Emasculation vs Feminization

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    I've had many slaves over the years, all kinds of genders and orientations.

    If they have a cock, I usually lock it up, otherwise they wank and lose their focus on serving me.

    (I exempt heavily dysphoric transgender women.)

    For most it is a symbolic emasculation, it is hard to pretend you’re a free agent with that bit of you locked up. So they don’t argue, try to assert themselves, answer me back or nag me! A good reason to do it!

    If I sense they've anything feminine about them I have them dress and be a woman or girl for me, which those that way inclined love, so I and pushing at an open door to feminise them. To an extent I force the pace, which again they love, as they want someone pushing them in the way they really want to go.

    However some identify as gay, or even in womans' clothes, are 'just a man in a frock', there is nothing of the feminine about them at all, so I give up, and just have them work for me, 'presenting male', but symbolically emasculated with the device.
     
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    To me feminisation is when you dress and act as a woman, you take on the aspects of being a woman, were as emasculation is where you are stripped of what is normally seen as the male attributes.
    And this is one of my madams biggest turn ons. To show that I am hers, and under her control, When we are out in public.
     
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    Very Thoughtful. Thank you. I am into feminization and have always been looking for that person to give me the "nudge." :)
     
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    Well, to you, or others, you now know where I am!

    As I am not looking for a 1:1 live-in partner, rather for those to join my circle and serve me occasionally in person , whilst being one of many in a long-term LDR with me, as part of my network, I can always fit more in!

    The bonus for many is that they will find others like them in my network and thereby find support themselves.
     
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    In my experience, I think I have been emasculated by Her stripping away my Alpha Make characteriistics, thoughts and behaviors. Then, after I was broken down, She filled that void in providing my feminine side a place to live and to thrive. I see it a lot like basic training in the military; first they break you down and strip you of your old and routine thoughts and behaviors and then they build you up in the way of life in which you can function and behave more productively. I love who I am now and that Her for helping me get to this place.
     
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    The anaology I make is with 'breaking horses.

    There is the way of the American West where you caught wild mustangs, 'broke them in' with utter brutality to be riding them hard the next day.

    Then there is the 'horse-whisperer' way to gain their confidence, trust and acceptance that if they comply with what you want they'll have a better life.

    The first is a kind of rape, the second more a seduction.

    You see the first in a lot of porn, wriiten by and for 'aspirant girls' who want somebody else to do it to them.

    Sadly occasionally I hear of it happening in real life, often as abuse of a minor, or other crime.

    But the second, seduction into feminisation, is I believe, what we would all support and aspire to.
     
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    I think what really matters is one's own perceptions of the two especially if you are trying to compare them
     
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    I agree with the seduction approach, @Guy ! That is the manner in which She emasculated me by gently pointing out my crude behaviors, helping me understand their arrogance and then teaching me softer and more effective manners and ways to deal with things. Most of it was heling me gain more respect for women in general and Her in particular, and how to treat each accordingly. (I had been a real jerk!)
     
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    Yes, looking back, I was definitely not always a 'nice young man', though better I hope than most!

    I don't think I was ever 'emasculated' as such but in my early 20s I had a very sexy, responsive lover, who came from South Wales. She considered Michael Foot and Tony Benn as right-wing establishment stooges, (when rthe media said they were lefty loonies), and the Socialist Workers Party as being far too bourgeois for her.

    Anyway she was studying sociology and was a good cook. As I was a speed reader, I'd skim the books, (which included a lot of left-wing and feminist sources), that she was expected to read. I'd scribble a precis of the essay I thought they'd want, while she cooked dinner.

    Then we'd eat, bonk like a couple of rabbits, she'd take my precis, put her personal spin on it and write the essay, whilst I did the washing up, etc.

    She took no prisoners in debate, was an ardent feminist and reading the books and discussions with her, helped me see that the privileges I had as a male, white, well-spoken, well educated, middle-class, healthy able bodied person as what they are, and to have more empathy and sympathy for others.

    I think that, two marriages, bringing up 6 kids through often hard times, has made me a much better man!
     
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    For me, emasculation is both a vehicle for control and an expression of my inferiority as a male. When I am locked in chastity, it is a way for me to admit my cock and my masculinity fail to meet acceptable standards. When I give the key to someone, it is a signal that my role is as a servant and they deserve to be in control. Feminization is a reward for me, to be allowed to experience the joyful sensations of presenting as a woman. I would gladly wear the cage and give my key to a Master Dom like Sir Guy, in exchange for the privilege of dressing as a maid and providing service to him. Emasculation and feminization can be separate but are best when intertwined.
     
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    Thank you.

    All I'd say in resp[onse is that feminisation suits those who have that potential within themselves.

    If they just don't have that, it is not the right answer for them. As the saying goes, "horses for courses!"

    [horses for courses: (PROVERB•BRITISH): different people are suited to different things.]
     
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    We practice emasculation and it works well for us. My keyholder is queer, and has little or no interest in sex, and my wife has a low drive, and is not heavily into dick. For us, it's a process of removing the penis from my life, and reducing it to something I pee with, and keep locked. Being denied erections was the turning point for me, into embracing emasculation. That really was the tipping point. I struggled with it at first, especially "around the guys" as many of us do. Eventually my sex drive has dropped. My desire for orgasm is nearly gone, I rarely ever desire genital stimulation, despite a constant state of low level frustration. When aroused, I desire to give pleasure. To touch. To feel someone elses pleasure, but not to have my own, selfishly, or involve my penis. I'm essentially a locked, chaste, kinky guy, who bottoms to two women who I feel are worthy of bottoming to and serving. I'm willingly impotent, and have fully embraced giving pleasure over having or receiving any. A couple of times a year, my keyholder will unlock me and beat the living daylights out of my man parts, or get the needles out. Otherwise she ignores anything between my legs.

    Having said all that, we have encouraged emasculation without changing the essential masculinity that I have. Neither woman sees me as less of a man for being locked and without and erection to use. Oddly, I did start to get feelings of being turned on by inadequacy, but maybe because the strap on I wear is a bit bigger than I was. A downside to being decently endowed is that you are expected to Top, and use it to give pleasure. This was a big part of why my queer keyholder/Mistress felt strongly that it had to be taken away from me. My wife has allowed me many kink partners over the years, and it's often be a case of "Ohh. I want you to use that dick on me!", as part of the role definitions. Finding someone who I wanted to serve, and not Top was big for me. Not being valued for my dick was another huge realization as well.

    I do have trans friends in real life, and cross dresser friends as well. I've not felt any real pull that way, despite the chastity and admiring the people that I know. I wondered if I might. It has made me more bi, I would say though. I would also say that I really enjoy the commonality that being locked/chaste gives me with feminized guys and trans women. We have all rejected the expectations of the organ between our legs, and the symbolism that comes with that. We can find, give and receive pleasure without having to be defined or controlled by our genitals. I feel the most genuinely me, when I became a chaste bottom to people I really feel right bottoming to. After years of being a typical guy....That's what feels right for me.
     
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