Discussion of chastity device with pa piercing and uncircumcised foreskin

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    ** This is a new discussion but related with Which Lori's device for PA?

    I have CB3000 , Neosteel Shemale Sport Chastity Belt and Chinese style chastity belt. Although these devices are great in particular domains, they cannot fulfill my expectation. Maybe the measurement is not correct, but this is not the main concern in this discussion.

    My expectation of chastity belt is
    1) Can be daily wear, 24/7.
    2) Maturate and orgasm are denied.
    3) Is not noticeable when wearing sim-fit trouser.
    4) Mostly secure
    5) Driving a car is allowed.

    To archive my expectation, i get pa piercing and planing to buy a new chastity device with pa supported.

    i do briefly research in this website and internet, Lori's Device #5 / #5A maybe the choices. But I have some question about this device

    A) How weight is it? Ans: 0.38 kg
    B) Is it suitable for uncircumcised men? Ans: Is NOT recommend. ( the weight of #5a is depend on the length of cage)

    **Thank you for ineverknew, HZX and pilfered reply above questions

    Refer to question A) How weight is it? Ans: 0.38 kg
    0.38 kg is heavy , especially small gauge. Someone said that at least 4 gauge is better. I am afraid it is too big for my penis. My target size is 8 gauge.

    Refer to question B) Is it suitable for uncircumcised men? Ans: Is NOT recommend.
    Circumcised is not popular in my country and i am uncircumcised.


    According to the answer of question A & B, Lori's Device #5 / #5A may not suitable for my situation.

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    I do another research in internet about "pa piercing chastity". One of the results in Looker 03.

    Looker 03 is not a ringless device

    My question is
    1) Is it noticeable when wearing trouser?
    In my experience, CB3000 cage size is too big for me and it is noticeable when wearing sim-fit trouser.
    Nightmare of erection in the morning is not my main concern because it is the punishment of unauthorized erection.
    2) How weight is it?

    Furthermore, i prefer ringless devices because
    1) It is easier to shave the pubic hair
    2) The ring is always scratch my thighs
    ** The crotch shield of my neosteel also scratch my tights too in every foot step.

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    I am not sure that which devices is suitable for me right now.

    Any suggestion and experience about this topic?

    Thank you for your help and reply.
     
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    Hey there!

    Brilliant work doing your research @dynamic!!!

    I have read somewhere here that a Kali's Teeth Bracelet can be an alternative to ringless devices. This type of device 'could' be an alternative for you!!!

    However, whilst this would certainly punish an erection, it would not cover the glans. You would be able to stimulate yourself, but then you'd get an erection and the teeth would bite!!!

    I guess the question would be how much pain could you bear if you really wanted to cum....?! You could certainly masturbate, but for how long....?

    There are a few people with KTBs here..... Maybe you will get some feedback there....

    Also, Steelworxx have a new product called the Securo Cage.... It is an enclosed ringless device but I'm unsure if it will work with a foreskin...

    @Argentus posted about possibly getting one here: http://www.chastitymansion.com/foru...elds-the-most-pleasant-walk.9366/#post-108666

    I think he also has a KTB too!!!

    I have always used ringed devices so, even though I am uncircumcised, I can't offer any other advice to suit your requirements!

    Hope this helps a bit!

    With the absolute kindest regards.

    J.
     
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    Thank you for I LOVE my Choice! reply

    There is only one Securo Cage 1 review by Teaden » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:52 am in another website "link"

    According Teaden's post,
    1) He is not circumcised.
    2) PA size is unknown.
    And no furthermore information.

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    PeniCap is another device similar with lori's #5 but requirement is
    1) circumcised foreskin
    2) Prince Albert Piercing of 5mm (4 or 5 G)

    It is not suitable for me.
     
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    I have always wondered what impact a Lori's device would have on a foreskin....

    The locking pin would basically keep the bottom of the foreskin from coming forward.

    So what would happen to the rest of the skin....?

    Also, I can only speculate as I've never worn a ringless device, but my impression of them is they have to be tight against the shaft to work.... Or else all the weight is borne by the piercing... Ouch!!!

    With foreskins, I wonder if edema would become a problem with such a style of device...? The constant pressure could well create swelling....

    Are you dead set against a ringed device....? I would think you would have many more options if you could find one that suited.....?

    With the absolute kindest regards.

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    This is a very important point which i do not think about it !

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    I am not dead set against a ringed device.

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    I think Kali's Teeth Bracelet is a punishment device and it is not for long term wearing.
     
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    It's a difficult balancing act isn't it?!!!

    But I love your approach.... identify what you need and look for something that suits you!!!

    I'm getting a new device in the next few weeks that will be secured via my PA piercing.... I'll be sure to let you know how it works out with the foreskin!!!
     
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    Hey there. Somebody's been reading my porridge! I did have a "Mike's Spikes" KTB, but it was so heavy, and me being a grower, it liked to slide off when I was smaller (MUCH more painful than getting an erection in one). Waaaaay too heavy. It's a shame.

    As for PA devices, I'm still wearing my PA-5000 when Princess decides she wants it on me, but after a few days it does rub, so we have to take breaks. The solution is usually that she takes it off before I go to work, and it goes back on as soon as I get home and shower. I haven't gotten my steelworxx device, yet. I love the idea of the urethral tube, but, after talking with Dietmar, the gent that runs steelworxx, I'm wary of trying to size it. I'll probably go with the securo cage 1, or just the tube jacket. The "tube jacket" is very similar to the PA-5000, but it doesn't have the ventilation ridges, and those are what rub. It doesn't help that when I grow, I am thicker than average. I think that's the problem, so will be getting a slightly larger device when I do order from steelworxx.

    Of course, as can be seen from my photo, I am circumcised, so I can't give any advice in that respect.
     
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    Hahaha @Argentus!!! I hoped that tag would get you to post!!! :D

    Thanks for chipping in mate!

    With the absolute kindest regards.

    J.
     
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    Tell me why, J. I came here for a reason. I'm happy to have reasons to post.
     
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    Hey @Argentus!

    I'll try and be brief as I don't want to hijack the thread!

    OK... here's my thought process:
    Looking for non-base ring alternatives-came up with KTB
    Did a search on the forum-came up with you and your (excellent!!) porridge!
    Tagged you as I have never had a KTB and hoped that you could give us both your personal experiences!

    That's it!

    With the absolute kindest regards.

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    @dynamic and @I LOVE my Choice!

    When I was researching myself I also emailed steelworks extreme as well.

    The reply I got was. ...



    Jello Philep

    The Prince's Vessel is very cool design, however it seems as though I am having a much greater success with The Schandmaske and Prince's collar, for people who are looking of a shaft based cage with minimal appeal. The Vessel has a starting price of close to $3K, while the Schandmaske starts at $2K, followed by the Prince's collar at $1500.00CDN.

    ... But to me it's way too much. ...

    I found this on eBay and yes its a ball trap device but I thought it was interesting. ..

    IMG_2014100739722.jpg

    I have the same issues and feel that otherwise otherwise a full belt will be my only option. The one that @slave stroppy has developed may be an option as I am sure he can change the tube to be pa friendly? !?

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    Hey there!

    @philfred I've seen that device before and been interested!!! But, there is no hood to it. So I was thinking... the device is trapped around the balls, so when a hardon occurs where does it go....? In my mind, all the pressure would be borne directly on the piercing as the head tried to extend away from the device.... and the device can't move along with the erection :eek:

    I would not like to imagine the consequences of THAT!!! :confused:

    Good call with the Steelwerks extreme.... I tend to overlook them because of the serious prices involved.....

    With the absolute kindest regards.

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    yeah i agree, anything that puts stress on the peircing will hurt, eventually. I also agree steewerks prices are too high, i mean really? Who has $2K for a device? lol
     
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    $2K for a device !! It is very expensive device. I cannot afford it.
     
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    But that's Canadian dollars though!!! ;)
     
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    @dynamic - I am with you about the price - it's just way too much money - I think the saying is a fool and his money are soon parted...;-)

    We need some one with a creative mind maybe @MaleChastityNow - can help.....

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    I sell the MouseTrap, which is a stainless steel tube-only device that's similar to the PA-5000. Unfortunately, I don't have any feedback from uncircumcised men who have worn the device, so I don't know how well or poorly it will work for an uncircumcised man.

    Depending upon tube size and length, the MouseTrap weighs approximately 3 to 3-1/2 ounces, so it's almost 1/3 the weight of a Lori's #5.

    The weight of the MouseTrap is indeed carried by the PA pin/hook when the person wearing it is flaccid. But when you become aroused and expand into to the tube both the tube and the PA hook carry the weight, and distribute it more evenly.

    I once read somewhere about uncircumcised Roman slaves being pierced through the foreskin only, but I don't have any idea whether this type of piercing would have future complications. If pierced vertically through the foreskin only, then the piercing would be much like an apadravya...but would this work as a solution for anchoring the penis inside a tube? I'm circumcised, and so have no way to experiment with this idea...

    My version of the KTB is extremely light, and it weighs approximately 1-1/2 ounces. There are actually people who do wear it for long periods of time, but as mentioned in a thread above, the glans is not covered by a KTB...

    MouseTrap
    http://malechastitynow.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=75&product_id=60

    KTB
    http://malechastitynow.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=75&product_id=55
     
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    @I LOVE my Choice, the design in that prototype actually began as an idea for a "tube-only" PA device, and it had been sitting on my workbench for a couple years. It was only recently that I noticed it sitting there, and decided to do something with it. Up until then only the front portion of the device existed. The second cage ring was not previously attached to the device, and neither was the base ring. There was something that I didn't like about the device as a tube-only design, but can't recall exactly what it was...
     
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    I can only guess at the flaws of ringless devices as I've never had one.... But I'd think they would have to be sized utterly precisely or else one would have a load of steel hanging off your piercing.... Ouch! :eek:

    Those who have them set up right seem to love them!!!

    With the absolute kindest regards.

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    It's important to make them as light as possible (or alternatively, wear very tight underwear!) :)
     
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    Check this out...there's a guy on another forum who posted a pic this morning of his double foreskin piercing.

    My thought was to make a single piercing, vertically, through the foreskin...this fellow went a step farther however!...

    10.14.14 - LM - curveguy - foreskin piercing.jpg
     
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    @MaleChastityNow could you make a locking princes wand? I have seen them but they are:

    A) include a ball ring
    b) big padlock
    c) stupidly expensive

    I was thinking something that is long enough and thick enough that you know it's there but locked to stop it being removed?
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    I don't find anything aesthetically pleasing about the big padlock on the locking PA wands currently available. To me they're just plain ugly. I experimented once with making a locking curved barbell for a PA piercing, but the experiment failed. I tried using a medium security screw to lock a ball onto the barbell. The problem was you could unscrew the medium security screw by hand, simply by gripping the ball firmly and pulling outward on it while simultaneously twisting the ball. For a PA Wand, it'd be nice to see (find?) a simple solution that would lock the pin to the wand while remaining pleasing to the eye. I just haven't visualized yet what that is...
     
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    @MaleChastityNow I was thinking about your new cage design. Do you think the fixing could be changed to make it more foreskin friendly. I was thinking like a ring fixed to the front so that there is space below it for the foreskin to sit? Hope that makes sense.
    Regards
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