Grower problem

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    Hello!

    I have two devices.

    The Vice Chastity Standard
    A very good device and I love the anti-pullout system. The only problem I have is as a grower, that at times my penis is shorter than the tube and that leads to the foreskin to pop out of the opening. And that causes pain with trousers.

    The Vice Chastity Mini
    Shorter tube gives an overall nice fit through the day. Foreskin problems very rare. But during the night boners, it feels like the penis outside the cage and inside my pelvis is going to snap.

    Don’t know what to do with this problem. :/
     
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    Night time erections for many us are awful. I call it cage fighting. For me, it's the worse when I have been out of my cage for a few days and have to go back in. Everyone is different but, staying in your cage longer will train your body of it's limits wearing a chastity device. I'm also a grower.

    I use to complain to my wife about the night time erections. She could care less and said, that's why you wear a cage sweetie, deal with it.

    Takes time and the right cage but you'll get there.
     
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    If you can't put on a better cage for sleeping you need to sleep without it

    Or get a full belt system for sleeping in
     
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    Thanks for your replies. With this problem, I’m not sure if the boner would go into my pelvis even with the full system. But you reckon, it’ll calm down by time and no permanent damage is done?
     
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    The only "damage" will be your frustration! I now feel like a kept submissive when my cage prevents an erection from me. Yes, I/we wear cages for a reason. Control.

    You'll be fine.
     
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    Ok. It just hurt a bit strangely in my lower stomach, so got a bit frightened. Nothing like before. Maybe the boner was at its strongest or something.
     
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    Don’t wear it at night or get a better suited device
     
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    That’s the hard part. What is better suited in my case.
     
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    A better measurement
     
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    In my case meaning, it’s too short, while it’s excellent for daytime use?
     
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    While it might seem odd, a shorter cage is likely to be better. It stops erection from getting started too much. Many here on CM have said they’ve found a shorter cage more comfortable for this reason.
     
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    Yes, so I have understood and that’s what I came to ask here, if someone has sinulta experiences about the cock pushing inside theough the pelvis just above the base ring. And experiences about might it do damage, would it possibly go away with getting used to and/or do I just have to adjust it or use a longer cage.
     
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    There are two things you might considder with a new device:

    1) Go custom and go for a snug fit ! Snug fit means that while beeing in your usually smallest state the cage will already enclose your penis like a glove. That will ensure you stay soft inside of the cage even if you get an erection. Thus no pain - at least due to the erection itself. This also would lessen the possibillyty of you acidently pulling out at night. If that is not working for the night you might see if you could get a cb with a not so wide a-ring and a smaller gap. Even better in beating a pullout would be a piercing or tether though.
    2) Looks though that a larger part of your problem comes from some pinching effect. While I can not say much about foreskin problems in devices I can give an advice for general pinching problems as I had to fight with those myself getting my first, cheap device. My advice: Go for a device with smaller and more orunded openings. Of course a completely enclosed tube might be even better, but who would want that due to hygienic reasons ? If the openings are way smaller it might be already taking care of your problem. I would not give a 100% guarantee for it though. Might be a case for try and error...
     
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    #14 Aisurix, Nov 24, 2022
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    Thanks for all replies! The problem wasn’t so much about pinching in this case. It’s more about the cock sort of “growing” backwards into my pelvis and making a bulge into my lower stomach just above the base ring. And that feels like it’s just about to snap from there. The weird part in this is, the part of the penis, that’s inside the cage, isn’t that hard and doesn’t cause any pain. Just the part that “grows” out of the cage through the base ring into my pelvis. Accidental pulling out is not a problem either. Foreskin problem comes from the pee hole, which obviously has to be there and with the longer tube only. Mostly worried about my cock burying into my pelvis part and feeling like it snaps.

    Next I will try it with the biggest spacer and see if that helps, but still keeps it tight enough. I had the second smallest on on this painful occasion.
     
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    Well - so it is still 2 problems.

    For the foreskin problem go for another cage. Yes, there has to be a hole to pee through, but with the cheap devices it is always much larger tham it has to. Just compare it to some pictures from custom cages....

    Your second problem I think I have problems to understand. So you are still in the cb as you shoud be, the part inside the tube is fine, and it is only the part outside becoming hard and hurting ?
    If so there are 3 questions:
    1. Is the pain due to you penis beeing beein forced against his natural direction? That was something I had problems with, too at some point.
    2. Getting an erection, does your cb get pushed away from your body?
    3. What was the distance between the tube and your body(a-ring+gap size) ?
     
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    I have The Vice Chastity, so the anti-pullout system helps keeping the basering close to the pelvis. So…

    1. Exactly. The cage stays pretty well close to the pelvis, so the erection goes kinda backwards.

    2. A bit, but a lot less, than without the anti-pullout. Some burn in the back of the balls.

    3. It was approximately 5 mm away from my body, maybe even less. Base ring was 44 mm. Gap was 6,5 mm.
     
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    In that case you migjt want to look for a device that is a better fit so the cb does not get pushed away from the body at all + where at tje same time the tube might be closer to the body.

    The by far better and easier might be to get a device without a-ring at all.
    The problem with that would be that you would need an option to fix it in place and I do not know if it would be possible to do so with a tether spout...
     
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    But the problem isn’t too much the push away. Now it was it pretty much staying at it’s place, but the erection went backwards into my body.
     
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    From my perspective the problem should be the space between your body and and the tube.
    That is if you have been correctly inside the tube as you have said.
    That your erection already starting inside your body is just natural as the cavernous body starts inside it as well.
    That is why your errect penis will point away from your body instad of just becoming hard and hanging down...

    So why might you experience pain getting an erection ? Apart from pinching only when you still can become too hard. The cage bending the penis in any other, but its natural direction will cause the pain.

    So the cage is not beeing pushed away from your body and the tube keeping everything in place while ensuring everything stays soft there is not much else that might cause the problem except a-ring and / or the gap.

    At least from my perspective. Might be interesting to hear what others think about it....
     
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    So you reckon, I should try smaller base ring and bigger gap?

    Must say, I can’t thank you enough, to get to the bottom with this. :) Thank you!
     
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    I would say to go for a smaller gap, but are not 100% sure about it. Does your model not come with different spacers and baserings so you can try out ?
     
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    It did, but that was the smallest.
     
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    Get a decent steel cage that is hygienic for months and then man up and push through the discomfort.
     
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    That feeling of the erection pushing back into your pelvic area is a normal consequence of getting hard in a chastity device. Nothing to be worried about, but if you’re experiencing pain, then stop and remove the device.

    Many of us have taken years and lots of devices before we finally get the “perfect fit”, while others find the perfect one off the shelf straight away.
     
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    Hey Aisurix, has it gotten any better for you? I'm also struggling through nights at the moment and also wearing the vice mini. I'm also an uncut grower. My problem is temporary loss of sensitivity sometimes at night, which results in me panicking and being unable to fall asleep. This is despite of having found my perfect fit (as perfect as it can be with this device at least): ring M spacer A.

    Erections are almost not a thing for me with the cage on. When I start getting hard soon the cage is full and my body ends up giving up without any pain at all.

    Crazy how differently it works for different people. I hope your situation has improved!
     
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