Discussion in 'The Tower' started by Mistress Lucy, Nov 27, 2016.
He already said he stopped responding, then responded.
A bit like the friendly neighbour who knocks on your door to tell you that they're just popping out for a bit.
I'm sorry, but I can't buy that at all. If you had no subs, you would loose the attention and adoration (service) they provide.
Everyone exists somewhere on a continuum; a kind of ying/yang thing. Two people trying to add up to 100%...
As far as lock-ups go, Mistress Lucy is up at around 99% lockup!
Not everyone is going to be happy with that, either as a keyholder or as a keyheld, hence all the discord in this thread.
So some lockees will be happy to have a relationship with Mistress Lucy and some won't. The trick would be for one or the other to determine whether or not the relationship should even begin, never mind continue.
For those who do not need or want much in the way of physical contact, I'm pretty sure they would have a loooong and happy relationship with Mistress Lucy, who would in turn derive much satisfaction from her chastely devoted collection of subs.
Well that's it, I get attention and adoration if I go to buy a sandwich for my lunch. Am I giving those people a service?
I don't say anything on this thread to be bigheaded or egotistical, I would never have said anything at all if I wasn't responding to allegations unrelated to my original question.
Yes: the utility of being a useful customer.
EDIT: If you are particularly useful as a customer, you may one day receive extra lettuce in your sandwich!
I was talking about attention and adoration from males even while on my way to do a mundane everyday thing. It's not hard to come by.
LOLS. Any more extra conditions you wish to add to:
There are never any shortages of attentive subs/males. online or in real life.
They come and go. There are always 1000 more to replace them.
I’m not being mean, that’s just how it is. The subs I have know this and are still happy to serve. Chastity is a tiny part of it.
I carry on doing what I enjoy regardless.
There could be 0 or 50 subs, it makes no difference to me. I am happy with 0 or 50.
As I was trying to say, I get attention and adoration from males even on my lunchbreak buying a sandwich. There is always some chancer, the same as online.
Those looking for an “exchange” will not get past the door. Those who never ask for anything will get a lot. It’s an “anti service”.
I carry on doing what I enjoy regardless of subs.
folks shudnt say rude thingys to Ladies.
I never thought I'd say it, but jemima is the voice of reason.
The revealing (and sad) thing about this thread is the way it's exposed a desire among some quarters to pressure a member to conform to various prescriptive modes of behaviour.
Lucy has been attacked for the way she chooses to practice chastity with her fans, for suggesting that there was an inherent bias in the way females on this site (and others) are EXPECTED to behave as key holders or as Dommes.
Secondly, Lucy has been attacked and insulted for refusing to meet or comply with other's expectations of whatever THEY deem to be bullet-proof or rational arguments against her. Why on earth should she? She's made her essential point repeatedly, that is, her freedom to practice chastity as she sees fit. And conversely, if you don't buy Lucy's arguments or her apparent methods of online control then forget it, leave her alone. Why should any female here (or anywhere else) be forced conform to an uncontested version of behaviour or argument? Attacking her for her 'youth' or for not mutually engaging in some spurious pseudo-legal jargon is absurd.
Some of the points made against her have been libellous, and when a moderator made the point that none of the arguments being used against her had been backed up with any evidence, none of the interlocutors had the grace to subsequently apologise.
I suggest this thread is exhausted: Lucy's initial point, that there is room for a wider, deeper understanding and exploration of how chastity can be practiced (without implicit teasing and without the key holder being obliged to 'perform' an expected routine) remains entirely sound. How many potential female key holders might be relieved to feel that they could become involved in the practice without necessarily having to dance the 'tease fandango' of nudie pix and infantile online messaging.
If you disagree then at least do so with dignity and due respect to a motivated, creative and autonomous young woman who is one of a very few regular female contributors here.
If you can't do that then I suggest you simply ignore the thread. It won't kill you...
Correct. The female dominant partner might feel relieved she does not have to be a performing money for the "submissive" partner at his request and expectations, therefore TOPPING FROM THE BOTTOM. I've seen so many instances of it on this site, you don't realise you are doing it.
Back in the old days when I used to meet worthless males and use them as foot rests and ignore them. Quite amusing.
I have been following this thread almost from the start and there have been some great ideas and contributions. I think though Ganymede today has summarised it perfectly. What we should be celebrating - or at least seeing more positively - is that there is a wide diversity of approaches to chastity and dominant/submissive relationships. Surely the Mansion is big enough to accommodate that diversity, and it would be a boring if everyone was the same. However any of us choose to practice chastity, in whatever role or capacity, is good if the people involved are consenting and enjoy it. That doesn't mean we can't politely disagree with each other and advance our own arguments - I've learnt a lot since being on CM because some of the debates are very rich and mentally stimulating - and, without seeming to take sides, I think CM would be a poorer without sort of debate Mistress Lucy has raised.
that's very nice of You please Mistress, curtsy. Don't i has to go down the mine now please.
@jemima I would save you if anyone ever tried to put you in a mine.
I hope the mine isn't one of those exploding types. It could be messy @jemima
She'll be just fine. I will find Jemima and make sure she is safe
You can work in the mine canteen
I've noticed something else on this site, it seems a male can do no wrong. If he disobeys or tops from the bottom, If he is a total prick to his partner that's ok because "he's just learning". Whereas if a female dares to ask a question she is put on trial.
Privileged seekers of a service in their eyes. Seeing how most follow the herd here I may just hop on that band wagon and drink up all that Kool aid.
please it not one of them mines its coal mine
You'll always find someone telling you: "you'll be mine!" instead of: "you'll be in a mine!"
oooh yes, that's clever.