I (28M) Want to Ask My Wife (26F)

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    Hello everyone!

    My apologies if you get this all the time, but I couldn't find a general advice thread anywhere on the internet.

    My wife and I have been married for almost 2 years, together for 3 or so, and we have mostly vanilla sex, once every week or two. I don't think either of us have particularly high libido, which is a contributing factor and is perfectly OK, but I also know that I have a long refractory period and have performance problems when I've masturbated within the last few days, especially on that specific day. So if the mood really does strike, it's a bit of a roll of the dice as to whether my member wants to come out to play. I've convinced her to let me keep some generic sildenafil around, but even that doesn't work 100% and she's not particularly happy when I use it because " you don't need to!"

    She doesn't mind that I masturbate, and even encourages it because that way I'm not annoying her for sex when she doesn't want it (not that I actually ever really ask/pressure her, given my LL and aforementioned refractory period). I tried to do No Nut November one year and she couldn't handle how horny I was even by the fifth day (to be fair, I was allowing myself to edge, which was a mistake). She masturbates herself, though not as often as I do (before meeting her, I was 1x-2x/day, occasionally missing a day here and there. Now I'm close to 1x/day or 1x every other day). She likes masturbating because it's quick and dirty, unlike when I eat her out, which can take a while and she's impatient. She claims she doesn't "get much" from PIV sex either, which contributes to her LL. I'm not really sure if that's true or not - at least not all the time - but it's clear that the effort necessary to actually have sex is pretty high for both of us and most of the time just isn't worth it except for a renewal of our happy hormones (we cuddle a TON and I give her a lot of back/neck/butt scratches, which she LOVES. She'd give up all sexual contact for the rest of her life if it meant she could get scratches whenever she wanted). So it's not like we're not emotionally/physically bonding, it's just not really via sex.

    Which brings me here. With me having to work from home all the time and her going in every day to teach her class (she's a teacher), I have a lot of alone time on my....hands...and I feel like my readiness for her has really taken a dip in the last year or so, when she's made an effort to initiate or appreciate sex, I just haven't been ready. I also do have ADHD, which does NOT help my impulse control when left alone at home without much to do (lull in work, lunch break, etc). I want to float the idea of me wearing a cage just during the work day so that I can't do it when she's not home or without her permission. I think that will bring back/up a lot of latent libido in myself as I reprogram myself to only getting pleasure either from her or with her permission.

    However, she's a bit skeptical of any submissive activity on my part and doesn't really see herself as a domme/dominant at all, and has no desire (early on in our relationship she asked me if I had any kinks and was a little confused/concerned when I mentioned I wanted to be pegged...occasionally she'll mention that she might do it one day but not yet...). Part of that reluctance comes because I'm bi and she feels like maybe I want to be a woman/submit to a man instead of her, which really isn't the case. Probably means no butt stuff for me, but I'm OK with that because it makes her uncomfortable.

    tl;dr - How should I bring up this discussion? What kind of opportunity should I look for to bring it up? Should I reveal how much I've researched this topic and/or have a 'starter cage' picked out? Won't it be awkward if she agrees to it and has to lock and unlock me every morning (could we use an honor system where I send her a picture every day for proof, so she doesn't have to have anything to do with it?) Anything else you can think of to help me broach this subject at all with her? Things to say/mention/not say or mention?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    I'm guessing you have read many posts on this forum by now. Why not pick out a few that you could share with her? Tell her you would like to give chastity a try to spice up your sex life. Keep it low key, like you just want to try it out for fun.
     
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    What I usually suggest for people that want to introduce chastity without a kink factor…ask her if she would do you a favor by controlling your impulses so you can concentrate on her needs. Not for her but for you…she is not interested in being a domme so don’t ask her to be one. Ask her for a favor.
    Women that love their partner will usually at least give something a try if they know they are doing a favor. If you try to white wash it with how much this will benefit her, she will think its bullshit or at the very least probably say no thanks.

    Then when she reluctantly says ok, leave it at that. No bugging her to be dominant, no asking to be milked, pegged, or ruined orgasms etc. Just wear the device until she wants to remove it. If it becomes fun for her, she will gather more confidence in locking you. Don’t push, just ask her for a favor.

    good luck
     
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    Stop watching porn and stop masturbating. Both are bad for you.

    Give your wife the attention she craves without you asking for anything.

    I'd suggest masturbating together and you not having an orgasm, perhaps see if you being denied arouses her.

    At the end of the day being caged increases sexual desire so unless she can handle denying you then you are just going to get more annoying to her. There is no incentive for her.
     
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    You might consider talking about getting a strap-on for the BOTH of you, that fits both of you and mention you can get a harness with a place for a vibrator so SHE will receive clitoral stimulation, though clitoral stimulation without a vibrator is possible, as this video recently posted on Fetlife.com clearly demonstrates. (Membership is free but there is a small fee to watch videos.)

    https://fetlife.com/users/9972665/videos/3292845

    Does she truly not enjoy PIV, or is she being kind because of your ED?

    You don't need to ask her, as how she responds to manual stimulation should provide some indication.

    Are you actually stimulating her clitoris during cunnilingus? Don't assume you are. Does she have a small or tightly hooded clitoris, or have clitoral adhesions; think uncircumcised penis where the foreskin is too tight. This may explain her preference for masturbation.
     
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    Thank you all for the responses!

    I'm a little new to this forum setup so grabbing direct quotes will be hard, but:

    Nicoftime - thank you for the encouragement to bring it up as something she can do for me rather than making it about her. I'll definitely even just say she doesn't have to have the key ("honor system"), just ask that she allow me to buy it for myself.

    JaySaysYes - definitely will try to keep my hands away from myself even without the additional help. We have successfully masturbated together in the past and she loves having me around for it and watching me cum - so maybe if she agrees to this, the only time I get to cum is when I'm with her - no sneaking off to the living room to enjoy my porn. Even that alone will probably help, and will help with the last thing you said about increasing desire and her potentially being annoyed more; it won't forbid masturbation, just porn-fuelled.

    MtnViper - Thank you for the video and suggestion! If she brings up pegging again on her own, I'll mention the vibrating harnesses. Re: PIV - she usually enjoys it and has even come close to cumming from it a few times, but it's just not worth the effort for her physically. Re: cunnilingus - oh, I've never failed to make her orgasm, even when she wasn't really "feeling it" mentally to start. She's just really impatient and 10-15 minutes for an orgasm just is a lot of time for her.

    Thanks everyone for your input so far!
     
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    I bought a cheap starter cage then asked my wife if she wanted to give it a try. She was reluctant at first, and with many ups and downs on the long road, she really began to see what it meant to me and how she could benefit. Here a few years later, I'm locked 24/7 since September with no sign of release anytime soon. She actually prefers me to be locked these days.
     
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    Hi!

    My main advice is to push less hard than you think you ought. Slow it down. As in, slow yourself down. Don't dump this on her. Be super patient with the process. If she leads, you can follow, but don't push.

    And make sure that your reasons are right. Don't do this for you. Do it for her, or even for the both of you, but not for you yourself.

    And don't assume that anyone else has it all figured out. You do you.
     
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    Yup! True 42 has it...well TRUE!

    I ran a few Adventure Races in my past...my method...Start off at a snails pace...then slow it down...same holds true here!
     
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    I would suggest you talk to her and say that you think you need to control your masturbation and would she have any objections to you buying a cage as a tool to help you. I wouldn't ask her to be your keyholder, at least not yet, because as you try cages, you will need to take them off, put them on, etc and it would be a bother if you had to keep asking her for the key. If you eventually find a cage that you like, that feels comfortable and more importantly has an open design where you can clean yourself with the cage still on, then maybe you can ask her if she would mind holding the key, because by that point, you should only need to take it off when she wants to play with you.

    Don't think that you need to make this a Domme/sub relationship, or that you need to do any of the other kinky stuff that you will read about here, there are no rules, just do what feels right for the both of you. It's totally ok for vanilla people to use chastity devices without jumping into BDSM.

    But as others have said, being locked up does make you horny, so if that means that you start bugging her endlessly for sex, you're going to run into a roadblock pretty quick. You'll need to learn to enjoy that horniness as its own reward. It can be pretty addictive once you get used to it.
     
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    Thank you everyone for your thoughts and advice!

    We talked about it last night, and she agreed to letting me buy a cage and a dildo - provided she never sees either.

    I plan to implement it with a bent toward making her the focus more in everything and being more obedient and driven by her, even if she doesn't realize it. I will only masturbate in her presence and won't use porn to do it.

    Thanks for having this community, it really helped me get over my fear of bringing it up to her!
     
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    hello @ShinyBoy and welcome to here and i hope when you has your cage its nice and comfy for you. ooh and am you really shiny.
     
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    I assume the dildo will be your new way of "masturbating" when you're alone, so yeah, no need for her to ever see that. As for the cage, I would suggest that you try to wear it as much as possible, including at night, though that might mean you getting dressed for bed when she's not paying attention. Then, when she initiates sex play, just go off to the bathroom on your own and take the cage off. You will need to promise yourself that you will never take the cage off in order to masturbate on your own.

    Have you already picked out a cage? Have you self measured yet? Resin cages usually come with 4 sizes of base rings, so they're a good idea if you just want to do it by trial and error. If the ring is too big, your balls may slip out, if it's too small you will cut off circulation which is not good. For longer term wear, you'll probably want a metal cage with an open design as that will let you clean yourself in the shower without taking the cage off. You will need to remove the resin cages to clean.

    Example of resin cages:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/353581105451

    Example of metal cages:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/224150418491
     
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    Nope, not shiny unless you mean "shiny" like in Firefly :)

    Yes, the dildo is an old friend of mine before I met her and she agrees it's something that doesn't pose a threat to out relationship so I get one again :) if I have any activity while she's away, it will be while locked and while using it.

    I'm not sure how much I can wear it outside of just during the day while she's away. It will have to be an honor system no matter what, since I'm doing this primarily for me. I'm not sure I want to risk trying to sleep in it etc and her being mad that she saw it (gasp). Maybe she'll notice a change in my behavior and want to be more involved :)

    I bought a starter silicon cage since I won't be wearing it for much longer than 8 hours at a time. Maybe if it becomes a bigger part of our life I'll upgrade to something a bit more expensive and reliable. I got one which should fit my flaccid length pretty well (grower not a shower), and which comes with four different ring sizes which I'll experiment with when it arrives (as early as Thursday!!!).

    I'm so excited for it to show up, I'm constantly checking the status of the package.
     
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    I wore mine for a couple of nights before having "the talk" with my wife and she never noticed it, I just changed into my nightwear when she wasn't looking. It sounds like you ordered an HT style resin cage, which are great starter cages. Once you figure out your ring size, you don't need to get an expensive metal cage right off the bat, I found one for $25 that's working out great for me. I got the smaller of the 2 in this listing, I can wear it 24/7 with only taking it off for play time.
     
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    I finally managed to nab one of those resin ones from Ebay and it just arrived today. Omg it's so much better than the silicon one! My flaccidness isn't popping out randomly and it fits so much more snugly/smoothly. Added bonus, it's less visible through work clothes.

    My body liked it so much as I was putting it on that I had a bit of difficulty, if you know what I'm saying...

    Still haven't brought this up with my wife, but working up the courage. Keeping a journal thread on this forum in case anyone's curious or wants updates.
     
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    Glad it's working out for you, and yes I do know what you mean, lol. You should also download a copy of the Happy Marriage tracking spreadsheet, it's a good way to keep track of things as they're easy to forget.

    https://happy-marriage.neocities.org/tracker.htm
     
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    Try a KitchenSafe which is a lockbox with a timer. You can set it to get keys right before she gets home. In a real emergency, you can break box to get the key. Good luck!
     
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    Surprisingly, I haven't had any temptation to prematurely unlock myself on any days so far! I originally went about it by putting the key somewhere inaccessible, but I realized I don't even need that and am having no problems with easy access to the key.
     
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    Good boy, I like to see us guys having some self control. When I'm unlocked I am totally able to refrain from pulling one off, so I've been impressing myself too.
     
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    I find it a huge rush that it’s out of my control once the key is inaccessible.
     
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    very accurate view in my eyes!
     
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    Maybe share a cm journal with her so she can peruse it
     
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    Just talk to her like its any other topic. Something like "I found something on the Internet that we could try. How do you fancy locking my cock away and see how horny it makes me - think of the power you would have?"
     
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    Since you’re young, I think you need to talk to your doctor. Start by asking about your libido. Then explain your situation. I’m not an expert but I suspect you’re not normal. So get checked. If you’re healthy then find ways to make things work that’s fun for both of you. If not now is the time to catch it.

    Once you rule out a medical condition. Reread the advise above. Some is ok. And some is real good. Pick and choose what is right for the two of you.

    Oh and are you on any meds? Many really screw with sexual function and desire.
     
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