Enforce the no discrimination rule

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  1. Ms. Joanne
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    Well as purely suggestions Lucy, first I would unverify the Trans woman you approved. I know its not fair to her but we are talking compromise here and I'm sure the situation can be explained delicately. That would show for the time being that you are respecting the wishes of the males here who enjoy FemDom and the Verified Females who want their own safe zone that the current standard of suitable verification will be maintained.

    I think you need to point out that everyone needs to have a certain degree of tolerance here and do their best to be polite even when they don't agree. And yes that includes me because I swear like a trooper sometimes when I lose my temper. Opinions and disagreement is always welcome but not when they come from a position of hate and turn into blatant abuse. That goes for every topic here. Being respectful to everyone is key, even if you don't like them, just keep that to yourself.

    Politics unfortunately tends to be banned on most forums for the very reason it causes a lot of hate. So not sure what the best option is there.

    There's some of the other things I mentioned like the gallery etc and maybe a Transgender section. That would help some Trans members find their place easier and feel the site is doing as much as it can to promote inclusiveness and diversity. I know you don't see it as bundled together as it stands but some members do.

    How much you decide to do is down to you, it is your site.
     
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    There are so many people on my 'ignore' list I just see pages of posts from Lucy. That's an unfortunate statement about how fractured the user base has become. It takes a lot to land on my ignore list.
     
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    Surely not, it just takes someone to have a different opinion and be unafraid to express it.
     
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    I think if you were running this site you would censor and ban a lot more than I do.
     
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    Well in the interests of harmony on here I have unignored all the people I ignored recently. So that means I don't personally want any more of this friction between members. I really do hope this can be sorted because I love this site and there's some really great people here.
     
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    I'm sure it would come with the territory of having many more users due to the way people wouldn't feel unwelcome. You know, from making sure people aren't creating a hostile environment, and not having an admin that does so themselves.
     
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    You would be banning more people and creating a hostile environment towards anyone who disagrees with you.

    You are going round in circles.

    You would insist you are right and everyone else is wrong.
     
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    It's funny the way you project on me
     
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    Why must we endure the trans discussions in a place that is about male chastity and the admiring and worshiping of women ?

    Haha. Don’t. Read. Them.
     
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    I'm not banning people who disagree with me. You would.

    If you were in charge you would have banned me already.
     
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    It's weird and out of character that you haven't banned me, actually. And here's why. You're trying to use it to prove a point.

    See the thing is, the point isn't proven for long time members who've already seen your behavior.
     
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    You know I actually agree with the last line of your logic. Why would anyone want to go and read something that is of no interest to them? I personally don't like golf but I don't go on golf sites or hang around golf courses complaining to them. I do something else that I prefer. Most people have the common sense to focus on what they like.
     
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    There's also so many things I've disagreed with over the course of my years reading through the forums. I have picked one, exactly one thing to go "hey, maybe we should actually enforce the rules?" Again, I do not care if there is disagreement, except for the fact that if you think people here haven't been discriminating you're objectively wrong.
     
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    I very rarely ban anyone.

    Spammers and scammers join every day and get booted off, but that's a different matter.
     
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    I want to remind you that by your second post here you'd already decided I should've been banned, but only held off "in case I changed my behavior." My behavior hasn't changed, why am I not banned?
     
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    People can say they don't agree that trans women are women, that's their right. It doesn't mean they hate trans women or bear any animosity towards them.

    It's not a reason to ban them.
     
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    Your hostility and intolerance seems to have gone down a level.
     
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    Okay let's propose this is true.

    It doesn't make it not discrimination. And it is still being disrespectful to openly say "you are not <your gender>" to someone.
     
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    A semantic argument never goes anywhere
     
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    That is what you said with your proposed rule for women's spaces. You said only allow in those who "pass". You would be saying the rest are not their chosen gender.
     
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    Again you're claiming things I didn't say. I said present. There is a big difference. Presenting doesn't require someone to decide "okay you look like a girl/boy," just enough that someone can recognize that you've at least put in an attempt. You see the thing is, transgender people who aren't currently putting in an attempt to present will use the bathroom that aligns with their birth sex anyways. And really, we should just have unisex bathrooms everywhere (because I know you're going to say "you're just trying to abolish safe spaces for woman again I'm gonna have to let you know that THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS SAYING GET RID OF GENDERED BATHROOMS. THEY CAN COEXIST). That way transgender people who don't feel comfortable otherwise can go in those. Parents looking after opposite gender kids can go in there with their kids without feeling awkward. People of opposing genders could go to the bathroom together for "strength in numbers," And some non-binary people may never feel like either gender bathroom is appropriate.

    And you don't need someone standing guard. Like they currently are, this can just be the way things are, and people can decide on their own what they're presenting as.

    Or we could just ask for not awful public bathrooms where people can't easily peek through to see you in there. You know, either or.
     
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    You missed the full stop, you insensitve degenerate.
     
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    That's hilarious.

    Because you disagreed with many things and claim you were tolerant, and have now picked something to be intolertant about, you think you get a pass.

    Also, sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "la la la" at the top of your little lungs will only lead you to become even less tolerant of dissenting or alternate opinions.

    This argument comes up a lot with respect to the trans issue and it really does, or should, make everyone stop and think about what it is that makes a human a woman.

    We see practically every celebrity and politician avoiding the question of what it means to be a woman for fear of a trans-attack or worse being cancelled for not being a transphile.

    No man, or woman, would exist without true, biolgical women...and we all know what means. If you get to celebtrate a birthday then it's because of a woman, not someone who merely identifies as a woman.

    It's not hateful, it's not discrimination, it's just a truth. This isn't your mum telling your four yr old self "Oh sweetie, you can be anything you want". If that worked you'd probably be a dinosaur now.

    Both of these are horses, but we all know that the two humans in the pantomine horse costume is not a horse, and it doesn't matter how much grass they eat nor whether they wear a saddle and spend time in a field, nor does it matter whether they demand that everyone uses their horse pronouns.

    horses.jpg
     
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    One thing is for sure. I know I would not be arguing with lucy. It's her web site that she is so gratefully allowing us all to use. Just saying. Argue with lucy equals banned for life.
     
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    So all @JaySaysYes needs to do is at least put in an attempt - maybe put on a nice wig and fix his makeup and shave with a cute little dress - and in your world that would permit him to go into a woman's bathroom or locker room, hard stop?

    What about the women who don't feel comfortable with @JaySaysYes walking around in their bathroom?

    Listen, I am not saying that this issue is not difficult for true transwomen, b/c I am sure that it is, but all of your rhetoric continues to be completely tone deaf to the issue that many women feel threatened by all of this. I have yet to hear you acknowledge that women may not want a penis-owner in places where they feel especially exposed and you haven't offered any valid solution other than require them to make a little more effort in how they present.
     
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