Do ruined orgasm count against you?

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    In reading some of the guides on male chastity my KH @Mochi and I are reading, one writer recommends no more than 1 orgasm a month If I only get one orgasm a month I'd rather it be a whole one than just a ruined one, as pleasureable as they might be.

    I know this all varies based on the dynamics of the couple but what is the prevailing wisdom in this area?
     
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    My undeniable wisdom is - that at least for our part - we do not count anything in the first place. It is at her discretion only.

    In understand why some people - especially in the beginning - feel more comfortable with set amounts and times, but in the end this is limiting her and not necessary when the two of you have a good understanding of each other.
     
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    To me a ruined orgasm is almost worse than nothing.

    I gotta discount it a lot. At least a 2 to 1 ratio.

    Just my humble opinion.
     
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    The metaphor isn't perfect but bear with me

    If you've never had a brownie and decide it's time to bake some it's best to stick to a recipe until you find out What your tastes are Then you can determine where you want to deviate from

    So until we both figure out where our happy spot is we're want to stick with some of the guidelines until we see what works besy for us/her
     
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    Some articles I have read describe those as being enormously frustrating and others as exquisitely pleasurable

    I don't think my wife has perfected it yet but what she is doing is extremely pleasurable

    WhiIe I don't feel the release of an orgasm I am in a high state of arousal and feel somewhat satiated
     
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    Yes, they do account against you, an orgasm is an orgasm, any form of release, be it a full, partial, ruined, whatever she desides.
    But boy, those totally "ruined ones" are so hard to expierence, but feel wonderful afterwards, to think your k/h achieved that level of perfection!
    I believe a "real" ruined orgasm is extremely hard to achieve, one stroke too many and it's an orgasm, one stroke less, and nothing happens! (oh, the pleasure in trying)

    So yes, in your case, if your wife has said only 1 a month, doesn't matter how, then youve just had yours!

    Good luck in your journey.
     
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    This year my Wife wants to allow one full orgasm per month as the norm, but she’s been giving me a ruined or two per month also. The way she’s giving them or allowing them has actually made my lust and desire even more intense. It does relieve some pressure as far as feeling like I’m going to just cum any time we touch, but not only do I experience total zero subdrop, I’m finding my horniness level jumps up a level or two within an hour or so.
    It starts to drive me crazy! While I know she’s not going to give me a full orgasm any time soon, my mind and body start to crave the edging and teasing of those ruins, even though I know ultimately it’s going to make me even more desperate for that full release that may be weeks away! Diabolical!

    And my Wife loves it! Most of them she gives by hand, but she’ll allow some by telling me to rub on her bottom and I know I have to ruin it myself or face consequences, and this weekend she had me ruin one by slowly rubbing on her clit and ruining it on her before cleaning it and giving her an orgasm orally. Talk about self control!
     
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    In our dynamic, ruined orgasms do count as "orgasms". Domina is allowing me six orgasms this year and i deeply fear that She may choose to have one or more of them ruined. But the choice is Hers alone.

    But this will certainly be up to each chastity wearer and his Keyholder. Part of the fun in chastity play is deciding (or just hearing) the rules that the Keyholder chooses to use. So have fun and good luck!

    asa
     
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    I would count the ruined one, to me adds to the frustration:) and allows your partner to decide. You expressed your desire, I guess it depends on what you are wanting. Her to decide or you decide :)

    Someday, I wish my wife would play :) I express my desire and allow her to decide. The scary part you may never get a full one, but I guess that’s part of staying sexually frustrated :) and depending on her to meet that need :)
     
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    I've never been given an intentional ruin, i've had 2 accidental ruins already this year though.
     
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    I think as with any ‘instructions’ you read on chastity, take it with a pinch of salt. Have fun discovering what works for you as a couple.
    Personally, I enjoy my ruined orgasms. Obviously, that’s easier to do knowing I’ll never experience a full one…
    But we came to this sort of conclusion based on my behaviours following each type. A ruined orgasm seems in my case to have no detrimental effects on my motivation or desire towards my wife.
    I enjoy watching my wife as she goes to work. I enjoy watching her perfect her technique. I like that she’ll give me a blowjob to ruin after I’ve been inside her. I enjoy seeing her pleasure when’s he achieves it. Without them, I imagine my desire for chastity would soon wane. Total denial is not really my aim.

    She counts them as a release.

    Like with anything however, a few too many and they do start to take their toll. Too much of a good thing and all that.
     
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    i am only excused from punishment when it happens while i sleep. Other than that if i spill her seed i am punished.
     
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    Perhaps what I've had was just leaky edging. My wife has done it several times until there was a mess and I was nearly empty but I still felt ready to go.

    It didnt feel like a complete orgasm but it felt better than just edging alone.
     
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    Phew, lucky you. K/h wife skill it seems.....
     
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    yeah, it’s weird when she finally lets you orgasam and nothing comes out :)
     
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    Agreed its what ever works for us.

    But were learning from others trials and errors before we deterine what works best for others

    There hs a reason why people keep to a particular release schedule as if aan gets it when ever he wants is her really in chastiity? If he never gets it is he happy.

    Just like work out routines. They wont provide the same results for everyone but at last you have something to start from.

    So too many ruined orgasm is just as bad as too many orgasms?
     
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    I think what’s important, as you touched on (when ever he wants is her really in chastiity? If he never gets it is he happy. ), is the feeling of denial.
    To some that may be one week. To others that might be a month etc.

    If I had a ruin a week I’d be like ‘well she’s making this very easy’, and then chastity wouldn’t really have any meaning (to me)
     
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    You are using some terms i can isento communicate what I mean.

    "Sefretnto a happy marriage " ( pne of many formulas, recommends no more than one orgasm a month( doesnt indicate ruined or not) this formula for her provided the proper balance of horninesss, satisfaction fkr both KH and caged and minimal "sub drop off"

    What ever the formula is for each couple it would seem that is what they are trying to achieve.

    My wife isnt dominant (yet perhaps) so sub drop off isnt a concern yet. But we are still just dabbling
     
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    Ruined orgasms count, and that is why they are not allowed.
     
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    Ouch. Tight schedule she has you on
     
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    Early on my KH decided to increase time (actually doubled each time starting at 2 days) before full orgasm to see what she preferred.

    After a while she/we determined my "full recovery" time was 6 weeks, meaning she wants at least 6 more weeks of recovered me. I wasnt happy it took so long but have to agreeshe was right.

    As time has gone on we have determined a ruined orgasm really is "orgam light" - 2 or 3 in a row will, usually, reset me almost as much as a full O.

    Now they are all ruined by some method or another. She has great fun experimenting and I am starting to love the craving more than the meal...
     
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    Cumming is mandatory for me by my wife
     
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    Well my wife and I wrote a contract in the beginning of our FLR. We went through many stereotypes and always were asked many things like.
    Complete FLR, money, Lifestyle and so on. Some people think that a FLR has to be Cuckolding.
    What we found out is that, it isnt stable.
    Some days she wants to make me cum. Some days she denies me for weeks. Some days she wants to only pleasure me by fisting or pegging.
    In our original contrac twe wrote one orgasm per month and three times edging. If I remember right we found this advice somewhere in a homepage.

    Reality now is usually no orgasm for me about several weeks or months. Edging usually not. If... Only if she has lust for it.

    So things changed. And surely will in the future.
     
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    Good info exactly what I was thinking 2 or 3 in a row simultaneoiusly or in some time span?

    Doubling? That means the sweet spot may been at 3.5 weeks! You may be nissing out in a few Os

    I think after we do our intital period( trying again after giving up) well try the doubling method and count 2 or 3 ruined as one.

    Our results may vary lol
     
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    Interesting How often do you give her orgasms?
     
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