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    But not because of the chastity (necessarily).

    My wife has had me locked in for two weeks now and I'm feeling a bit ansty. Earlier this morning, I hinted that I would like to fool around and she said that we would see. I brought it up again at lunch and explained that I was feeling overcome with lust for her.

    She got upset and said "This is exactly why we can't get chastity to work - you are too demanding. I thought this was supposed to be about me but it's always about you. Unlike other women that are into chastity, I don't want a love slave who does everything for me and always wants to serve me. I just want to be left alone to go about my business."

    I found it hard to express myself when confronted with that statement. The fantasy of chastity is, in big part, serving your woman but my wife really could give two shits about that except to make it clear that she isn't interested in it.

    I'm also feeling very submissive to her so I find it hard to discuss these things without being "meek" which she cannot stand either.

    Doing the best I could, I said that I was sorry for upsetting her and suggested that I tried to explain my feelings previously and, without direction from her (she is very quiet and withdrawn about relationship stuff - chastity or not), my mind led me down its own paths.

    I said that I wanted to continue trying and if she would provide some guidance I would be able to get my head straight and act the way she wanted. I also told her that I'm at the point where I am starting to seriously want out so I'm doing everything I can to resist upsetting her to the point where she wants to call it quits.

    She said that if we stop, I cannot ever bring it up again because she doesn't want to spend the next 50 years trying and failing to implement chastity in our lives. I asked her if she wanted to continue and she said that we are continuing.

    Bottom line is she wants me to accept being locked in and not annoy her all the time with requests to do things for her (housework, sexual, anything really) and to stop talking about the chastity.

    This seems like a big departure from the fantasy and I need to re-think whether I want to continue.

    Your advice is welcome. Do you think she will become more "engaged" and dominant over time? Do you think she will become used to my lowered role and start taking advantage of her new situation? Or should I just say hell with it and give it up?
     
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    rschulz00. I'm afraid it doesn't sound too hopeful to Me. your Wife is clearly not interested. It surprises Me that She does not wish you to do household tasks, why not just do them without asking Her, I'm sure She would appreciate it. Stop being so demanding, that would upset any Mistress.
     
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    To me, it sounds like your wife has a valid point that you are making it all about you (while pretending it is about her) or trying to make HER into something you want HER to be rather than letting her make YOU into something she wants YOU to be.

    For example, the choices you offer at the end are a) Wife becomes more like *I* want her to be, B) wife becomes more like *I* want her to be (it's really the same thing as the first choice) or c) *I* give it all up.

    Where is the choice: I say the hell with it and do whatever she says and the way she wants to do it on HER terms, not mine.

    I don't see you offering that as a possibility anywhere.

    sissy deena
     
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    I swear on Tina’s penis that I mean no disrespect, and I have no desire to be rude, but as I read your post all I could think was, “You’re an idiot.” It’s possible I’ve completely misunderstood your post, in which case I apologize for being an idiot myself. I’ve numbered the points in your post so my responses aren’t too confusing.


    1. Go with it. Learn to love the lust. Feel the lust grow, and grow, and grow, and grow until it is more intense than you’ve ever dreamed possible. I promise that when your wife decides to let you cum, it will also be like nothing you’ve ever dreamed possible.
    2. If you’re truly serious about serving your wife, she just told you how to do it in very clear, concise words. Serve her by not serving her. Serve her by not pestering her. I’d bet Tina’s tiny tool that if you could leave her alone for a few weeks, you’d see a completely different woman.
    3. One of the things I’ve learned in Chastity Mansion is that the fantasy of chastity is different for everyone.
    4. If you truly want to satisfy your need to feel submissive, then surrender to your wife’s will. Your wife wants a man not a wimp. Surrender your “meekness” and be the man your wife wants. Submission is not about fulfilling your fantasies; submission is about surrendering to your Mistress, doing everything she wishes with total devotion and unconditional obedience.
    5. I was once very quiet and withdrawn about relationship stuff, especially sex. My husband repeatedly begged me to dominate him, but I would not even consider it. I knew, with absolute certainty, that I was never going to dominate him sexually or any other way, and I just wanted him to shut the fuck up about it. Now I’m a professional dominatrix, go figure. Based on this post I think your wife is doing an admirable job of expressing herself.
    6. I think you should accept being locked in and stop pestering her. You need to realize that your wife has complete control of your cock. She will then realize that she really does have complete control of your cock. Then it’s a whole new ball game.
    7. As was said earlier, you really think this is all about you don’t you? Maybe you should try to convince your wife to be the submissive.
    8. Are you out of your fucking mind? Do you have any idea how many men on this board would love to have a wife that holds their key. There are dozens if not hundreds of men in Chastity Mansion that would love to give your wife exactly what she wants in exchange for her controlling their cocks. Tina and I are constantly getting messages from men who say they wish they could have a dom/sub relationship like ours. If quitting means your wife will never play again I would exhaust every possible cure before I gave up.
    I’m not at all sure if I’ve communicated my thoughts clearly. In the simplest words I’d say: just give your wife anything and everything she wants, whether it fits into your fantasy or not. 99% of Tina’s life is not getting what she wants. Stop worrying about when your next orgasm will be. A few months of chastity will make you a new and better man.




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    Often the man's fantasy becomes the wife's fantasy (chastity). As she understands that she has full control, oh boy, you could be in 'troube' but again - that's exactly what you wanted isn't it?
    I know it can be difficult sometimes to accept you're not in control anymore. But be strong and brave and just be the best you can be to your wife. She will start to see your good behaviour and she will be happy about your chastity.

    It took my wife a while to understand the chastity lifestyle and the way it could benefit her. Now to her the greatest benefit is that she feels happy knowing I can't no longer pleasure myself watching porn etc. That alone makes her feel good.
     
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    Rather than concentrating on your fantasies, concentrate on hers. Don't become something that you weren't prior to being locked up. Stay the person that she married, just do nice things for her without thought of reward. Just do the housework without begging to have her 'assign' it to you, cook nice things for dinner without expecting anything in return, rub her shoulders after a hard day at work. It's things like this that will show her that you're serious about it as a lifestyle and not as cheap thrills.

    Once she sees how she can benefit from it, you'll find that the whole thing becomes far less frustrating. Talk to her when the time is right and make an agreement to a 90 day trial period, in which you stay locked up and don't bother her about it or anything sexual. If you truly want her to control you, then you need to let her do so.
     
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    Tomorrow is the three week mark since my last orgasm. I have spent most of the time locked in the device. The longer I am in it, the more the fantasy aspects fade away and I'm left with a constant, steady longing for her - any part of her or any interaction with her.

    Right now, I'm not really loving the chastity device. The horniness has been a steady companion for so long that now it's just a dull, persistent ache. With the CB6000s, it's twice as frustrating as my old CB6000 because now my penis can't even stretch out and get semi-erect. I forget what erections even feel like after only a few days of re-application of the device.

    I really want out. I tried to bring it up to my wife but I couldn't find the words.

    I did manage to tell her that the new device is more frustrating and her comment was "good, that's the way it's supposed to be". Lately she seems to always have this amazing smile on her face. I can't tell if she's just happy or if she's amused at my situation. I think it's a bit of both.

    I've also noticed that she no longer is doing certain chores. I'm not sure if that's intentional or if she knows that I will do them in my current state of mind. Either way, I do them because it does give me happiness to think she appreciates my actions.

    I feel somewhat ashamed that I want out. I'm also a bit nervous about asking her because of a conversation I had with her yesterday regarding punishment.

    When she was a bit tipsy on Saturday she brought up the crop and how she really knows how to use one. I had told her at the time that I don't want that. After re-evaluating, I determined this was more of me trying to top from the bottom and not submit to her. I spoke to her yesterday about it and apologized for trying to make her feel guilty if she wanted to do it or if she felt that I needed it. She said that I shouldn't worry about it and she will do what is best for us. She did appreciate my apology though and my recognition of my incorrect behavior.

    This desire to ask to be let out is really building. I almost wish she would use the crop on me to stop me from thinking release is an option.

    Ugh.
     
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    I realize everyone is different, but if my wife/owner/KH let me out when I told her I was tired of the belt, it would quickly lose its role in our lives. We actually do have written in that if I safeword out of the belt for a reason other than physical harm, it will never come back into action -- as your wife came up with.

    Seriously, it does sound like progress -- on both your parts. You're moving away from topping from the bottom -- or at least toward being aware when you're doing it -- on both chastity and punishment. For me, chastity more than many other physical aspects of power play really requires the authority transfer. I hope you can find a way for this to meet needs for both of you.

    NdK
     
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    Ugh... omg ... so since my last post, my wife and I went out to a spring gathering outdoors. The weather was quite chilly. Usually I am ok with cooler weather and prefer it to hot weather.

    All of a sudden, it felt like I was being wracked / kicked in the nuts. This happened once before so I knew what it was - one of my testicles was retreating from the cold and pulled through the ring. Am I the only one that has had this happen to? Sick to my stomach.

    The easy answer is to go to a smaller ring. But my skin is already red and slightly raw where the current ring sits.

    Any advice? Tough it out with a smaller ring? Build up callouses? How have others handled this?
     
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    I guess my wife is more interested in continuing chastity than I thought. I really can't figure her out.

    After the Great Testicle Escape (see post above), she gave me the key so I could get out since it wasn't completely on any more and I couldn't shove the testicle back through. I explained what happened and the pain and asked what she thought I should do and she said that I should avoid getting cold (ha, ha).

    I also took that opportunity to tell her how I had been feeling and that the chastity wasn't fun any more and that I was just feeling a bit beat down and tired of it all. She said that she could imagine I was and told me that I could have the night off and put it back on in the morning. I re-stated that I was kind of worn out on chastity and was thinking we should take a break and asked what she thought of that. She said firmly "you should put the device back on in the morning".

    I told her that I understood and thanked her for helping me through this weak period. She said that it's fine and she would make sure that I don't back out of our arrangement.

    I apologized for questioning the situation and told her that every time she tells me to get back in, it makes it easier for me to stop questioning it because I know her answer will be "get back in the device". She said that's the plan.

    So I'm back in now - using the same size ring for now and hoping the weather warms up.
     
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    Let the skin heal and get back in it using a smaller ring. I've found that Solarcaine gel is a huge help to deal with the ache caused by smaller rings as you're getting used to them, especially at night or in cooler weather.
     
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    Oops.. Having internet troubles tonight, sorry!
     
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    Epiladdy,
    I've had some problems with my right testicle "escaping", and yes, it hurts. BUT there are times you can't allow it to show. I work as a mechanic, and deal directly with the customers. As I was explaining a problem to the vehicle owner I had to bend down to show them what I was talking about and "pull, POP". I felt it coming on, knew what was about to happen, and had to act totally normal. I think I did okay, didn't miss a beat on my explaination.

    I have figured out that I can pop it back thru (yes it's always the right one, just rides higher I guess), if I catch it very soon after it happens. Keeps me from having to call "She who must be obeyed" to ask for the key... I do tell her what happened within a few minutes, per our contract though!!
     
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    Ugh... happened again. Right testicle decided to make a break for it and retreated past the ring.

    I guess I have to go with a smaller ring. Haven't told the wife yet - am going for a run first unencumbered.
     
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    I had same problem. First went to smaller gap, then smaller ring. no more pop. I does hurt.
     
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    Its not the ring size that causing the problems, its the spacers.
    Larger ring, smaller spacers. You wont get sore and you wont 'pop' out.

    Mistress Michelle
     
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    I agree with Mistress Michelle. My "popout" problem stopped when I figured out the right combination which was second largest ring and second smallest spacer.

    deena
     
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    Thanks for the advice all - I will try a shorter spacer first.

    BTW - I guess I'm totally clueless. My wife consistently sends messages now that she wants me in chastity.

    I told her I popped out again and mentioned that I needed a smaller ring (at least that's what I thought until I read the above messages). She looked at me genuinely confused and said "I'm not sure why you are telling me this". I said "well, what do you think I should do?" She said "keep trying until you find the right combination to be locked in without these problems. What did you think I was going to say?"

    I'm unnecessarily confusing myself apparently. All indicators are that she wants me in it. It's hard to accept at times - particularly right now as the novelty of the chastity has greatly worn off at 3 weeks and 2 days of no orgasm.
     
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    I have moved to the shorter spacer and the problem of accidental escape is long gone. My wife seems happier (she didn't like the idea that I could escape even involuntarily).

    The shorter spacer makes it even more frustrating as I never have even semi-erections any more and it's very unnerving. When I told her, she said that was good news as it will help me stay in the right mind set.

    Here's what I have to say: UGH! I want out right now!!!!!! Let me out!!!!! Please, please, please.

    Sorry to vent - she has made it clear that she doesn't want to hear it any more and at times I am so frustrated I feel like climbing the walls. She has really started clamping down little by little. This is what I asked for and deep down it's what I want so I won't complain to her but it is difficult at times to accept.
     
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    NOW you're getting to the right place! Soon you will embrace and love these very feeling you are venting about now. :)

    deena
     
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    sissy deena is very wise.
     
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    I asked my wife this weekend if she was ok with me asking to be released from time to time and she said it was fine. I said that I noticed that every time I asked she always said "no" and she said "yes, the answer is always going to be no unless it's a medical issue. Do you have a medical issue currently?" I didn't and told her no and she replied "well then you are staying in until I decide when to let you out."

    I said that there didn't seem much point in asking then if it is always going to be "no" and she laughed and said that was correct unless it was a medical emergency of some sort. I said I guess I will give up and stop asking then and she said "that's what I would like".

    I guess I don't get why she didn't just tell me not to ask but, at this point, the result is the same so she gets what she would like.
     
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