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Discussion in 'The Foyer' started by Joshers2005, Jun 15, 2017.

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    Maybe a bit of leeway is required here before commenting. @Joshers2005@Joshers2005 has explained in his signature that he is liable to get a tad excited and possibly over enthusiastic in his thought processes. So rather than jumping on every post, we should allow him to process his thoughts a bit more and then see if there is any helpful suggestions we can make.
     
  3. I'm sorry to hear of your challenges.

    Personally I always verify prior to purchase that the steel used for the tube and the A-ring(s) are surgical quality 316L Stainless Steel. Its used for surgical implants and is used in marine environments.

    I am allergic to nickel.. So I avoid it. I cut the rivets off jeans and put clear nylon nail varnish on the metal waist and fly buttons. My advice do not settle for anything less than 316L or use titanium or of course gold.. silver does not work me either.

    I learned the hard way. DO NOT wear crap next to your skin and certainly not your junk.

    My Fort is Stainless Steel and it is 316L the A-rings were chrome plated crap they started giving me gyp in less than a week. I threw them away and had an A-ring made., it looks better too.
     
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  4. @Mistress Jules@Mistress Jules I think you are spot on with this as @Joshers2005@Joshers2005 has some extra challenges to deal with , he as stated in his signature and posts that he is on the autistic spectrum and working out something like this must be a challenge for him . well spotted
     
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  5. @Joshers2005@Joshers2005 i didn't know about your autism issues, I don't read everyone's back story when replying.

    I certainly didn't mean to be hard on you for your impatience. Good luck and happy locking.
     
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  6. Thank you all for understanding my Autism. Apologies accepted.

    Yes, this is tough for me and I have taken more time to think about what is right for me. 30mm seems like a good fit in diameter as I found a more realistic 30mm wide tube that is not stretchy like the demo device I made with wire. I stuck my junk in and it was not too snug, not too loose, but fit enough where I could twist it around and the shaft&head will not stick with it unless it's semi-flaccid. I am definitely 30-31mm in diameter. ;) Even though the matter is extremely small and base-ring, weight, and humidity had a higher part, I believe the wider diameter of the previous cages had a cause for the dipping.

    I am not allergic to nickel or silver and I also realized that the flaking only occurred within the sections I sanded very hard for the epoxy blue to be placed. I feel that if I do not sand it very hard like I before, there will be no flaking (no flaking in the middle as I did not sand there). I highly doubt I will see silver in my penile skin again because I have never seen it before with all my past three 304 Steel cages - until the day I sanded the entire cage down.

    Will power is important and I am just going to pick the 60mm cage and let it adjust. It is my final choice. Although my underside is 53mm flaccid which makes the cage 7mm too long, the 60mm cage I had before was not 7mm too long but only 2-3mm too long. Both cages are exactly 60mm long, so how did that happen? On top of that, the entire device as a whole (78mm) will should make it snug as it is 4mm less than my flaccid size.

    Thank you for your help and I am purchasing the device.
     
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  7. I am also getting something like this but much cheaper.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/351890164168

    There is a 35mm hole for the penis and 60mm cage to stick out I am going to make another hole on top for the base ring's clamp. Therefore, both the base ring and my balls will be behind the pants...and the cage with my penis locked-up with be sticking out. If any of you has a better idea, let me know before I purchase it.

    Have a great day.
     
  8. I suggest you not waste your money on that item. That's really just fetish wear that is not good for much other than play. Long, long ago I bought something similar -- this was well before I knew anything about chastity devices, really before there was much of anything available other than a few full belts like the Latowski -- and tried wearing it around. As soon as your cock gets too flaccid to be held by the straps it flops out, and then you've got this weird uncomfortable thing around your balls. Hard to walk in and hard to sit down in.

    As for wearing it with your cage, it's hard to see what you'll gain, and you're likely to create problems with pinching. Any time you have two different things grabbing your sack that can move independently, you've got a recipe for pinching and chafing. That's why a device that forms a single, rigid unit when locked is the best for comfortable long term wear.

    If you are looking for a pullout prevention method, there are several threads here that describe how to make a waist belt with rope and a couple of useful knots, and there is one that describes how to make a belt out of steel cable which is effectively locked on to you once the cage is locked on. Let me know if you need help finding that thread.

    Regarding pullout prevention in general: I understand that it's very important to you, as it often is to guys when they're first getting used to wearing a device. My advice would be to focus on getting a well-fitting device first (one that fits well with minimum modifications -- sanding down rough edges if necessary, maybe slightly bending things for a better angle -- but not one that requires a lot of filling in with epoxy), and then, once your body is somewhat accustomed to it, focus on how to make it more difficult to escape. There are no guarantees that you can make it impossible to escape; as several people have noted, the penis is a wily beast, and without a piercing or a urethral insert to keep it in, it may find its way out. The best anti-pullout device really is the one between your ears.

    In any case, you should at least be able to make escape more difficult, but keep in mind: you don't want an escape-proof or escape-resistant device that's impossible to wear because it's too uncomfortable. So focus first on getting the right fit, and then look at your options for making it more secure.

    Good luck, and do keep us posted! :)
     
  9. Thank you for letting me know about this beforehand. I would like to know where I could find the thread about the steel cable belt.

    Like I said up above, I was also curious to why my penis was only 1-2mm shorter than the cage (see my signature) although the cage is 7mm too long? Shouldn't my flaccid penis be flopping nearer to the center instead of just 2mm right at the end? As a whole, the 60mm caged device I just ordered is 5mm shorter than the 60mm caged device I had in the past, so maybe this has a role.

    Let me know and send a link to that thread.

    Thanks for the good luck.
     
  10. Here are a couple (h/t @CZSteve@CZSteve) :

    seriously speaking, can I get a real secure cock cage without piercing

    Smaller base ring or double base ring in current size?

    I'm not sure to answer your measurement question. If your penis seems to be too small in the cage, you probably want a smaller cage. If the tip is coming within a mm or two of the end of the cage when you're fully flaccid, you're pretty close to the right length, regardless of what the seller claims the length is. You might want to look for something just a few mm shorter so that it's snug, but it sounds like if the diameter is right (comfortable when flaccid but doesn't give you much room to expand) you've probably got just about the right size.
     

  11. I am back. I purchased all those tools and I am constructing the belt. I will post it once it is made
     
  12. I wanted to let you know that I got the 37mm diameter fully enclosed cage and was smaller than I thought it was. It wasn't a good fit and when I did fit it in, I reversed it and used it as a masturbation tool. It is in the trash and my penis now feels infected. I hope I do not get a Chinesse infection as I didn't wash it with soap until after I used it.

    Have a great day.
     
  13. finding the correct fit is a pain in the ass I got a new device recently and it finally fits no discomfort no rash... keep at it if this really is for you, you will find the right fit
     

  14. I am keeping at it and I am no longer lost and confused like the thread says. Now that I've been playing around I have a couple updates:

    1.) The plane circular clamp rings are not the right type that suits me well. The new shaped rings tend to fit better to my crotch and groins. The new device (a thinner 60mm cage) I am getting this month comes with a 45mm semi-shaped clamp ring that still has the option for Padlock and not one of those cheap mini keys. I will give this a try and see what happens.

    2.) I have a perfect back up plan now. I realized that the extra belt (thank to the help of boisub) solves a lot of issues I got from the past 60mm cage. Worse comes to worse, I get that 58mm cage that I have keeping my eye on from eBay. It has the same design but the diameter is much wider but it will not matter to me if the base ring is snug with my body instead of dipping down.

    I am so much happier and there is no need to worry. Have a great day and wish me luck.
     
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    I am glad to see that things are coming together for you and you are feeling happier about this whole adventure. I look forward to seeing how things progress.
     
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    @Joshers2005@Joshers2005 I hope you have found what it was that you were looking for and I'm pleased that you are no longer lost and confused. :)
     
  17. I could not agree more. Finding the right piece is a royal (and expensive) PItA! May I ask what you ended up with? I've tried many rings all of them round and they do not work for me. Most gap distances do not either. I've finally decided to buy a bunch of rings in varying diameters across each of the common shapes offered. Hope it helps!!
     
  18. So far, I am satisfied with my 60mm cage that just arrived today. Thanks to boisub, the home-made belt strap I made prevents the device from sliding into the middle of my shaft when erect. The length is 2mm shorter than my flaccid size (and not 17mm shorter because the gap size in the current cage I purchase is smaller), which is closest to custom as I can get. As many popes here have told me, the tighter the fit, the better the fit. I have now seen people over 3" in length wear 2" devices and even smaller. This makes me comfortable to know. I am still going to get used to the device and I have to add one more thing to the belt that will fix things even more.

    The smaller diameter makes a big difference and if I notice some issues, I can go back to that 56mm cage with a similar design as it is so similar (the gap is much larger). Honestly, the belt strap makes all the difference in the world. Without it, I would not be liking this device that much as I tried it without it and it does dip down for sure. With every device, there is always a downfall. The main downfall of this device is that I can still masturbate using the frenulum, which is not protected by the cage (like the previous designs could). I can probably adjust with with some creativity and crafting. I'll keep you updated.
     
  19. I just experienced another dangerous disadvantage that hurts my penis and it now looks as if bees stung the upper half of my purple cock. When very erect, the head of the penis can squeeze through the open end-bars and the entire head can stick out as the skin under the glands get crushed with a small diameter of 14mm. It is like a vice squeezing my penis but that will no longer happen.

    With the help of two 14mm rods and gorilla tape, both the disadvantages (head pushing through/ability to tickle the crown) are gone and I am 100% happy with this device.
     
  20. Sorry about the fact that I keep replying, but I just noticed that even when the head does not escape and without the repairs, my penis is turns blue/purple after a while. I think it might have to do with the ring. Also, take note that the head excepting the bars and getting squeezed occurred as I tickled the crown to ejaculate. When very erect before I did the experiment, the head of the penis pushed tightly with the urethra popped out like it did when inside the last 3 cages. The head of my penis started to escape through as it got even more erect before the climax.

    I purchased a 50mm ring for the cage to see if the ring is too tight as it was only $6, which is cheaper than all the stuff to build my belt-strap. Once I try the 50mm ring on and still tonic that it turns purple, I will know it has to do with the diameter being too narrow.
     
  21. I wanted to say that Nicoftime pointed out to me that the penis can get sore if it is in contact contact with metal. The 30mm dimatater is snug and the steel does push even when fully flaccid. He could be right.

    Although my penis can feel sore after a while, it doesn't fully hurt/burn until being erect for a while before the head leaks out on the end. I think this might have to do with the fact that the cage needs extra width (going back to 33mm diameter cages) for my penis to expand as the tightness puts pressure. I can see that the marks from the groove are not fully going away and my penis is still sore. It is also my fault for saying I am satisfied before spending some time wearing it on. Here is my next step: 1.) I am going to wait a week and let my sore penis heal until the 50mm ring arrives. I will try and see if it is too narrow. 2.) If it too narrow, I will get the 56mm cage that is very close to the cage I have now. This back-up cage is just as cheap and will arrive quicker as it is not from China. It will be a better size fit but the entire device is much longer so the belt-strap is a necessity and I will have to recreate the entire thing as the lock design is built inside the base ring instead of allowing a hole for a padlock, providing only the base ring itself to be looped. I feel the padlock can be annoying at times. So...I have a great idea on how to re-create this belt as it also takes care of what I am trying to do right now; making a chain that goes both around my waist and under my anus, clips to all 3 sides of the base ring using bolt-snaps. If I feel a pain or if I have to take a crap, I just unsnap a clip and snap it back on. I feel that chain will not make it too tight like the wire tubing is doing. Right now, there is no way for me to even slide a lubed cue-tip through my base ring when erect. Another idea is an thin acoustic guitar strap as it can be tightened and loosened like a robe can. I am not done yet, so no rash decisions.

    Have a great night.
     
  22. I hope I don't get banned for posting another photo of my penis, but I need to show you this.

    Emergency Update:

    My penis feels 10x better as it did yesterday as it healed overnight. Yay. Sadly, I put the device on one more time, things felt okay at first, it got erect, and I came across this serious issue and it is sore once again. :mad: I don't believe it is swelled as it is back to normal looking healthy and fine after it has been off for a while.

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    When fully flaccid the penis definitely snug to the cage but it isn't notice until it gets semi-erect. Then it feels like sticking my penis is a pop bottle once I am fully erect and I have never seen my penis skin so tight before. I am doing my best to let my body adjust to the device and not take a break, but when things hurt this bad to the point where I feel the need to call a doc, it is unhealthy and unacceptable. Yes, this device is way too narrow and it stings like heck after I pee even after it is off. It just took two tries to see this.

    I want to give a big thanks to nicoftime for these wise words:

    Yep. Too narrow. You live and you learn. Good thing I have a back-up plan and saved a final $20 many weeks before just for the new 58mm device (I kept saying 56mm) I am ordering today or tomorrow and it will arrive in 6-10 business days as it is not international. I looked at all the measurements of the device that is too narrow and the new one and they are so similar (the entire device is 4mm longer but still under my flaccid length ;)) I will keep you up-to-date when the new device comes.
     
  23. No problem, hope everything turns out
     
  24. I hope so too. Whenever you measure the diameter, keep in mind that the head of the penis is a bit bigger than the shaft/glands. My flaccid diameter is 30mm but my head is around 32/33mm, which makes sense on why it kept creeping out of the bars when fully erect as there was too much pressure. I did notice that the bottom half of the head was purple and the skin felt rubbery. Any idea why?
     
  25. Erections will always be uncomfortable when you're wearing a cage. That's the nature of the beast. If your erections are so strong that your skin is getting irritated by squeezing through the bars (which I think is what you're saying), there are three things you might think about, more or less in this order:

    1. You may need to smooth the surface of the cage somewhat. The skin down there is pretty sensitive and rough spots that would be unnoticeable anywhere else can cause irritation when they're in constant contact with your body
    2. If strong erections are painful, you need to work on not having such strong ones. This falls partly under the category of getting accustomed to your device, and partly under the category of getting into the chastity mind set.
    3. A more closed cage might help. This is an area of individual comfort and preference. But I would advise you to focus on 1 and 2 for a while before you go shopping for yet another device.
    Actually, I just re-read your post and it sounds to me like you're complaining that your penis hurts after you've tried masturbating (or at least doing some heavy stimulation) in your device. Which reminds me of the joke where the guy goes to the doctor and says "doctor, it hurts when I do this" while contorting himself into some weird position, to which the doctor replies, "well then stop doing that!" If your cage is causing you discomfort or pain when you attempt to get yourself aroused, it's doing its job. Your cage is NOT a masturbation toy; in fact, it's quite the opposite. If you try to use it for that purpose you shouldn't be surprised if it causes you pain.
     
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