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    Zerohedge always has a good bullshit detector. The ugly truth that most don't want to acknowledge is that wealth (other than inherited) is created from goods/services which are in demand and not what fits in one groups world view. The world of sports is probably the best example of a free market economy at work. Teams do whatever it takes to win. They pay ridiculous amounts of money to whoever they can get to achieve this goal with no regard to their identity. As big as Colin Kaepernick has been when it comes to racial issues and such, no teams have put them on their roster because he can't help them win. Ownership groups and coaching staffs are more diverse than ever and they still won't put him on the field because they want to win. Even though they may agree on his stance about social issues, they are not willing to sacrifice their season and careers for their beliefs. Banks and corporations are willing to do this however because we will be there to bail them out with tax dollars. One of the most anti-democratic things that could happen. They get to control the flow of money and where it goes but we don't get to have a say on it even though though we alleviate their risk by holding them up.
     
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    Wealth creation gets distorted when you provide trillions of free money at the top of the food chain, for more than a decade.

    Companies that failed during the 2008 financial crisis are still around today, because the Federal Reserve provided them with free money, and many new companies, that never generated a profit during ten years of doing business, came into existance.

    Could sports teams have paid such high salaries without access to essentially free money?

    (Answer: We have a DEBT based econmy!)

    The end result, those at the bottom of the food chain always pay the highest price.

    Directly or indirectly, we are all addicted to this free money, and withdrawl is going to be a painful and unpleasance experience.

    The questions is, wheather the Federal Reserve Banks around the world give us more free herorine, or make us go cold turkey?

    We are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

    Covid basically mainlined herorine into us all.
     
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    Good posts Winston and Viper.

    I would only add that sports has an unusual economic effect that’s not commonly seen to this degree: economic rent. That is, you are not paying him merely to play. You are also paying him to play for YOU.
     
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    Ric Grenell, Former Director of National Intelligence and Ambassador to Germany, On The Lou Dobbs Show:

    Every Single Intelligence Agency Signed Off” on a Statement in April 2020 Declaring China Responsible for Chinese Coronavirus Pandemic – It Was a Cover-Up
    Former acting Director of National Intelligence and Ambassador Ric Grenell joined Lou Dobbs’ podcast recently to discuss the COVID-19 coverup.

    Grenell told Dobbs that every single intelligence agency signed off on a statement back on April 30th of 2020 declaring China was responsible for the Chinese Coronavirus pandemic. The intel agencies agreed that the virus originated in the Wuhan Virology Lab.

    Grenell goes on to say, “There was a cover-up.”

    According to Grenell:

    The Sec. of Energy recently came out with a statement that the Covid virus originated in the Wuhan laboratory, but we already knew that. Why make the statement now? The Intelligence Agencies including the Energy Department have known since 2020 but didn’t want it to get out because they had an election to manipulate. The Marxist Dems will continue the weaponization of government unless we fix the media. The sham J6 Select Committee permitted no dissenting voices while the national media pretends to be without bias but are totally partisan and un-American.”


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    See:
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...cy-has-known-the/id1594728054?i=1000603899481

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheGreatAmericaShow

     
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    Not just a cliche, but where is the outrage?
     
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    Dr. John Unplugged

    Russell -w- Dr. John

    About 20 minutes. A very good conversation:



    “... I believe we should absolutely stop the vaccine now ... absolutely stop the restriction measures now ...”

     
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    We need to Bail In those characters...
    One pile of dirt at a time...
     
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    Unfortunately, Grenell's comments in the podcast don't fully match what is said in the DNI press release.

    The press release does say the virus originated in China, but does not define the origin of the virus beyond that. It says, the "virus was not manmade or genetically modified."

    The media reports at the time used the DNI press release to discredit the lab leak theory.



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    That is such an interesting point that I never thought about. A sports team can't just put Tom Brady on the credit card, they have to live within a budget. We live off of debt and credit because there would be a revolt with mass populations storming the castles of the rich if we had to live with what our income bracket was. Most people can't afford basic living expenses now. Ironically greed from banks may be preventing an extreme form of socialism.
     
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    The wallstreetbets saga exposed what trading halts really mean...but I suppose it is easy to get away with it all when we allow elected officials to yell, "Look over there!!! It's a drag queen reading Dr. Seuss at the library!" Then we all start flinging slogans at each other, they get away with it all, and nothing changes.
     
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    I've posted information relevant to this video in the past. As of yet, I don't recall seeing documented proof, though our government agencies have demonstrated numerous times their willingness to circumvent US laws by doing things outside the US.

    I have said Fauci is "protected," which may explain his smugness (or fifty years of ass kissing and back stabbing), and members of our government are afraid of the Intelligence Community, as they know everyone's dirty laundry. It has already been proven the IC watches, well, everyone.

    https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1635453313377533952

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    @RobertKennedyJr
    tells
    @jimmy_dore
    that Dr. Anthony Fauci has been in charge of developing bioweapons for the Pentagon since 2002, and in 2014, three viruses escaped from US labs, so he moved his bioweapons research to the Wuhan lab:

    "They took the money that Cheney gave them [from the Patriot Act], $2.2 billion, and they funneled it through NIH, and it all went through Anthony Fauci. So beginning in 2002, Anthony Fauci got a 68% raise from the Pentagon for doing bioweapons development, and he got a raise of billions of dollars a year, and then he started doing all of this gain-of-function.

    In 2014, three of those bugs escaped in high-profile escapes from different labs in the US. Congress held hearings on it. Everybody was angry, and 300 top scientists sent letters to Obama saying you got to shut down Fauci because he is going to create a pandemic.

    So, Obama ordered a moratorium, and at that time, Fauci had eighteen different gain-of-function experiments he was doing around the US. He instead moved his stuff offshore to Wuhan, where he could do it out of sight of these 300 scientists and nosy White House officials who were trying to shut him down.

    And he continued to do it with the same people he was funding here, Ralph Baric and Peter Dazak, and they moved their operation to the Wuhan lab.""​

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    A web search for 2014 revealed this Reuters article,

    How to fix U.S. biosecurity leaks? Close some labs

    Which in part says:

    "In the wake of disclosures that top government labs mishandled anthrax, smallpox and avian flu, U.S. health authorities are considering the once unthinkable: cutting the burgeoning number of labs working with the planet’s most dangerous microbes.

    ...

    "According to a 2013 report by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, 415 labs had registered with the CDC or the USDA in 2004 to work with select agents. By 2010, the number had grown to 1,495, the GAO found.

    ...

    "A decade later, the country had spent $19 billion on biodefense research. But there has been no national assessment of how many such labs are needed for security, the GAO found.

    ...

    "According to a 2012 report by CDC scientists, there were 16 incidents of lost or escaped microbes from select-agent labs in 2004, meaning everything from misplaced samples to an infected researcher walking out the door harboring a virus. That rose to 128 in 2008 and 269 in 2010.

    ...

    "“At minimum, these labs should be in a remote, rural area,” said Klotz. “That way, if there is a mechanical failure and something gets out, there is much less risk of harm.” He and others say several high-security labs should be candidates for closing.

    "After years of litigation, Boston University received permission from city, state, and federal authorities this year to open a BSL-4 lab in the city’s densely populated South End, but critics consider it a prime example of a facility whose potential contribution to research is swamped by the risks of exposing a large urban area to an escaped pathogen...


    This article details some of the incidence:

    Lab incidents lead to safety crackdown at CDC

    "The lapses at the world-renowned infectious disease research agency are sure to raise questions about safety at other labs studying highly pathogenic agents, including university labs that are modifying influenza strains to make them more virulent. Frieden said that "whatever you think about" such so-called gain-of-function studies, "I think it's clearly the case that these incidents indicate that we need to really ensure that whatever work is done needs to be done safely and securely.""

    The above article mentions this article:

    Controversy simmers over GOF flu research in Wisconsin

    "Kawaoka's gain-of-function (GOF) research has made headlines before, including a 2012 study that generated an H5N1 virus with increased transmissibility in ferrets."

    ...

    "The Independent included comments from a university official in defense of Kawaoka's research. Rebecca Moritz, who oversees UW's work on select agents, told the newspaper that the aim of the H1N1 study was to identify changes that would render existing vaccines ineffective. The purpose was to "model the immune-pressure the virus is currently facing in our bodies to escape our defenses," she said. She also said the IBC found the containment procedures appropriate for the study."​


    Universities and labs are chasing billions of dollars in research grants, and if you stand in the way of the money, you will be pushed aside by everyone whose salary is funded by it, which includes a huge administrative bureaucracy.
     
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    I am in the process of wading through this lengthy article exploring the two possible origins of Covid-19; from an animal or a lab leak.

    For the most part it is in plain English, but with a technical slant at times.

    The author appears to be very knowledgeable on the subjects, being involved in published research on the subject. Based on his academic resume, he is far smarter than I am.

    The case for a lab origin of SARS-CoV-2
    I used to believe it was spillover, but now I believe SARS-CoV-2 came from a lab

    I've been reading it a little by little, and don't know when I will have finished it, as I am researching stuff he says.

    He challenges some of the early research done, and exposes problems.
     
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    Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.:
    The Esteemed Little Elf Has Been in Charge of Developing Bioweapons for Pentagon Since 2002

    Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. (a liberal Democrap) joined talk show host Jimmy Dore recently to discuss the US involvement with bioweapons programs and The Esteemed Little Elf’s funding of coronavirus gain-of-function research.

    Kennedy spoke about the bioweapons accident in the US in 2014 that resulted in a federal ban on gain-of-function research in the United States:

    They took the money that Cheney gave them [from the Patriot Act], $2.2 billion, and they funneled it through NIH, and it all went through Anthony Fauci.

    So beginning in 2002, Anthony Fauci got a 68% raise from the Pentagon for doing bioweapons development, and he got a raise of billions of dollars a year, and then he started doing all of this gain-of-function.

    In 2014, three of those bugs escaped in high-profile escapes from different labs in the US. Congress held hearings on it. Everybody was angry, and 300 top scientists sent letters to Obama saying you got to shut down Fauci because he is going to create a pandemic.

    So, Obama ordered a moratorium, and at that time, Fauci had eighteen different gain-of-function experiments he was doing around the US. He instead moved his stuff offshore to Wuhan, where he could do it out of sight of these 300 scientists and nosy White House officials who were trying to shut him down.

    And he continued to do it with the same people he was funding here, Ralph Baric and Peter Dazak, and they moved their operation to the Wuhan lab.”



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    Sadly, good for a laugh, but perhaps it is my twisted sense of humor:

    Bonfire of the Covid Vanities

    "I’ve collected a baker’s dozen of the slogans that have dogged us for the past three years, and explain why they deserve to be torched and thrown into an unmarked grave."​
     
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    Given the state of banking, as we see them create the "need" for CBDC, ...
    I don't know how to deal. How to transition.
    We were warned for over 80 years, and indirectly long before - even Greek and Norse myths had these mechanisms.
    Your link lays it out nicely, but is too narrow a focus. 5 banks done, 2 were Crypto friendly, the Fed is insolvent, there is a new disease (avian flu) and there are more VaXXXines coming, including one for poultry (isn't it interesting the timing? A new Avian Flu with a "60% Mortality rate!!1!!" and they JUST, HAPPEN, TO HAVE, a vaxxine for chickens now - made by a Pfizer spin-off.)

    The biggest mistake made in 1984 was that there were multiple totalitarian powers. The book even INDICATES this, as O'Brien entrapped Winston. Controlled opposition...
    So close to reality, But the Common Man (average at best, likely less than), has no awareness. Which is why the Covid Vanities occurred in the first place.
    We need a LOT of things to go in the dustbin of history, but short of being "one of them," and controlling the system, I don't know what to do.
    And I can't be "one of them." Not psychotic...
     
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    I wasn't going to bore you with a data update this week, but the CDC has made significant changes to their excess death estimates. As it pertains to "Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19."

    Periodic updates are normal, and some major updates are on a fixed schedule, rather than when they are first observed.

    There was a relatively small increase in the reported deaths for 2022, of 1,285. The number of deaths for other years are basically the same.

    There were significant changes to the number of excess deaths, on a yearly basis from 2017 through 2022.

    For 2020 through 2022, the estimated number of All Cause Excess Deaths was increased by 89,278.

    For 2020 through 2022, the estimated number of Non-Covid-19 Excess Deaths was increased by 44,259.

    For 2020 through 2022, the estimated number of Covid-19 Excess Deaths was increased by 45,019.

    This spreadsheet shows the changes between this and the last update of All Cause Deaths.

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    I wasn't going to upload these charts, but will go ahead and included them in this update. I have added trend lines to these two graphs. I drew them in, they aren't mathematically derived, and only show an approximation of the number of deaths we might expect.

    The slope, and as a result the number expected, varied depend on whether I started at 2014 or 2015. The difference between 2014/2015 and 2019 determined the slope of the line.

    The first chart is for All Cause Deaths, the second is for Non-Covid-19 Disease Deaths.

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    Human history repeats itself endlessly; the same type of people always seek power, and power always corrupts; or the desire to stay in power at all costs corrupts people.

    Politicians are beholden to the 0.1%; the ultra wealthy. Follow the political donations. How many millions did that crypto crook and SVB donate to politicans?

    The major difference, that just accured to me as I thought about your post, is this time around science prevailed over religions, which allowed the greatest technical changes in human history.

    The pyramids in Egyt demonstrate humans were intelligent 4,500 years ago, but the technology didn't prefail. This time around, we also discovered and exploited cheap energy. Without cheap energy, technology alone wouldn't have been enough. This cycle has been kept going by 50 years of money printing, beginning in 1973.

    We don't know how many people believe "The Propaganda," versus the number who don't want to be "Cancelled." They may not be able to drag you into the street, but they can cancel you. Welcome to the Salem Witch Trials 2.0.
     
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    This news article ties COVID-19 and 1984 together.

    CDC Bought Phone Data To Monitor Americans' Compliance With Lockdowns, Contracts Show

    Everyone is Watching, and They Know What You Did Last...

    Not only does Corporate America, and by extension the Government, know where you are at all times, if you use a cellphone, they even know how much toilet paper and how many feminine hygiene products you buy.

    We are simply one big data point, that is bought and sold. And you can't, easily, opt out.

    Even if you turn the location sharing off on your phone, they know where you are based on which cellphone tower is pinging your phone, 24/7.

    I reluctantly bought a smartphone because my bank has no local branches, after a move.

    I frequently leave it at home, or put it in airplane mode, but often forget to turn it back on. Yesterday an organization tried to contract me for emergency assistance, but I didn't get the message for several hours. Well, this is the same as it was before the internet and cell service.

    Are we sure technology is truly beneficial? They are saying social media is destroying our children; it is likely only part of the problem.

    Mentioned in the above article, from a decade ago:

    Unique in the Crowd: The privacy bounds of human mobility

    "We study fifteen months of human mobility data for one and a half million individuals and find that human mobility traces are highly unique. In fact, in a dataset where the location of an individual is specified hourly and with a spatial resolution equal to that given by the carrier's antennas, four spatio-temporal points are enough to uniquely identify 95% of the individuals."​

    I learned firsthand the accuracy of the cellphone tracking when I called 911 to report a possible forest fire. They knew exactly where I was after triangulating my position. And this was with a simple flip phone.
     
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    Confidential Pfi$er Documents Reveal Pharma Giant Had ‘Evidence’ Suggesting ‘Increased Risk of Myocarditis’ Following Chinese Coronavirus Vaccines in Early 2022

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    Project Veritas published confidential Pfizer documents today showing that the company was aware of the potential risk of myocarditis for individuals who received doses of their COVID-19 vaccine.

    The Pfizer documents reveal the Pharma giant had ‘evidence’ suggesting ‘increased risk of myocarditis’ following Covid-19 vaccines in early 2022.

    “There is evidence that suggests patients who receive a COVID-19 vaccine are at an increased risk of myocarditis,” Pfizer said according to the documents obtained by Project Veritas.

    “Onset was typically within several days after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (from Pfizer or Moderna), and cases have occurred more often after the second dose than the first dose.” the pharma giant admitted.

    More from Project Veritas:

    “The reasons for male predominance in myocarditis and pericarditis incidence post COVID-19 vaccination remain unknown.” [PAGE 28];

    • “The pattern of cases conform, as per the label, to a pattern of myocarditis cases occurring in majority of young males below 29 years of age within the first two weeks postvaccination…” [PAGE 19];

    • “Since April 2021, increased cases of myocarditis and pericarditis have been reported in the United States after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna), particularly in adolescents and young adults (CDC 2021).” [PAGE 18];

    • “Myocarditis events were defined as encounters with a billing or encounter diagnosis consistent with an ICD10-CM or SNOMED CT code for myocarditis which fell within two weeks of receiving dose 1, 2, or 3 of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine;” and

    • “Incidence rates of myocarditis were measured for each vaccine dose with denominator signifying the total number of patients receiving that dose and numerator signifying the total number of patients meeting the above criteria for an encounter for myocarditis following that dose.”

    Raise your hand if you are surprised. Next time you chant USA! USA!, ... consider what that really means:

    Unvaccinated Smart American

    See:
    https://www.projectveritas.com/news...er-documents-reveal-pharmaceutical-giant-had/

    https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1636488229909143552?
     
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