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    I've read a great deal about how locking a penis in a cage is fine fine fine.

    I disagree. I challenge anyone to get a medical opinion on this. I am almost certain we all know better, but what would a doctor say? A urologist? IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE ROOM??? I think we all know the answer.

    It can and very likely already has caused harm to your penis. Permanently. But, hey who cares about a bunch of self absorbed penis obssessed kinksters anyway? :)
     
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    Have you had issues or potential damage that causes you to post this?
     
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    Yes. I have been unlocked for almost a month. I have yet to get an erection like before wearing a chastity device. I took a long break and then my wife and I tried again. Now when I get hard it is 70% at best, and I cannot sustain it. I am now impotent thanks to wearing a chastity device. I am otherwise a picture of health. I deeply regret going down this path.
     
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    Have you seen an urologist? The impotence may or may not be related to your time in chastity. It could simply be a coincidental occurrence and not a causal one. A urologist might resolve your issue whatever the cause.
     
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    I may go see a doctor soon, but no thank you to drugs, mmmkay? As far as I know there is no physical therapy for this kind of thing either.

    Either way, it is not likely coincidental. After my last release from the device, I got no erection at all for 3 days.
     
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    Okay, I do think there are non-drug alternatives but like most things, it may or may not work for you. good luck.
     
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    Correlation does not imply causation. You are using a post hoc fallacy in your reasoning.
     
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    How old are you? More than 50% of men over the age of 50 have unreliable erections. Viagra is a godsend, no big deal to take it.
     
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    You are certainly not a picture of health if you experienced lasting impotence after being locked up.

    I spent eight months continuously locked with only hygiene breaks to clean. No erections, no orgasms. After being let out it only took a few hours for everything to come back to normal. And I got my wife pregnant that night.

    You almost certainly have some other condition going on. A 30% reduction in erectile size sounds very much like a hormonal deficiency in my opinion. That’s right in line with what transgender women experience during the first month or so of HRT when their testosterone is falling.

    There are other things like heart conditions or blood pressure problems that can cause this kind of problem. So can SSRIs and other medications. I know there’s a member on here who experienced impotence from allergy medication containing pseudoephedrine.

    I would see a doctor pronto and get to the root cause. When was your last physical? If it’s been more than six months and you are having this sudden problem, I would ask your physician to schedule a complete physical with blood panels and the works. Your erectile dysfunction might be telling you something very important and you might catch something early.
     
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    And let’s not exclude another big factor, psychological reasons can cause erectile dysfunction, it might not be anything physical. Stress, anxiety etc can cause this.
     
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    Lame. There is literally nothing else that would have caused my problem. No kick to the balls, no injury that I can see or feel. Confining myself and limiting my erections with a steel device limited what I could do. With it off, I am not bouncing back. A while back, I had a similar reaction and after months I felt as though my blood flow was back to normal. Maybe that will be the case again, But if that is true, then if fact chastity did cause harm. Harm can be temporary, but if one is to repeat said harm over and over... permanent damage.

    Are you qualified to offer such an opinion? No offense, but I doubt it. Although that is an interesting theory. I will be getting blood work done soon so I will report back. I would not say I am healthy if I were not. In fact, I have not really been in better shape in years. I have a good diet and exercise daily. I am very in tune with my body.

    Yes indeed. The problem may reside within the walls of my brain. But I doubt that also.

    I find it kind of hilarious the willingness to offer explanations, as if to say anything other than chastity is responsible after all you wouldn't want me to ruin your fun, now would you? I don't think any qualified physician would ever sign off on male chastity as an ok thing to do. That would be irresponsible.
     
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    I’m in my early 30s and went down this path with my wife to the point that she forces me to wear the cage 24/7... I’ve lost that battle

    The one thing that makes it worth it is the orgasms... when I’m released... that’s the ultimate high in my entire life of doing drugs... the orgasms I get now
     
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    Interestingly, your insistence that your physical issues can *only* have been caused by your device is the flip side of others saying it could be something else.

    I'm not going to say one way or the other. It's quite possible that there was some combination of your cage and your personal biology that resulted in something happening.

    There's nothing in your post history suggesting that this has been an issue in the past. However there *is* a lot of emotional turmoil in your writing, including some degree of ambivalence on the part of your wife, and some relationship issues.

    A lot of the guys here have been wearing devices on and off for years, and some even decades. Reports such as yours are actually the exception.

    Go see a doctor.
     
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    I agree with other posters here, you need to consult a professional about your problem.
     
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    #15 1111111111116, Sep 15, 2019
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    It doesn't matter if you think my response is lame. You used a post hoc fallacy in your initial explanation of your reasoning, so that reasoning is invalid.


    And now you have used another logical fallacy, a Holmesian fallacy:

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Holmesian_fallacy

    Just because you can't think of anything else that could of caused it doesn't mean that the cage caused it. You're not a medical professional, you don't know what other causes it could be. And in addition to that, not all medical issues can be tied to a single event like you are attempting to do. Some medical issues arise on their own with the cause being hidden.

    Stop being irrational. Go see a doctor.
     
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    #16 Shimone, Sep 15, 2019
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    I can not offer a M.D., but maybe the german Version of a Pharm.D. is worth something to you.

    My advice: Go see a doctor in real live !

    I realize that this is no option most people would do with kink related problems, but when there might be tests needed there is not much of an option. You could ask at certain platforms like fetlife where is a section for verified profesionals who might give you some theories. But there is nothing they could do to proof it without examining you.

    Vanilla doctor might bring their own problems though. For one part you have to be true with what you think the cause or they might look into a completely wrong direction for no real cause - on the other hand many vanilla doctors don't have much love for kinksters so that you could not necessarily be sure that they will gibe the best they could. Take psychologists f.e. - most of them like like kinksters almost as much as people with BPD ("borderliners").

    Urologists might not be much better as they often have to clean up the mess kinksters create inserting catheters or others things without knowing how to do it right...Finding the right one they would be your best choice though.

    If you are looking for shots into the dark instead:
    Have had your cage in somewhat uncomfortable positions for some time (resulting in pessure at the upper side of your penis) ? That might cause damage to the dorsal nerve - an alternative reason apart from bloodflow or psychological issues....

    *Edith asks what kind of device you were using ?*
     
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    was you locked up by somebody or did you lock up yourself cos if it was somebody then you shud ask them bout it all.
     
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    Just a thought here:
    Since you are reluctant to see a doctor and are of the belief that months of not having an erection might be the causal agent, how about buying one of those vacuum cylinders and using it to fully erect your penis.
    Not meaning to tempt anyone to accuse me of employing any of the many fallacies to determine the cause of this phallic diminutive was, I believe that if the turtle pressure has not been adequate to overcome complete perfusion of the sponge-like tissues on its own, pulling a slight vacuum would increase the differential blood pressure and thereby expand your penis to its full potential.
    After observing the results you can still go to a doctor.
    Best of luck with this problem.
    Please do keep us updated on your status.
    Ss
     
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    I certainly wonder the same thing. But so far not :).
     
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    Thank you so much! You and others might've missed it, but I am going to the doctor. As for being irrational, that may be. I am far from perfect, and I would like to amend a statement from before:

    Clearly I am mentally unfit with my irrational thoughts and emotional writing. Do I take it personally? Maybe. But I am less inclined to continue this discussion with responses like that. I do have feelings, I am human, and this is what this community seems to think of me: there goes 'beck' with his irrational and emotionally based writing, disregard! sad! I also see who likes this and that, and while I am grateful it is a bit of a pill to swallow... foreshadowing? hmmm. I ask of y'all to consider this, since y'all are so intellectual and seem to know the ins and outs of the world so correctly: cause and effect. Actions do have consequences.


    perhaps for this particular issue that may be true I have not written about it before. I have written about issues with the device and damage to my body from wearing it, however.

    I think the most likely answer is my age. I am getting to that point where testosterone is being used differently. (40's) I am saddened by the change. Life moves on. I will adapt. ...adaption may also have been the problem to begin with. In the pursuit of getting a correctly sized device, which none of you can say for sure what that is, I think the wide range of my penis size works against the viability of me wearing a chastity device. Too tight- skin gets cold. Too loose, it slips around dangerously. Just right? what that is in this counter culture is opinion only. Or not. Maybe you can tell me what to think.

    Thanks for the replies.
     
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    Hard to give give sizing advise on such a basis, but what are you really alking about ? The tube or the gap ?
    To me most of the stability comes from the a-ring resulting from a correctly a-ring + gap the tupe itself is not unimportant, but does not help much regarding stability - at least that's my impression.
    Btw. what problems did you have wih your device ? What I found it read only like kin irritations an that alone would not point so some reason für more serious problems.

    Speaking about testosteone that could be a reason and one easy to prove: get your blood tested.
    If it is somewhat low there are several things you can do without directly substituting it:
    No cb again as it can lower bloodflow in your testicles and therefor reduce testosterone production even more.
    Make sure you get enough magnesium and zink as it is needed to produce testosterone.
    pine pollen tincture as substitutant - even if your body can only use a fraction of the "testosterone" in it...
    In adittion maybe panax and / or tienchi ginseng...

    All this will not nesessarily work if your testosterone level already is ok, but those things can help to normalize your testosteronelevel if it is too low...
     
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    On the contrary, I think if you could guarantee similar results with a chastity device, you'd have scores of dudes from the forum beating down your door for a shrinking penis.

    Take a supplement called L-Arginine. 2,000 mg per day, and you'll be much better than new within 2 weeks. It's a safe over the counter supplement you can get at any retailer and you'll be amazed at your erections.

    My endocrinologist had me pick some up when I had side effects from my BP meds. She told me it was safe to take forever if I wanted as it has a ton of positive effects on vascularity and cognitive function.
     
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    Qualified from firsthand experience;). But please understand I am not trying to a jerk. I am genuinely concerned about your sudden onset and lasting duration of impotence. That is not a normal experience in the use of chastity devices.
     
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    Man someone's salty. Being intentionally inflammatory isn't going to make your dick harder. Worse, putting doubts into the minds of people who aren't so experienced simply because you had one bad experience that you associate with kink, despite no one else sharing that experience, is kinda lame. If you cared, you would go see a doctor instead of trying to tarnish a pleasurable experience for others. :p:kiss:
     
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    No advice here. Just a comment from experience. I have been locked almost 24/7 for the past 15 1/2 months. The longest continuous was 88 days. Never a problem and I am 70 years old. I use Viagra to help maintain an erection but I get them without it.

    Both my general practitioner doctor and the therapist I see know about it and have never made any comments about possible problems form chastity.
     
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