure looks like fantasy being posted as 'real' and I am happy to see folks calling it out as such. It helps assure me that at least some of the people on here have actual experience!

    I'm posting here as it seems like the best fit. It is a long post, so sorry about that. I feel I need to give all the background to give folks an idea of where things currently stand. I'm not sure where things are going as far as me being locked up and I'd be curious to hear from others if this is a common way for things to start. I also don't have anyone else to ask about this, so lucky you.

    My wife is pretty vanilla and I'm the driving force behind the various kinks in our sex life. By way of background, we have played with orgasm denial for many years and she has no problem ending sex after she is happy regardless of if I got to O too. She locked me up once several years ago, but she really didn't like it and I didn't push for it either for a variety of reasons. I pretty much left it in the drawer for years. I tried self locking for a weekend or so here and there, but never really got into it.

    About a month ago, at maybe 3AM I finally just said 'Oh my God, will you please just lock me up'? My poor exasperated wife said 'Fine.'

    To be clear, this was not anything close to a fantasy moment.

    We have a new baby (our 1st) and sleep is precious. My wife's maternity leave ran out and she had to go back to work. Breastfeeding has been a major challenge. I was furloughed until Monday when the government finally reopened. Our sex life was pretty much nonexistent, not because of any massive marital issue but mainly due to stress, exhaustion and the fact that (PIV) sex isn't comfortable / working well for her right now. I'd given up and been taking care of myself for a while, without telling her. When it came up I didn't deny it. She got upset and I told her I would stop. But I did explain that I was using it to help me sleep sometimes and also I couldn't just turn off my sex drive and that I wanted to feel connected to her somehow. I think I mentioned locking me up as an option, but she certainly didn't say ok to that. After a few weeks I was getting horny and it was keeping me awake at times when I really needed to (go back to) sleep. I mentioned that to her and she didn't really reply, but heard it. I reached a breaking point several days later. The baby woke us up. After we got him back down, I was super horny and having trouble falling asleep. I was tossing and turning and she asked what was wrong. I told her I was horny. She nearly cried and said she was exhausted (and she was!). I asked if I could just take care of it myself and she said no. And that is how we got to 'Will you please just lock me up' and 'Fine'.

    I put on the cage and she locked it with one of those numbered plastic locks. We both went back to bed. In the morning I made up a little chart for her to keep track of the number of the lock and I told her to just make sure the number was the same when she cut it off. I gave her lots of suggestions on how to make this work. And I did honestly try to be kinder and more helpful to her.

    I stayed locked for several days. She let me out to go work out and I didn't ask her to lock me up when I got home. Nothing happened the next day either. Eventually I asked her about it. We talked and I explained that I was surprised at how big of a difference it had made for me. I told her that I wasn't sure I really wanted to be locked up but I was convinced that I needed to be. She expressed a number of misgivings. She did notice I had been helpful in a way or two, but that it wasn't like night and day. She also complained that she felt like she was just trying to do what I needed, rather than what she needed. I acknowledged that she was right about that, and agreed to comply with whatever needs she had. I got permission to order more plastic locks (and I also ordered a better fitting cage).

    Still nothing happened and a week went by. Every few days I would bring it up again and she would ask to talk about it later. I started to worry that I was pushing my luck to even bring it up. She clearly wasn't comfortable talking about it (she has never liked talking about sex much) and with everything else going on in our lives I think it was too much for her to think about. I started giving up hope. I tried one more time and it didn't go well at all. And so I gave up. I threw away the chart I had made and just said to myself 'forget it'.

    I was not happy and I am sure she picked up on that. To my surprise, a day later when we finally had a moment alone she brought it up by simply saying 'OK, so you wanted to talk about it.' So we talked about it again. We agreed that she would make up a list of things I needed to do to help her (i.e. chores around the house type stuff). She made up the list and gave it to me. I said OK. Still nothing happened that night, but the next day I asked 'when' she eventually said 'OK, hop to it' and soon enough she clicked a plastic lock in place and jotted the lock number down on a new chart.

    She locked me up on the 19th. Apart from a few cleanings and a work out I've been locked up since then. Happily the new device is fitting better and like others have mentioned here, after a week or so it got a lot more comfortable to wear. The smaller size made a big difference. I've been knocking out everything on the list she gave me and trying to throw some sugar on top in the form of foot rubs and offers to help. I think she has noticed. Last night I helped her have an O. It was the first time I have ever done that while locked up.

    We have not talked about it since the 19th (other than me asked to be let out to clean / work out). I don't know if this is ending tomorrow, or if this is the new normal. I don't know if she is just putting up with this, or if she is seeing the benefit and wants it to continue. I don't know if I am going to get let out for an O at some point, or if she thinks I am taking care of that when I clean. I'm scared to talk to her for fear she will end it again.

    We will need to talk at some point. I'm thinking this weekend I will bring it up and ask how it is going and what the plan is. Any suggestions on how to have that conversation are welcome!
     
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    Thanks for sharing your story.

    What many of us seem to have learned — and the best advice I’ve gotten here — is to be patient. And then more patient than that.

    I would not initiate a conversation for at least another couple of weeks if it were me. This is your thing - not hers. Give her lots of time and space. At most I might say “do you want to talk?” and if she says “no” or “not now” back off immediately.

    For many, it seems that the most important learning is thru experience - in particular thru experiencing what *you* do and how your behavior changes - not thru what you say. Of course, every couple is different.
     
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    Right now you have a new baby and your wife had to go back to work. You should do your share of the household and baby chores without the chastity device (sorry!). Don't turn it into a blackmail situation.

    You are putting more stress on her just when she doesn't need it. That's what she will remember.
     
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    Kids have changed a lot with us too.
    The only difference is, she was into keeping me locked before we had them. So she had no problem locking me up when she had no interest in me.

    Now, you must accept the fact you gave her the right to decide when you will be locked and unlocked. So forget about that conversation you are planning. I would leave it up to her. She will talk about it when she will have the need to.
     
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    I appreciate your frankness and honesty. And I agree with what you said 100%. I am not sure it applies to me though. Wife went back to work and I stayed home with the baby and took on that role for a while. We are now both back at work and baby goes to daycare.

    I see a lot of stories on here of guys who say all they used to do is jerk off and watch porn and then they got locked up and suddenly realized they should help out with domestic responsibilities. That isn't me. I assure you, I do my share of the household and baby chores and have been doing so before we had the baby. The thing that has changed is that I have now started taking on some of hers and I'm trying to increase mine even further. And it makes sense as there are new chores to deal with and she has some stuff she needs to do that are just huge time sucks (breastfeeding). I will honestly say being locked up helps though. More than I would have believed. I am a lot more inclined to WANT to do more, instead of feeling obligated (or annoyed) to do more. That for me is probably the biggest win for US as a couple from this new situation.
     
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    Hi thanks for sharing your story it seems that however it has happened it has happened and you have at least been placed into the device as you had wanted. The next part in this story is now firmly down to your wife and no matter how aroused or excited you may be feeling to gently push this on to your next level inside your mind it really is not the right time to do this, i can say from personal experience being married to someone similarly vanilla it would be a huge mistake to try and move things any further forward at this time. You have the device in place with your wifes knowledge and that is a huge first step especially for her and whether this is the furthest she is prepared to go remains to be seen but attempting to raise the issue before she is ready will have the wrong response. Just enjoy the fact that you are locked for however long it lasts and if it ends then accept it gracefully and maybe your wife will at some point try it again something she will be more likely to do if there are no reminders of pressur being put on her to do so however well meaning they may be on your part. This is something that you want and the best you can hope for is that she will notice the calming effect it has on you but if she fails to notice now that doesnt mean she will not at some point remember this period again and action a repeat when it suits her. Just enjoy what you are sharing now with her and hopefully you will one day see her enjoy iy too.
     
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    I'm sure it helps you. But you have to establish in your mind and hers that you would want to do more, even if the device disappeared tomorrow.
     
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    There is a clear trend in the suggestions here, so I will hold off on bringing it up with her for now. If she wants to talk about it, I'll let her bring it up.

    With that said, I think it is worth pointing out that I have and will continue to need to ask her to let me out and then lock me back up, so I can't avoid mentioning it completely. I need to clean things, probably more often than normal, plus I can't work out while locked (she agrees on that point) and working out is part of the list she gave me. It is this asking her part that makes me nervous. So far it has gone OK though, although I must admit I can't read her to figure out how she feels when I ask.
     
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    Yes. Excellent advice, short and sweet.
     
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    I am sort of the chastity anti-christ on this site but I would ask how accepting is she with your other "kinks". There isn't any reason to think chastity play should be any different. Right now this is just a form of play to enhance your relationship, not a lifestyle change or relationship changer. Have fun with it and it will go where it will go.
     
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    Just a quick update. No major talks and I haven't pushed her to share her thoughts or asked her any big questions or made any kind of request other than to be let out for cleaning and then locked back up.

    We have spoken of it briefly a number of times though. She hasn't had anything to say really, but I have told her how much I want to be helpful to her, and how being locked up really helps me in that regard. I will say that she has listened and nodded her head to show she understands and has been quite accepting as best I can tell. I'm also regularly asking what more I can do for her.

    The last time I was released for cleaning, last night actually, she said to just leave the lock on the counter and she would lock me back up when she was ready. It was late to begin with, and I got dressed after the shower and went about my normal routine of washing dishes etc. My mind was a constant buzz of 'will she remember?' 'Will she decide she doesn't want to do it anymore?'. As it got later and later I started thinking it wasn't going to happen. She finally asked 'Bedtime'? I assumed that was it. She had either forgotten, or just wasn't up to it at the time. I did my best though to not let it bother me. It's up to her I reminded myself. So I said yea, I was all set, let's head upstairs. 'Good, I'm so tired', which I knew was true.

    As I put the last dish in the drying rack she grabbed the plastic lock from the counter and said 'Ok let's go' and started walking towards the bathroom to lock me up. The way she said it was devoid of any frustration, annoyance or sense of mental strain. It was a simple request that she seemed perfectly comfortable making.

    I apologized and told her I wasn't wearing the cage yet. She took a half second to understand what I said and then said 'Ok, let's just do it upstairs then. I want to take a shower quick.' Ten minutes or so later when she finished showering she clicked the lock back in place and I thanked her.
     
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    sounds a good result all round, it is a slow process trying to change things but enjoy the journey.
     
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    You haven't mentioned what device you're using, but the reference to numbered plastic locks says it's not one of the metal devices with the internal barrel lock. Get yourself a small open steel cage. This will allow cleaning while caged and also allow working out, thus reducing this daily need to ask your wife to unlock and relock you.
     
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    I'm in a 6000s. Wife has concerns about using anything that requires a key. She worries that if something ever happened and I end up in an ER I won't be able to take it off. I don't think it is a realistic concern, but I wasn't going to argue with her about it.

    With that said, I'm open to other devices, especially ones that make cleaning easier. They will need to be able to take an external lock though. Also, she and I both agree that being locked up while 'working out' is a no go. I play a full contact sport for exercise, and doing it while wearing a cage just sounds unsafe. Plus I do enjoy watching her lock me up, and this helps that happen.
     
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    I'm doubled locked. I have the standard padlock and a numbered security tag my wife places on me. I carry my key 24/7 with me just in case. The only way to remove the cage is to destroy her security tag. Thus, she'll know if I had my cage off. This has worked for us for years now. My wife records the number on her phone and it better be the tag when she's ready to cut if off. I joke with her that it's been on so long the white paint of the numbers is washing away!! She's not amused. :)
     
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    I at first thought there would e no way I could be active and stay locked. I worked outside, walked a lot, and bent and lifted things. It turned out that it never interfered with anything. I however had a small steel cage, and everything was kept close without swinging around etc. A plastic 6000 device might be a bit clunky for much movement.

    There are plenty of devices, fairly cheap if you want to experiment, the post style where you use a padlock sounds like one you would prefer, you can even use a plastic lock if she’s worried about emergency situations.
     
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    good luck to you both
     
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    Good luck to you! Patience and communication are both pretty important.
     
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    Here's something that might help. It sounds like she's exhausted. Buy her a night in a fancy hotel. Send her there in a limo and take care of the kid yourself for a day. She'll love the break and the time to herself. I sense you're on thin ice as she's pretty spent. If you're really into this, as others have said, try to be patient. I'm amazed how far my situation has come but it was really gradual. Good luck
     
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    I always appreciate suggestions. This one however isn't viable. I'd be happy to do the watching the kid part of it, but we are breastfeeding and she doesn't want to have time away from the kid, cause it just means having to pump. Never mind the $ aspect of fancy hotels and limos....
     
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    By way of an update, we did recently have a brief chat. Well, we actually had a very long talk, but it wasn't about me being locked up. Just general martial management and a discussion of issues we face and ongoing challenges in our marriage. It wasn't exactly fun, but it was necessary and just part of being married.

    After it was over and a bit of time had passed I asked her if she wanted to just let me out and be done with the whole thing. I did so kindly and honestly without any strings attached and in the context of our earlier discussion. I made it clear that I didn't want to continue being locked up if she didn't feel like she was getting something out of it. I also tried to explain that it just wouldn't work for me if I felt like she was just locking me up because I asked. I didn't explain self locking, but to folks here who know what that is, all I did was say that I didn't want to just self lock... I needed it to really be up to her if we were going to do this or not.

    I honestly didn't know how she would respond. I won't lie and say I was shocked, but I was actually a little surprised at how fast she said "No, it's fine." She then mentioned that she really liked that she no longer had to worry about breakfast and how helpful that was. (As part of the deal, I make sure she has breakfast ready every day, and she eats oatmeal for now cause it helps with breastfeeding supposedly.)

    So, I'm still locked up. And at this point I'm starting to think it is probably going to continue for a months.
     
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    I understand your Wife's concern- this is simply overcome by you carrying the spare key, but sealed in a small envelope that she has signed- and the wrapped in a layer of clear tape, thus making it very tamper-evident.It lives in your wallet. If you cheated I guess she would call a halt, so you won't, BUT in that hospital situation you would call her an explain before opening the envelope. This is the same security/access as the plastic lock, yes?

    Anyway, good luck, and congratulations on the baby adding to your family.
     
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    And so, your patience pays off... :)
    The fact that she remembered on her own, at the end of a long day is a huge win.
    Stay steady, let her drive, even if it takes years.
     
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    I just wanted to help share my experience as my wife and I have had 2 children in the last 3 years.

    Your wife is exhausted and really could careless about what you want right now. I went through this as well. It's not as if she doesn't care she just doesn't have the energy to manage it all. Pregnancy and child birth does have a serious impact on female hormones, body, energy levels and mental state. I too felt like my sex life was dying a horribly painful and slow death and any mention of it somehow was me putting my needs ahead of hers. Its a difficult situation for both sides as she has her energy levels and feelings and so do you. Do know that in time it gets a lot better. I would suggest treading lightly for now. Let it play out. Its so hard to do. I too struggle with the urge to talk about it all the time because my mind is on her and it all the time. This will only drive her crazy. She willingly locked you back up. That is a huge huge thing. I am at a point where my wife is starting to embrace this. I can say that being locked does give her the freedom to deny me and not have it become an issue because she is in charge. What you have to remember is that by locking you up, it places a certain pressure on her to control when you get off and she has to bare that burden that she is in control of you at all times and she cannot forget you because ultimately you will feel rejected. Try to make it easier on her by removing as much pressure as you possibly can. Sometimes we have to enjoy our chastity in silence and remember that by wanting her to be in charge this means we have to consider her feelings (even the ones she doesn't show) at all times. This is by no means an easy task to accomplish.

    My personal situation started out quite slow. The first time i wore the cage she was like 'do you really have to sleep with it on?'. Now i've been locked for a month and she doesn't seem to care to unlock me at all. She's said she notices the benefits of keeping me locked. I have to remember that those benefits are me doing way more for her and massaging her when she wants. The benefit is not that she has to think about my penis being locked or that I want to do sexual things all the time. Thats the drawback. So bare that in mind, its your burden to carry the frustration and urges. It's hers to live how she wants and have you abide.

    Have a good one!
     
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