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Formula for increasing obedience

Discussion in 'Female led relationships' started by Dogchasecats, Nov 1, 2017.

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  1. Dianna1395
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    One thing which supposedly makes sexual adherence better is prolonged penetration.
    If he remains inside her after orgasm for a while, he will become more bonded to her.

    I forget the reasoning behind it, you'd have to google, and get lucky, but since we're talking chastity and then release? Why not.
    Introduce him to chastity, make sex a regular once-a-week intimacy, and keep him inside you when you're intimate. I'd suggest pursuing Tantric sex as the reasoning behind it, as she can cum as many times as she wants, but he is supposed to abstain from orgasm. Then, if he comes or not, you're increasing the duration, and the energies will merge (I'm going new-agey here, but it seems appropriate as a description.)

    Also, as a romantic & intimate thing - one of the best experiences with a past girlfriend, I sat down, she sat on my lap facing me, and we inserted me inside her, and then just moved enough to keep us both "interested". I think it lasted about an hour, sharing breath, energy, love... It was awesome...

    -Dianna
     
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    I'm definitely in the "submissive TENDENCIES" but wants to be manipulated" crowd. So I get it. I think a lot of guys are wishing that their wives would withhold orgasms from them, tease them, and start demanding foot rubs and being bossy. Any form of psychological manipulation to me is super hot. (so you can see its something I want for me, not because I am "submissive" per se)
     
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    Am I really that different from other subs? I honestly don’t think I am. In fact, I have many shortcomings. I am 100% man when it comes to housework, I am lousy at paying bills on time, etc. These mundane things are where I thrive in a FLR b/c I compliment my partner & She me. I’m the artist/silversmith who is also a nerd; I really (&stereotypically) need strong leadership to thrive & I revel in it.

    But I don’t feel like I’m unusual at all, although, truth be told, I hear that a lot from various ladies. This always has puzzled me. If a man isn’t submissive...why would he put up with all this? No one has to work this hard to get laid in 2017. All I can really say is that I have always felt called to be of service since I was a young man- it’s only the last 5 yrs or so I realized that I’m a complete sexual submissive. (I was an MP in the Army for 8 years; being aggressive & alpha is easy & I have the scars on my fists to prove it; but my favorite part of the job was always interacting w/dependents & helping other soldiers out, rather than being a hardass looking for ways to jack them up.)

    In any event...to whatever degree you need to change your husband’s patterns, may I suggest “Control Theory” by Charles Glasser? I spent 11years in my previous career working in psychiatric hospitals & residential treatment facilities & I have never encountered a better book that explains why people behave the way they do & how to motivate them to behave more appropriately*. It’s short, easy to read & implement, & I can’t recommend it enough.

    I have used it to change hundreds of lives in my previous career & I actually use its principles today as a parent AND to keep myself in line.

    Cheers!

    For various values of “appropriate” of course! ;)
     
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    In the movie she says something when Corbin tries to kiss her, when Corbin asks the priest to translate it turns out it means “never without permission”
     
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    Nothing makes me feel more bonded than being inside her for a long time and then ensuring that she has an orgasm and I don't. But there is definitely something to the Tantra / Karezza about actually penetrating without male completion (semen retention) that creates feelings of pure love and desire. Simply abstaining or being teased is not the same for me. JMO.
     
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    Depending on your purposes, I'd suggest a google of "Femme Your Hubby Handbook."
    Should still be out there.
    The techniques are similar to what you outline, but more defined.

    The objective, though, is feminization. You'd have to re-write the risk/reward factors a bit.
    The theories are sound, though, but operant conditioning and pavlovian conditioning are the keys, IIRC.

    Worth a look....

    However: if done correctly, you should have him BEGGING for what you'll do to him. ;-)

    -Dianna
     
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    Wow thanks I will look it up. Thanks. What did you like about the book. Did you try any techniques yourself.
     
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    Hi, DogChaseCats,
    Yes, that's the exact location - I wasn't sure the group still existed. Multiple additions to the base book should exist.

    I'm genetic male, transgendered MTF, and no - I didn't try any of techniques.
    I kept looking for a kinky girl to try them with me...

    Now, I'm more on the Daddy side, so I've become more dominant, and well-trained from a lousy relationship with a domineering but needy, nasty, incapable female.
    I've worn the mask so long, it's part of me.
    Sorry I can't give much advice that way, but I'll tell you the techniques can only be used on someone who responds.

    And the only information I have is hindsight on how to avoid a destructive relationship, so I'll stop there. :)
    -Dianna
     
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    In a conventional relationship involving any form of power transfer (did I say conventional ..I'm definitely becoming warped) here is nothing wrong with expanding and exploring each others limits the liklihood is in most cases its a natural progression. In regard to TTTWD the progression of limits and them being tested is perhaps one sided, but it happens at a pace the keyholders dictate which if they are sensible they jugde carefully at each stage as they move the one they control gently in the direction they want.

    As far as permission goes; Nothing happens without mutual consent, in most good relationships that are going to endure, but what each party might have mutually consented to when they started on this journey may well be far removed from what they will each consent to or ask of each other now or next year.

    Just over 7 months ago I changed from 1 months self denial to being self locked in an emlalock (3 month max) account to being locked denied and controlled by a new KH a complete novice whose said last week I will get a release and it 'probably' wont be more than 2 years. What I'm saying is she has moved the goalposts (if there are any now) the game remains ours and the control is all hers and all within 6 months and yet all with my permision.. Where will it be in 12 months I don't know.

    Would I have imagined in May this year that I might have consented to all thats happened, of course not.
    She has taken me with my permission in the direction in which she wants us to go. And I am going along willingly.
     
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    Although I find psych head games really hot like “do this or I will show this picture to all your friends”, the reality is that women already have this power anytime they want to use it.

    Think about it, she could just tell everyone you know about all the things you’ve done or allowed her to do. They would believe the details from a significant other with no axe to grind. My kh could do this anytime she wanted and there would be nothing I could do. She could show others my texts or the pics I’ve sent. There are a million different embarrassing things she could share with the world, the only thing holding her back is her unwillingness to hurt me, and her embarrassment of others knowing of what she was involved in. She doesn’t need physical evidence to threaten, so the threat is rather empty unless she was really willing to expose me.

    That being said, and knowing that I am quite certain she really wouldn’t hurt me, her using a hardball attitude, threatening, and bringing up her option to expose me or else, is very hot and would certainly push my buttons into subbie mode.
     
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    Congratulations if this works well for you. Some guys need the strict discipline and respond better to fear of punishment and consequences, especially if it's something they're resistant to, so I think your approach makes perfect sense. The only thing you must ensure is that he absolutely cannot pull out of the device without your knowledge or approval. Good luck.
     
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    #1 is the fundamental key in a FLR. A plan to expand your authority and his limits is always exciting and it adds structure to your relationship. From my vantage point, you are being proactive -- and I'm sure your partner is very responsive to you. I much prefer a proactive female to a passive one.
     
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    I like the conditioning idea to establish full and unquestionable obedience. As a dominant woman, I float from one extreme to another. At my most sanguine, I'll be generous and giving, at my most strict, I'll take what i want and be cruel just for fun. I have a husband that relishes all of my emotional swings and embraces all of it without question. Women to an extent have been systematically conditioned from time immemorial. I'm happy if dominant women can conjure some fastrack ideas to achieve obedience goals. And as for the blackmail thing, it's only to enhance the submissive state in a fun way. Go girl;)
     
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    Perfect!!
     
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    I like all of it and do all of it in some form except for keeping the pictures to use against him. I've made it clear to him I'm to be his only source of sexual delight and if he gets it from another source (pornography), there will be consequences; spankings and chastity. I've gotten some very painful spanking implements, lately, so that's made him more obedient to me forbidding pornography and masturbation, Having my female friends witness his disciplinary sessions more often have increased his obedience, too. Now, if I decree a spanking session, it's almost a given that one of my female friends will be present. He still begs me not to let a friend watch, even though a lot of them have seen him get spanked a lot of times.
     
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    I cannot agree more, your description of the male brain behavior is perfect .
     
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    I agree. Humiliation is merely the first step in the road to acceptance. The more that women are invited to see men humiliated, the closer we will come to female domination, which is the desired outcome.
     
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    Agree. I have the utmost contempt for passive women.
     
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    Copy that:):+1::kiss:
     
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    After I read this reply of yours the first time I meant to do some googling because I always find the science aspect of behavior interesting. But for whatever reason never did. Since the thread popped back up @Thatgirl@Thatgirl and I were looking around and found the following link. Just thought some might be interested.


    https://examine.com/nutrition/does-ejaculation-affect-testosterone-levels/