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    CHINESE CORONAVIRUS “VACCINE” CONTAINS A NASTY SURPRISE

    A Canadian Pre-Print Study Finds Billions of Copies of Residual DNA in a Single Dose of Chinese Coronavirus mRNA “Vaccine.
    The October 17th. preprint study up for peer review finds billions of residual DNA fragments in the Chinese Coronavirus mRNA “vaccine” vials.

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    The lead author of the study, molecular virologist Dr. David Speicher, who has a doctorate in virology, told The Epoch Times that their study is "the largest study" on residual DNA in Chinese Coronavirus vaccines to date.

    "In our study, we measured DNA copies of spike, ori (origin of replication), and SV40 enhancer genes," he told The Epoch Times. "The loads of SV40 enhancer-promoter, ori, and virus spike in Pfizer are up to 186 billion copies per dose."

    The issue: The final mRNA vaccines should only include RNA and not residual DNA instructions for spike production.

    Conclusion: “These data demonstrate the presence of billions to hundreds of billions of DNA molecules per dose in these vaccines. Using fluorometry, all vaccines exceed the guidelines for residual DNA set by FDA and WHO of 10 ng/dose by 188 – 509-fold.”

    YUMMY-YUMMY ... Big Pharma Is Putting STRANGE STUFF In Your Tummy
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    https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/billions-of-copies-of-dna-impurities-and-contaminants-in-a-single-dose-of-covid-19-mrna-vaccine-preprint-5515324?
     
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    The truth is there, but only if you look. ALL main stream media in the US, and pretty much all of the West, is merely a mouth piece for their government propaganda machine. You need to look at alternative media. You also need to use non censored search engines, and the fact that most people still use Google is mindboggling to me. And most of all , you need to use all of your cognitive thinking powers, because there is no such thing as a 100 % reliable source. If you are not prepared to keep an open mind , and have NO sacred cows ( subjects you hold dear and will never change your mind about) , then you have no chance of ever becoming awake and aware.

    I am baffled that you keep commenting on Reiner Fuellmich, but by your own admission, don't know why he has been targeted, nor done any research to find out. Why am I supposed to do your research for you? the information is not hard to find. Like any criminals, what the people behind the plandemic fear most is the public finding out and punishment being meted out to them. No one has done more to work towards that day of reckoning for the perpetrators of the plandemic than Fuellmich. It's that simple. His initiation of a literal Nurenberg Trial (so named) to bring to justice or all of the guilty parties ie. Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, Fauci, Walenenski, Ralph Baric, and many more is monumental. It is the biggest and most sophisticate attempt anywhere in the world. And while I obviously cannot be certain, the charges leveled against him are very likely as bogus as the charges leveled against all whistleblowers and successfully vocal opponents of the official narrative.
    As for Nordsrtream, how in the world can ANYONE provide proof positive of who did it, other than the perpetrators themselves. Please don't go there again. I have had the same tactic used on me by climate change cultists. All crimes can normally be solved by asking, and answering "cut bono?" Who benefits.? Russia? Hardly. Germany? Of course not, the #1 country harmed. The rest of Europe? of course not again. More expensive energy for all. The US? Well, now we are getting somewhere . LNG sales to Europe have soared, even though it is Way more expensive than Russian LNG. Plus now Germany has had their options to negotiate with Russia, drastically reduced, meaning they are forced to toe the line with US demands. The UK,? Well, yes here too. They weren't getting any gas from Nordstream, and they are pretty much 100 % alligned with US policy on Russia and the Ukraine.
    Finally, J-6 prisoners have been tortured detained without trial for 2 years. Totally against all US law. The allegory to Fueelmich is he can expect the same treatment, more or less. Anyone who is not blind can see the West has a 2 tier justice system. The Just Us system for those in charge, and the "the law is what we say it is " system for everyone else.
    If you chose to continue any discussion about this, please do your research first. Otherwise, this is a waste of both of our time. Thank you.
     
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    HMMM ... I WONDER WHAT IS CAUSING THIS?
    Singapore and Qatar had some of the highest jab rates in the world and relied on Moderna and Pfizer mRNA.

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    A normal person would look at this and ask the obvious question: why are so many people dying?

    I mean, an excess mortality of just 5% would be of grave concern. 37% is off the charts catastrophic. It is a mass die off unless it halts.

    What is even more stunning is the complete and total silence on the matter.


     
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    Oh I understand all of what say and I also do understand your way of thinking.
    I have thought some of your thoughts also some years ago.

    But just saying:
    "Follow the money" is not a good research or way to build up an argument for something.
    Or even this Nürnberg trial 2.0 BS. This is just for making money.

    Many of those so called saviors or uncoverers just make big money with it.

    You have them in US, we have them here in Germany. They exist everywhere in the world. Since ever. In medieval ages they killed thise people for ripping off money from others. Nowadays they are superheroes.

    And HERE you can really use your tactic of following the money.
    Füllmich, like Heiko Schrang, Hagen Grell and others earn much money by spreading their theories.

    They always use the same mechanisms.
    They cant proove anything, they just claim.
    Telling that they have background information from a not traceable source.
    These sources are ALWAYS untraceable, or just show a small amount of traceable content. Sometimes a single study or a file somewhere. Someone sayd something here or there and bam conspiracy of the government.

    If they were right, what happens from time to time, they tell you: "look! I have always been right. Never trust the system."
    If they are wrong, they are talking their way out by just saying, that their so called source has been wrong. Or it will happen in another timespan and maybe then they go to point Nr. one.
    If they have luck the people will forget. If someone critisizes them, they ALWAYS say: " Look! They are attacking me and our group . They are trolling us, telling lies about me."

    I remember once that Heiko Schrang told in 2019 that some intelligence people he knew told him sonething big will happen in the next time. Not sure WHEN it was supposed to happen, but BIG. He told this million times before.
    Nothing happened, he always called the people to meditate for peace and harmony and told them if not now, then in some months this BIG thing will strike. And then corona came.
    And he stood there in his carismatic way:" Look! Here is the result of my predictions! I told you something is wrong. Told it since years "
    He just had luck after manymany times of mispredicting.

    But okay. Some people wantdd to believe Maybe he really got intelligence . Nobody will ever be able to prove the opposite.

    They are not interested in bringing out the truth or sacrifying their life. They just want to earn money. This is their job, like any others journalists job.

    If you critisize and question MSM you have to also critizise and question AM since you never know, who is lying again and wants to make the most money. . It isnt logic to believe ONE single source.

    This is what it makes so difficult to find out what is the truth. Because there is none. MSM and AM are only spreading things that bring them the most clicks and money.

    Then these storytellers ALWAYS have a person with intelligence background that wants to be a whistleblower and pass them infos, nobidy else has got.

    Another way of making people believe in their stories is producing fear amongst their followers.
    (I remember that there were rumors amongst people during the hurricane catastrophe of Catrina (maybe another storm) that the FEMA is killing people instead of helping them.
    Not sure if these millions of coffins in the desert have been used until now.)
    They always use the triggers of polluting food, water supply, medicaments, making people ill, to sell their evil big pharma medicaments. This is a really strong trigger, since the governmnet usually should care for their people and not harm them.

    Then they ALWAYS, since they dont have reliable sources, tell you to go out into the internet and check the information yourself. Strangly they seem to do the same in US and Germany. Even YOU did this.

    I gently asked you to do me the favor to give me information about your opinion and show me the sources or tell me where you got your information about Füllmich. And your answer is just stereotype.
    "Go out there and inform yourself."

    This is really a weak habit.
    I had some discussions here with her devinity L_U_C_Y and other guys here. And they mostly have been able to "prove" their thoughts and show, that they really informed themselves by searching for data, studies ( mostly not peer reviewed) or videos ( like this british doctor, who brings out facts and datas about covid and the vaccination and so on.
    I really appreciate this and totally respect their opinions, even if they have different standards in what is needed to make me believe a theory.
    But I think this is usual. Havong dofferemt opinions amd mot to believe everything that is told to you by person XYZ.
    But honestly just writing:" Inform yourself" and just blowing out the same hollow phrases like all those strange people ( I have been on a birthday party of a friend of my wife. A guy there tried to tell me that the earth is completely hollow and that there are farms for cultivating children for adrenocrome harvesting) that answer always the same stereotype things like:
    - If you dont believe in it you are dumb,
    - my opinion is the only truth, without any doubt
    - you are a sleep sheep,
    - you have to open your mind to awake and become independend
    - Start using your brain power,
    - search the truth for your own, or are you to dumb? "

    is just a certain boring amount of hot air. Nothing less.

    Well some people get easily attracted by such phrases and show signs of the Dunning Krüger Effekt ( I dont exclude me there partially.)
     
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    Agreed! Let us never forget.
     
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    Can anyone (Lucy? Fit?) help me find the post with the screen prints of Webster changing the definition of vaccine?

    Tonight I am having dinner with a retired marine corp colonel who pushed the vaccine onto his marines. He denies the change in the definition. If I can show him the two screen shots that Lucy posted a year or two ago it would be immeasurably helpful.

    I can't seem to find it on the internet. And I know it's on our Way Back Machine here.

    I appreciate anyone's help.
     
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    I found it. On the second page of this glorious thread. Thank you all.
     
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    #6286 Fit To Be Tied, Nov 17, 2023
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    The U.S. Army Is Now Begging Unvaccinated Soldiers To Return

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    *** AND ***

    US Army Removes Chinese Coronavirus Vaccine Requirement for Recruits

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    A little late?





     
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    US Childhood Immunization Schedule.

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    By the very nature of toxins introduced, this should raise alarms.
    Add that some of the diseases (chicken pox especially) aren't generally deadly, we've hit the point where "cure is worse than the disease."
     
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    And NO ONE can predict or study what all of the interactions are of all these shots. Once you take, say, two or three medications, what's happening in your body can be anyone's guess.
     
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    I can't tell you how many people I know that are dying these days. Age is certainly part of it, but the acceleration has been dizzying.
     
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    Major Oxford-Backed Study Reveals Strict Chinese Coronavirus Lockdowns NO MORE EFFECTIVE Than Sweden’s Open-Economy Approach During Plandemic
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    A major study backed by Oxford University has suggested that strict Chinese Coronavirus lockdowns were no more effective at reducing infections than the Swedish-style softer approach, which allowed more personal freedom and recommended rather than mandated behaviors aimed at reducing the transmission of the virus.

    This conclusion challenges the tyrannical lockdowns adopted by many countries, including the US, during the Chinese Coronavirus plandemic.

    You’ll recall that while the US shut down all commerce for years and destroyed the economy, Sweden took a different approach to the Chinese Coronavirus plandemic on the first wave of the Chinese Coronavirus than most other countries and just allowed the China coronavirus to run its course. Instead of shutting down businesses, the government relied on voluntary measures and recommendations to slow the spread of the virus. These measures included social distancing, working from home, and avoiding gatherings of more than 50 people.

    The research, published in the prestigious journal Nature Human Behavior, challenges the widely held belief that stringent lockdowns are the most effective strategy to control the spread of the Chinese Coronavirus.

    See:
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-023-01747-x#Sec11

     
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    we will likely never even comprehend the staggering loss of life, commerce and opportunities due to this fiasco.

    Worst mistake in human history.
     
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    On The Horizon: mRNA On Steroids - The Deadliest Vaccine Brew Yet
    If you thought mRNA injections were the craziest thing the vaccine industry has cooked up, you haven't seen the half of it yet. This new shit is like mRNA, but on steroids, causing your cells to churn out replication-competent live viruses! What could possibly go wrong?

    • “Immunization DNA” or iDNA is a novel class of gene therapy “vaccines” that encodes for THE WHOLE VIRUS;
    • iDNA “vaccines” transcribe the full-length genomic RNA of the live-attenuated vaccine virus. The full-length viral RNA then initiates replication of live attenuated virus in the tissues of the “vaccine” recipient, supposedly resulting in an immune response;
    • The iDNA platform can be used to create vaccines in two different ways. You can either grow the iDNA in a culture to produce the vaccine in the conventional way, or you can inject the iDNA directly into the recipient and allow the body to produce the live attenuated virus internally;
    • The first human trials for an iDNA shot that codes for a live virus could begin as early as 2024; and
    • In early April 2023, microbiologist Kevin McKernan reported he’d discovered DNA fragments in the mRNA shots made by Pfizer and Moderna, raising concerns about the possibility of genomic integration, autoimmune diseases and cancer. McKernan now reports having found a dose relationship between the load of DNA contamination and serious adverse events.
    This is crazy shit: It’s like mRNA, but on steroids. Rather than instructing your cells to produce a small portion, the spike protein of a given virus, iDNA products instruct cells to produce the complete virus in its entirety. As described in U.S. Patent 8691563B2:

    The iDNA generates live attenuated vaccines in eukaryotic cells in vitro or in vivo for pathogenic RNA viruses ... When iDNA is injected into the vaccine recipient, RNA of live attenuated virus is generated by in vivo transcription in the recipient's tissues.

    This initiates production of progeny attenuated viruses in the tissues of the vaccine recipient, as well as elicitation of an effective immune response protecting against wild-type, non-attenuated virus."


    What could possibly go wrong?

    See:
    https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2023/November/PDF/idna-vaccines-pdf.pdf



     
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    Immunity from chicken pox after you get it is not life long. You needed to be exposed to it periodically to keep your immunity. With the advent of chicken pox vaccines, that population of kids with it no longer exists. Ergo its (much more deadly) cousin shingles evolved to be a real problem. Never was before the advent of the chicken pox vaccine. Got this from RFK Jr.
     
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    Longer COVID School Closures Linked To Youth Suicide Rates

    Researchers have found that longer Chinese Coronavirus school closures were associated with more emergency department youth suicidality visits.

    The report, published on JAMA Network Open on Nov. 10, was led by researchers from the University of Massachusetts Chan Medical School.

    "This cohort study found an association between longer school closures in the public health response to the COVID-19 pandemic and increases in youth suicidality," the authors wrote, adding that further investigation is needed so that "policy regarding school closures may better align with the mental health needs of youth."

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    UK Study: The More You Followed Draconian ‘Covid Restrictions’ the Worse Your Mental Health Is Faring Today
    Once again, the so-called ‘conspiracy theorists’, a.k.a. ‘people who did their own research’, are getting vindicated over the gullible, obedient face-diapered people who ‘trusted the science’ – unaware it was just propaganda – and entrusted crooked $ Big Pharma $ with their health and even their life, many times to tragic results.

    The ultra left-leaning rag, The Guardian, actually reported today:

    “Those who followed the restrictions most closely when the pandemic hit are the most likely to be suffering from stress, anxiety and depression, academics at Bangor University have found.

    […] However, people with ‘agentic’ personalities – who are more independent, more competitive and like to have control over their lives – were least likely to exhibit those behaviors.

    ‘The more individuals complied with health advice during lockdown, the worse their wellbeing post-lockdown’, concluded Dr Marley Willegers and colleagues.”

    The study looked at ‘how compliant with the rules’ 1,729 people in Wales were during the first UK-wide lockdown in March to September 2020. They cross-referenced this data with measurement of stress, anxiety and depression found among these same people.

    Something tells me we will all be better off if the Branch Covidian church of St. Fauchist finally come to their collective senses and the follow Jonestown example!

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