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Designing a chastity device from a vanilla female perspective

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    #1 Mistress Lucy, Sep 6, 2017
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    I was thinking about what could make male chastity more mainstream...

    If you were to tell most women they could control sexual demands of men, and limit their capacity for masturbating and cheating, I think most would jump at it.

    But then the first thing they would see is the devices...

    I think the look of the devices might put a lot of women off instantly, unless they are into BDSM.

    When I first saw chastity devices I thought they looked like something you see in a hospital, and first impressions were they looked to me like they would smell. Both are quite off putting.

    I would guess all male chastity devices were designed by men who are into BDSM in some way.

    Maybe someone should design one from a womans point of view, the penis could be totally hidden and a flap lifted for urinating.

    The full metal belts look too uncomfortable and not practical for every day use. There must be an alternative if people think outside the box and come at it from a different angle ...
     
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    Here we go, The future of male chastity!

    All it needs now is for someone to work out the mechanics under the shell.

    A much more attractive proposition from the female point of view :)


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  3. Yes, that's exactly what my wife said. They where all too male looking which surprised her given its a fairly standard intention is to have a female key holder!
     
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    Designed by males for the sexual kinks of males. No wonder people have trouble getting their wives interested.
     
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    Or this one to a lesser degree ....

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  6. Well, the first one looks like a jock strap. Hardly secure. As for a device that just hides the penis totally and has a flap just for peeing, well that would still be ineffective and smelly as well. There are certain devices, like the custom Evotions device that my guy wears, that doesn’t look as imposing to me. You can choose all sorts of nice colors, and he has no access to his penis, especially since I got him pierced. I know many locked men will tell you that they would never cheat a device, but we all know that they indeed can pull out of the back of it, masturbate, and stuff it back in with the key holder being none the wiser. That’s why I like him pierced...prevents pull out and unauthorized access plus the piercing feels good to me on the rare occasion I let him out for traditional intercourse. As for the smell, as long as the locked guy takes good care of his keyholders property, it isn’t an issue. My guy cleans very well with a q-tip and soap while in the shower and is able to rinse thoroughly too. After his shower, he puts the blow dryer on cool, blow dries everything and even uses a q tip to move the skin folds of the penis to ensure a complete drying. After all that he coats a q tip with baby powder and works it into the areas covered by the cage and to prevent moisture from getting trapped, which is part of what causes the smell. I have taken him out after a full day and his penis smelled fine, just the normal musty smell after showering in the morning and working during the day will create. Oh, and after he pees, he dabs with toilet paper and uses a qtip to get anything he may have missed. Overall a very good system. All in all, a device really doesn’t need to look female friendly, after all it is a thing that is wrapped around a penis and the penis is the mascot of masculinity, Lol!
     
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  7. P.S. I do agree that it would be awesome for it to become mainstream. A majority of women are vanilla so I can see where it might be hard for them wrap their minds around something so intimidating as male chastity. I think it would be such a cool idea for vanilla in everyday life women, like many of us here, to advocate to “regular” women about the benefits of male chastity. I know I am easy to talk to and passionate about the things I love, so would be all for educating vanilla women:)
     
  8. For a long time I have wished that male chastity was main stream. But I don't think the look of the device do not make a difference because keyholders can choose not to see it, a the male and still to ware it.
    I think that wags must be able to see the benefits of male chastity if used in there own relationships and they must be able to connect with the person who's telling them that it has changed there own partner into a perfect boyfriend.or husband.
    but I don't think that wags don't know how much men think of and think of having sex with.
     
  9. Too right Mistress
     
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    The look of device does matter, the first thing the woman will say is "how does it work?", then she will want to see the device. If she's put off straight away then that's the end of it.
     
  11. While that may be accurate, a truly open minded woman would stick around to see what it is, how it works, etc. As a fellow woman, you know we are all naturally curious/nosy about things we sometimes don’t understand. I know that even if I were vanilla, due to my natural curiosity, I would not immediately be put off enough to flee the scene so to speak, but would ask questions instead to try and gain understanding.
     
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    Yes, but the point is to attract women who are not open minded :) Seeing the usuall devices they will just think "That's a BDSM thing to turn him on", then walk away.
     
  13. Also, in my opinion, I think only a truly closed-minded, vanilla and prudish woman would stop dead in her tracks and flee. I really believe that most normal women would want to know how it works and what it is for at the very least. The problem is that many men do present it as a kink. Maybe if the men were more gentle and introduced it in a way that benefits their girl, than many more vanilla women would open up to the idea and then take it from there.
     
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  14. I can see where it would look like something straight from a BDSM catalogue, but male chastity is just a small outcrop various kinks and fetishes. A male can still easily be into chastity but not into BDSM. A female friendly Chastity Device website might be good for starters. Here’s a good example: www.keptforher.com. It presents male chastity in a female friendly, non-imposing manner.
     
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    Imagine if someone was making a device to stop a child or dog touching it's penis, they wouldn't be cold chrome cages or tubes.
     
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  16. That is true; however, for it to look “friendly” would also mean that it would be ineffective because let’s face it, without a secure device, meaning some sort of metal or strong plastic, males will always find ways to circumvent it. You can’t put a male into something made of cloth or vinyl or what have you and think that they won’t find a way to escape because they surely will.
     
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    What I meant was a secure plastic device could be inside the jockstrap, all built in. The jockstrap part could be flipped up for urinating. So when the male first shows his wife all girlfriend all she will see is the jock strap. She doesn't need to know the mechanics or not, unless she's interested. Maybe she would become more interested in the mechanics as time goes on, but her first impression would be of something that basically looks like a jockstrap.
     
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  18. Lol, you could have just explained that same thing in the first place. That makes more sense. The device would still need to be secure though. A jock strap would not be secure. I think a better idea would to just have the locked male wear his cage and keep it covered, but then that's what underwear is for. It would be very hard to develop an actual vanilla-looking, female friendly device. Thing i can think of that would make it less BDSM-looking is to either have it metal, but coated in maybe pink or some other stereotypical female color or have it plastic, again, in some sort of female friendly color. I mean it is a device which secures the penis, which is the most masculine identifiable part of the human body. I think the better course of action to make male chastity more vanilla female friendly, is through education provided by non-intimidating females who participate in this lifestyle. I have told 2 or 3 of my very vanilla friends and they were all intrigued by the idea.
     
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  19. We have struggled to find the combination of neat, comfortable, and secure for many years and I agree wholly that almost all unmodified cages allows the male to extract from the rear which is equally frustrating for the sub as temptation after long periods of chastity will break most eventually leading them to succumb to evasion for relief.
    I too was guilty of that.
    Which is why we have investigated more and more practical ways to stop the sub cheating the device.
    I will agree that extraction is almost impossible to make 100% without a piercing however after a lot of trial and error what we have found is that stopping the sub getting back in his cage is possible. What is required is a design that is not easy to slip into and severely restricts the access at the rear to impede re insertion.
    Our solution may not be for everyone as it is quite small and also employs a urethral insert and a modified base ring with rear shield.
    The problem appears to be that the male can when small push his cage forwards allowing significant access to the rear to slip out his tiny penis. However if you employ a urethral insert and a shield at the rear that provides sufficient obstruction, the male cannot get his penis bent and re inserted back onto the insert.
    I have tried and cannot get back into my cage which now makes the whole chastity experience real. If I do extract I have to walk around with my cage attached just to my testicles and it hurts a lot so I don't even try anymore. I accept my chastity and when I get frustrated I know that I cannot defeat the device so just succumb to anal stimulation which I am allowed.
    My wife also does not like the cage visible when we are out so size is important to her however so is my comfort as comfort means less damage and a longer chastity lock up period.

    So far the mixture of a small cage / urethral insert / rear adapted shield means my chastity is as real as we can possibly make it.

    For Xmas I am getting a Looker 1 which is a higher quality and cleaner more open version of the small cage I currently wear. The fact that the Looker 1 has an open cage design means that showering and cleaning are so much easier becasue the penis is accessible for cleaning from the sides and front meaning no smells and no need for any special q tips etc.. just a soapy wash will clean the exposed penis that is threaded onto its urethral insert.

    I am sure mainstream chastity will never be common its just to freaky for most to contemplate. I must admit that also having submissive and CD tendencies has played a big part in my acceptance of being kept in chastity and the fact I CD. Bottom line is it works for us both, I like to be controlled and kept in chastity while allowed to indulge in a CD fantasy with no access to masturbate which makes the whole chastity experience much more intense and my wife likes the fact I am not masturbating and that I am under her control by not pestering her for sex but when released I am able to perform to the best of my ability by not having released myself day in and day out as most men do.

    p.s I need Viagra to perform well ;-) as do many others I guess who are over 45

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  20. One idea for male chastity to go main stream is for hen nights.that the husband to be ware it to show how much he want to get married(this would be a bit of fun but would get the point across).maybe even a belt that was a click lock and disposable.
     
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  21. I don't think most guys in chastity want to walk around smelling like day old urine lol. We do take care of ourselves :D
     
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    Piercings and urethral insertions are going to put the vanilla woman off immediately. They make me feel ill.

    I think males need to be educated on this.
     
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    Pink devices exist already, but they have hairy balls and bits of penis sticking out, they are not a pretty sight, and as I said, my first impression was they look like they smell. If I got that impression then some others probably have as well.

    If everything is hidden away then there is nothing to put anyone off.
     
  24. The problem is as soon as something is made to cover up everything another issue takes over. Sweating. That area sweats a lot anyway, so instead of smelling of urine It all starts to smell funky instead. Then there is the fact that our testicles are outside our bodies for the important issue of temperature regulation. Not the best design and for me it doesn't point to anything approaching intelligence. If it is all covered up then we get overheated testicles.

    One of the reasons my Wife likes my Holy Trainer is that it doesn't look like the steel devices. It is much more unintrusive. She even chose the opaque black device as it would mean she wouldn't have to look at my penis all squished up inside. She is thinking of repackaging me in something like a Looker 2 steel device in the future but she has nearly had two years to get used to this chastity thing, so the shock of what it will look like won't be as bad.
     
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    Maybe this could just be a beginners device, an introductory device to get women interested, then people could move on to the traditional types later.
     
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