Dominant woman who doesn't know she's a dominant

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    I wish I could tell one of my bosses about Chastity Mansion and about chastity in general, she is an alpha female (I assume based on behavior) and I don't think she knows it. She has had such bad luck dating men since I've known her and I know she's pretty discouraged especially the older she gets. She's only 37 and she's very attractive but dates the wrong type of men for her. Oddly enough she would date men a good 10-15 years older than her. I asked her why she dated men older than her and her main response was that she's already had a child and is not interested in having any more. An older gentleman would also more than likely be more financially secure and therefore they'd be able to travel more etc... I wouldn't say she's necessarily looking for a sugar daddy but a lot of guys her age that are looking to date typically have younger kids from divorce or they're single for other reasons. I'm not saying all single guys in her age range fit that category, there a ton of single people around her age but it seems that's she's meeting the turds.

    Her last BF was clearly a submissive male and she ran his shit. Funny thing is I don't think he knew he was a submissive and she didn't know she is a dominant. They dated for almost 2 years before she ended it finding out some really creepy shit about him that he never told her. It all came to a head where the truth had to come out about him. Ironically I think she was going to dump him at some point soon anyway because he is terrible at following directions. I really think she enjoyed telling him what to do but was livid when he'd constantly screw their plans up.
    So it became clear to me that she liked having the control over him and being able to tell him what to do and can't stand disobedience, I.e. dominant female.

    I thought to myself that she was missing out big time not having her own sub in chastity for her. I think she'd truly be a lot happier if she knew about this type of lifestyle. Who knows, maybe she does know about it but I kind of doubt it. I spoke with my Miss and there's no way Miss would feel comfortable talking about the chastity lifestyle with my boss even though we're all friends. I have to admit I don't know how I'd feel if my boss knew my secrets, might make things interesting lol. I wish there was a way to anonymously invite someone to check out the mansion and chastity to see what the lifestyle is all about. But how do you invite someone to look at a website like the mansion, it's a lot to swallow unless you know what you're looking at.

    Has anyone else here ever known an alpha or dominant female that didn't know they were a dominant? It kills me, she deserves so much better than the crap men she's been dating and I really think she's missing out.
     
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    Yes I’ve met many alpha women who weren’t in the lifestyle.
    I’m not sure how you make them aware of it.

    My thought is some sort of anonymous email but how I’m not sure. And not sure how that would impact you except negatively if it was ever traced back to you and things went bad.

    On a positive I’ve been talking to a friend of mine who knew about bdsm who is now interested and interested in raising awareness of female dominance. So who knows maybe we can find efforts like these to help more women know about it and why it’s a lifestyle to consider.
     
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    I think a lot of vanilla women would be interested in chastity if they knew it doesn't have to include other fetishes, just lock him up and release him when/if he can be useful.
     
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    I think many women are alpha but society teaches/keeps them in traditional roles
    Would it be possible to leave some literature where she could get it w/o being traced back to you
     
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    Perhaps a typed letter in an envelope, slipped.under her office door at the end of the day
     
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    I agree
    But don’t forget there are many people who don’t consider themselves kinky who do some light play every now and then. Blindfolds, light bondage with scarfs and ties, role playing, sensation play etc are all things “vanillas” do and don’t realize are “kink light”.

    Or as I kid, are the gateway drugs to BDSM and what I use as a kink pusher to convert vanillas.
     
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    I know quite a few alpha women in higher management positions, and a few them of are sexually submissive. One can't gauge sexuality preferences based on gender or professional views. I was close friends with one who was like I own the world everywhere .... but the bedroom ... you own that.

    Women want to feel safe, respected. They want to lead and do and experience, but a hyper majority desire a partner in crime to do the dance with. This range covers a large swath of normal, where if one looks at it they can say "hey" .... master/slave .... and they will say "say what".

    Great examples of this are rural and country equestrian women. They tend to own the 1000 lb plus animal, and dealing with a man once they handle say horses ..... isn't much different.

    As for my friend, she didn't get how I could be a switch. In the end for me it was due to two nasty traumas, a mix of very traditional upbringing, and not dealing with shit.

    I now understand things very well ... but it is shit I wish I didn't experience ... but it is what it is.

    A lot of women if they knew about chastity ... would probably jump at it, but it would actually take conditioning from a young age IMO .... Gen Z women maybe able to handle this; however, I believe given the gender wars and the men just not giving two shits ..... revert back to traditional stereotypes in the end ....
     
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    I think it's difficult to look at someone's day to day behaviour and demeanour and try to extrapolate from that how they might behave sexually. They're different things. The Me who goes to work every day is a very different person from the Me writing this post.

    You never know what's going on in someone else's head.
     
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    I think there is a broad correspondence between normal and kink self. However, it's more to do with where you get your certainty from. Submissives - like me - can be very socially or professionally dominant, but usually when championing something or someone. The picture is confused, however, by service tops and dominant bottoms, fetishists, and switches who just like their erotic lives structured but don't care which way.

    The woman in the OP certainly sounds dominant and a classic case of a dominant woman who - because of patriarchal culture - feels impelled to flip flop between somebody more dominant, which of course doesn't work, and somebody weak, which also doesn't work (because weak <> submissive).

    If I were talking to a female friend with such an issue, rather than raising kink or FLR, I might suggest that she needed the equivalent of a wife because for practical reasons alone, there is usually only room for one driven and dynamic person in a relationship. This doesn't have to be a loser, but rather somebody who would champion her and revolve around her while still bringing something to the table. For how this might work, I would point her to the series Castle.
     
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    Perfect analogy! Our relationship borders on the weekend recreational user
    But I’m looking for a new drug!!
     
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    this and the Honey post are the best two concepts to come from CM in recent memory.
     
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    I would agree that it's hard to tell, I don't know her intimately and that's really only way to know 100%. However based on my learnings of dominant women and behaviors my Miss has started to exhibit over that last 3 plus years and the fact that I've know the woman I'm talking about for nearly 8 years I feel that we've been open enough with each other that I feel good about my conclusion of her being a dominant. Especially seeing which relationships worked out better for her over those 8 years. The more submissive seeming men and there's only been 2 that I recall (assuming they were submissive, they sure seemed like it), seem to make her the most happy. The other guys she's dated seemed to come and go quickly and it was always her that dumped them.

    We all put on somewhat of a mask to go through our daily lives because we don't want to make ourselves vulnerable to people we don't know. That being said I still think some people are more obvious than others with projecting themselves especially if they're not afraid of exhibiting some submissive or dominant behaviors in public.
     
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    The other point I was really trying to convey was I wish I knew if she was aware of Male Chastity because it could be something that could benefit. I'm just assuming she needs to try something new and maybe that might give her more success towards what she's looking for.
     
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    @Wonderwomanssub -- You've known this woman for 8 years and are obviously very close to her, talking about her relationships, meeting her BFs etc. Why don't you just man up and talk to her yourself if you think she'd be receptive?
     
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    We are close and talking about this type of stuff with her wouldn't actually be that big of a deal hypothetically. The problem is that if I talk to her about chastity I'm not only exposing myself but also my Miss and I don't have the right to do that. If Miss chooses to tell someone about us I see that as her right, if I'm going to tell someone I need her permission. I messaged my Miss about my boss needing to know about chastity and our lifestyle, I didn't actually mean that I was going to tell her I just meant I thought she should know. The reply I got back was "DON'T SAY ANYTHING!!" Lol. So that's that lol.
     
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    If your itch to talk gets the better of you, and you can't stop from opening your mouth.

    Ask as a female leader how do you maintain work and life balance and happiness with interpersonal relationships? If she asks further, then you can state you are wanting to improve relations with your wife and you value her views on female leaders in life.

    The key thing is to keep it short, sweet, and "listen".

     
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    Yes indeed. As I think Miss Lucy mentioned, more women could benefit from the advantages of chastity, if only they knew about it and realised what it actually was, as opposed to the porn image of it.
     
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    Kink pusher.
    Love it!
     
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    Shssshhhhh

    Gotta keep it quiet
    I’ve brought several vanillas to the dark side. It’s not hard, it does require patience and ability to ask questions, confidence and a willingness to walk away.

    Just think if every kinky person got to vanillas to come to our side how things would be.

    What funny is most people are kink friendly if you don’t act like a pushy creepy jerk
     
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    If all vanillas went kink that would make kink normal and vanilla kink:)
     
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    You have to help me with me KH.
     
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    Yes my wife dom kh
    Lol when I was finding her years ago she was and is that but she don’t seem to know it and it took years for it to hit her and when it finally did she realized this is good for her and us! I saw all the traits in her and I tried opening her up to it . It took years but we’ll worth the wait for both of us and I am so happy she stuck with me!
     
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    Hi! One approach could be for the 3 of you to have dinner together (your boss, your wife/KH). During the dinner, take care of all of the details (serving, tending to drinks, clean up, etc). I'm sure your boss will notice the reversals of roles and might ask about it. If your wife is wearing a key, plus the behavior at dinner.. Might provoke a conversation between them because of the subtle messages taking place. Hope it goes well. Can't wait to hear an update. All of the best wishes!! J.
     
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    Many vanilla Women would be interested in male chastity if they understood the many benefits that accompanies it. The harder parts is how do you properly approach the subject to them as it isn't quite the "norm" just as of yet; however, hopefully in the future someday it will. It wouldn't involve anything sexual at all. Lock him up and watch his behavior change for the better.
     
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    I think theres lots of Ladys that are dominant .
     
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