Estimated Population in Chastity

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    I know for sure popularity of male chastity are rising based on few things:
    1. More devices in markets than before
    2. You can easily find porn video about them in mainstream porn sites

    Adam and Eve adult store in my city do sell 3 or 4 type of male chastity devices.

    I always feel that brick and mortar stores provide good source for beginners and is okay for anyone who want to get serious with chastity.
     
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    A little off topic, but i thought it was fun none the less. The US military (largest western, but smaller than Chinese or Turkish) Is ~1mil, and < 1% of the population.

    So by your rough estimates, there are more men in chastity than women & men combined in the military, and since US is one of the largest, that probably holds true for most nations in the world, especially western nations.

    So I guess we can have a new advertising slogan in the US.

    Be all that you can be, in Chastity!
     
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    I would expect that the majority of chastity devices sold (especially from bricks and mortar shops) have only been used within sessions rather than long term.
     
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    I have also noticed that the mainstream brick and mortar stores in my area have started to sell male chastity devices, although I haven't noticed any female devices per say. Given the overall title of this thread, "estimated population in chastity," the female population, although maybe not the same numbers as male, would also have to be considered. Perhaps another way to look at this is to ask yourself at what point practicing chastity goes from what some may consider " just kink" to truly being part of a new sexual revolution/evolution.

    From what I have noticed, the numbers seem to be on the rise. Someday perhaps, it will be scientifically quantified. I know of numerous people practicing in my area. Don't know that it will ever be considered mainstream, at least in my life time. But, I believe it is more prominent than ever before. My Bride and I have talked about this topic a few times over the last couple of years. Very interesting for sure.
     
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    You can't really estimate it by the number of devices sold, because so many guys end up with several. This is even more true since the introduction of cheap stainless and plastic Chinese knockoffs and other devices.

    Several online resellers have noted that behind dildos & vibrators, chastity devices are the next biggest selling item. That, plus now that we've seen a few mentions and references on cable TV shows, plus a lot in BDSM porn videos, shows that it's slowly moving into the mainstream sex industry.
     
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    Hi Tom! Yes, I agree about the repeat buyers. I was thinking the average number is “ten” devices per chastity wearer. Well, the average isn’t 1 and definitely not 100.

    Even if we were off by a factor of 3, the rough order of magnitude estimate would be interesting.

    I think the online resellers’ anecdote is really interesting. I also am amused to see so many off-the-shelf bulk sale devices available on Amazon itself.

    I was thinking of asking the custom manufacturers themselves. I wonder the custom manufacturers use sequential order numbers...

    But that doesn’t help estimate the many devices sold via “Amazon / eBay / DHGate”.
     
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    As you already alluded too it wont help in estimating Amazon/eBay/DHGate. But any other manufactures willing to provide numbers should be able to easily. It's a super simple 5 minute job to make a pivot charht to just show you total number of unique orders, or orders per month, or in this case orders per customer. Doing so would provide raw numbers without any personal data (unless they screwed up and sent their logs, which i doubt).
     
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    I am looking for a chastity device that is suitable for long term use. And fits nicely in my panties!

    I looked at a local sex shop. They did have some devices, but choice was limited - I think they were more for "play" than for long term use.
     
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    It would be interesting to know how many people in relationships regularly wear a chastity device as part of their life style or only as a part of play or a a scenario of some type.

    6 years ago Millers the makers of the cbxxxx range claimed they sold 1000s a year.
    i read once that millers again had sold over a million of the cb2000 and cb3000 types. An old article I believe because it did not mention the 6K the 6Ks the 5K or even the Curve.

    For the chinese to bother making a product it must have a market and they have a lot of different models on sale. I'd say the market for these things is on the up. I think I can say without fear of contradiction that the vast majority of devices are worn by men and for the sake of argument that about 10% of those being worn as part of a lifestyle. The rest are duplicate purchases or bought out of interests of for short term T&D games. I imagine the majority are owned by self-locking males.

    Still the actual statisitics would be interesting and it would be in the interest of vendors and makers to make this information much more widely known, it would generate curiosity and therefore more sales. The more that are out there being 'tried' the more people will people will look into TTTWD more and possibly embrace it. The vendors and makers ought to be bringing some of their ability to influence to bear on mainstream media and get CDs more widely talked about.

    When apple or samsung launch a new model of phone or tablet its international news. But not desktops or TVs so CDs have a long way to go before than happens but who knows.....

    I do not envisage a day when most men, at least most men in relationships, will be wearing one but I do foresee the possibility that there will be generally less negative connotations in relation to them and the people who wear them. I also envisage a day when almost everyone is aware that CDs exist and that everyday normal people enjoy having them as part of their lifestyle. I don't expect them to be featured in high street shop windows but the profile could be raised in other ways.

    I digress from the OPs topic and I apologise

    Airport security staff etc are becoming more accustomed to encountering CDs being worn by travellers so again who knows what that would lead to. Anything that creates more mention in the everyday media would help.

    Emphasis is necessary I believe on the fact that not all who wear a CD are submissive ...whether or not that is even true. If more men are to be encouraged to wear them then appeal needs to be created for the man who perceives himself to be of the more 'macho' type. ... type in the sense of stereo that it. Sissyfication would need to be played down at least at first it would as would pegging and other ass play again at least initially. Most men would need enticing into TTTWD very gently and very slowly but it would take far more women to be aware of the benefits to themselves and how to introduce the concept to their partners.

    It is not so much men who need education in all matters chastity and/or FLR related if either or both are to become widespread then it is Women that need to learn the advantages and the how to. And of course T&D and all forms of chastity play need to be promoted to where they can compete with all the other forms of porn. Most men (by no means all) are selfish in sex related matters and need to be shown wha's in it for them. men who can't cope with one woman regularly fantasise about having two and having anal sex with both... what triggered that thinking ...Porn. Porn is the key learn how to both develop appropriate porn and manipulate through it and very soon you could be having keys of your own.

    The key to many a man's heart is through his stomach they used to say .. the key to many a man's desired behaviour is probably easiest through his sex drive his fantasies and his desire to cum.

    I have digressed far too much from Peter Rabbits OP and I apologise . I started of by just thinking to what use could be put the knowledge of how many people wear a CD and went walk-about sorry.
     
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    Back in the old days, I wrote to several of the manufacturers, including the Millers, and did not receive any response - although a rep from AL Enterprises (now the CB-X company) did tell me that the numbers were proprietary. Five years alter, the Chinese were making knock-offs, so...
     
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    Agreed. I purchased over 10 before getting my red chilli device
     
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    There are lots of surveys on BDSM. You can bet on at least 10% developed world m/f and m/m couples doing kink at least some of the time.

    (I take the 10% from a stunning survey of Irish couples.)

    Say 50% of kinky relationships involve male submission (it's M/m, F/m or they switch)

    The chastity device is now a pretty standard malesub accessory, and cheap, so let's say 50% of malesub couples have one.

    So, 10% x 50% x 50% = 2.5% of men have a male chastity device.

    How many are locked in an ongoing way (rather than just for an evening)?

    On the one hand, lifestyle relationships have to be outliers.

    On the other, chastity and D/s has its own gravity. The slope is slippery.

    So let's say 5% of those are locked.

    5% of 2.5% is 0.12%

    So I'd say that 1 in 1,000 men are "locked".

    Which is still pretty stunning. I would guess these are clustered in certain demographics, meaning that if you are locked, then perhaps 1% of the men around you are also locked.
     
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    (actually the Irish survey had 20%, so you can double all that.)
     
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    I attend BDSM swingers events, and have come across the grand total of zero men in chastity devices. I would think that 1 in 1000 is optimistic!
     
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    And I’ve been to events that I know two were and possibly three or four. So that’s why it’s an average.
     
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    Interesting topinc, I have search in other site some information to complement these information, it's in French and for Canada:

    http://osezlacmc.com/passage-a-laeroport-et-renforcement-de-la-securite/

    It says that 4% of the couple are locked in male chastity there, in all case it became a quite popular practice, it is so common in Canada that all caged person can pass directly the customs.
     
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    I can't believe I missed this! The article doesn't cite sources for that 4%, alas - @Kylara? Are you able to dig deeper for us?

    I'm reviving this thread because statistics came up again. Over on another forum, a Chinese vendor estimated that the overall yearly sales of Chinese made devices was 10K, mostly to USA and Australia.
    • This calls into question the CBx claim: At that rate, it would take a century to sell 1 million Chinese devices, and it's unlikely CBx outsells cheaper alternatives.
    • However, it does mean 10K sales yearly to a population of roughly 50 million men of military age. Over 10 years, that means perhaps 1 in 500 US men own a chastity device.
    • Also, if the CBxx claim is accurate, but sales are mostly in the USA, then that gives a very odd statistic of 1 in 50.
    NB My original guesstimate based on the CBx statistic was reasoned this: roughly 500 million men in the developed world; and users who own more than one CBx device are compensated for by those who own none.
     
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    I have my numbers from this site : https://osezlacmc.com/accueil/ it is in French so I will do a little of translations (title mean "dare the male controled chastity").
    The ruller of the site is a former minister of education in canada and gynarchic woman.

    It says 4% of man in Quebec (French canada area) are caged with the key given to their whife. 2.5% in Germanyand sweden, 1.5% in UK, less than 1% in France and Italy.

    Of courses it is not absolute number but an overall idea.

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    Intéressant part:
    En effet, environ 4% des hommes québecois en couple avec une femme ont confié les clefs de leur cage ou ceinture de chasteté au contrôle de leurs femmes. Pour les non-initiées (le site s’adressant essentiellement aux femmes), vous allez comprendre pourquoi et dans quel intérêt. Ce fort pourcentage doit être amélioré encore , mais permet de mettre en relief nos lois existantes quant à la parité dans notre pays, plutôt évoluées (même si beaucoup reste encore à faire) en comparaison d’autres pays. Dans les pays européens, ce pourcentage d’adoption est effectivement beaucoup plus faible : 2,5 % en Allemagne et en Suède, 1,5% en Grande-Bretagne, moins d’1% en France et en Italie.
     
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    Thanks @Kylara Those are pretty mindblowing statistics. But what are their sources?

    The only study they cite is regarding Canada "(survey conducted in 2016 on a sample of 1,000 respondents) ". I think they mean the Quebec sex survey, which you can download free (from a legitimate source, apparently) but seems to have no mention of chastity - though Canadians are definitely a kinky lot!

    Since you seem to have good French, perhaps you could contact them and ask?
     
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    Thank you from a non French Canadian.
     
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    I know one for sure...:)
     
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    With an estimated world population at over 7B, I'd guess at least 10's of millions easy.

    It also depends upon how you define chastity. Do you mean temporary? Just for play? Or do you mean those that wear a device most of the time?

    And let's not forget those that are in chastity without a device. I don't mean the 'incel's, I mean those that could, but choose not to do so for whatever reason.

    With those thoughts in mind, the number goes much higher.
     
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    Ironic. Funny. An industry with room to grow that manufactures items that don't give us room to grow Thank you sandman. Lol. Awesome.

    I also am concerned that filltee didn't have much to say. Lol. There is a guy with passion to spend the time to think and write. Thanks filltee.

    Here is an important chastity statistic we should not overlook. 100% of us use a chastity device. So we just know a better life than the other x% outside our numbers.
     
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    See workings upthread, but it's likely to be no more than 1M in the US, and more like 100,000.
     
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    I used to work in a fetish club and on any given night there would be up to 1/2 a dozen males in CDs not including myself. Up to 3 or 4 females and atwo women that were a couple and that used to be guys would sometimes individually or both wear a CD.

    Whilst that might in some sense give a slight very sketchy estimate of the number of people that are openly involved ithe fetish world I do not really think it either tells or indicates anything you could draw a useful conclusion from. Other than that in some places we are tending to be seeing more of them in use

    Mainstream sex shops have them on the counter and they are featured more prominently in some fetish fairs.

    I wil reiterate what I said earlier ..if the chinese are making and selling them in numbers then there must be a market for them
     
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