Covid-19 and Life

This will be fun. I look forward to hearing from you. Please be kind enough to show us your friend’s published works.

He IS an expert, right?

 

It is now official that more have died via “adverse events” associated with the shots than have died in WW2. (USA numbers.).

Safe. And effective.

 

None of these links are from Harvard. NIH.gov is a government website, for example. NYT stands for New York Times.

And is there a point you are trying to make?

 

This is excellent news. Thanks for sharing it.

How sad for those who weren’t able to successfully fight it. Let’s keep in mind, a private citizen can simply quit their job. A military member is property of the government. It’s a LOT harder to say no to them. You can go to jail for “quitting” the military.

 

Here are some more actual studies. All from Yale Medical (sic)

Imaputz.edu.gov
May.K.Nosense/NIH.gov
WattHappens/2moronic/Daft/Cretins.kook.edu.com

 

Is this showing your bias? I said all these links are from the harvard medical website, not that they WERE the Harvard medical site. These are the places other than Harvard that Harvard refers people to for more information.

 

So any right wing radicals here can find him to attack him?

 

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Unfortunately, Harvard and Yale and the other Ivy's are ultra-progressive institutions these days. I wonder what position they are going to take when it comes to politically charged medical advice??

 

Ah yes. Classic leftist. You answer a question with a question.

I don’t play that game.

 

Yep get it. Protecting your anonymous expert source.

I don’t think you are gonna last even as long as New York Slimes Boy.

 

Your more full of shit than a cess pit

 

So the "curve" was flattened.
Oh yea it was just an excuse to get us to give up freedom and see how many sheep would comply.
Now that they're scared and shown they'll quickly do as told the goal keeps moving.

To me seems like a tactic used many times to destroy freedom and gain power. But what do I know. I only study history not watch CNN and MSNBC

 

Here's a thought. Why does the UN have the "small arms treaty" and the US liberal left want to destroy the 2nd Amendment?

I suspect the answer is disarming citizens means we won't have any control of the government. The threat that citizens can exercise our right to remove them is something they want removed.

Then we are no longer citizens but rather subjects.
And the sheep are helping them by doing as their told and not thinking for themselves.

 

you are totally right

 

You left out, "OR ELSE."
And without the ability to tell people to go to hell, you have no freedom of speech.
And without the ability to ENFORCE that decision, you have no rights...

 

To play the devil's advocate, the initial lockdown likely did SLOW the initial spread of Covid-19. If you look at the charts I posted here and here. Look at the "Daily Trends in Number of Cases and Deaths" in the second post. Imagine if we had the initial death rate of early 2020 coupled with the later case rate of late 2020, or December 2021.

But once people came out of lockdown, the virus was able to spread more quickly.

Here I've combined this chart and a graph from the CDC. This is for 2020 only. The graph shows cases and weekly deaths per 100,000.



The above chart shows the initial wave before lockdowns and the wave coincident with people returning to work, and then when people started to be vaccinated, in December 2020.

We would have been in lockdown for a full year if we waited for the majority of US residents to become vaccinated before opening up. Imagine the economic and mental health damage that would have caused.

The following two charts show 2020-2021, cases, deaths, vaccinations.






Many people died before the vaccination was readily available.

The following two charts show the same information for 2020-2022. To keep the same vertical scale for the death rate per 100,000 I had to show the full time period of the virus.





Based on cases and deaths, understandably the casual observer may question the effectiveness of the vaccine against spread and death.

Some have suggested the virus has become less deadly, and this in part may explain why there were fewer deaths, compared to prior outbreaks, in December 2021. It may not all be attributable to the vaccine.


Source

When the virus mutated and became more contagious but less deadly an increased number of people contracted and died from the virus in 2021. Significantly more people died in 2021 than 2020, per the spreadsheets I posted last Sunday.

Did the vaccination prevent hospitalizations? During the December 2021 outbreak it likely did, as otherwise the spike in hospitalizations would have been significantly higher. It may be less effective now, at least the initial doses. Hospitalizations are starting to increase, relative to number of cases. Fewer people are getting boosters.






This is not a comparison of risk of vaccination versus non-vaccination. That depends on a lot of variables.


Human disease case fatality rates

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) 0.5-1%
Seasonal Influenza, Worldwide < 0.1–0.5%
1918 (Spanish) flu [2.5-9.7]%
Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 ("bird flu") ≈60%
Influenza A, typical pandemics < 0.1–0.5%
Hong Kong (1968–69) flu ≈0.1%
Asian (1956–58) flu ≈0.1%

Assuming the above figures are accurate, Covid 19 is deadlier than most other influenza viruses.

Some Commentary:

Death was once much more common in Western society, and as a result a more common experience for the individual. Now it is treated in of itself as a disease or abnormality, even though we will all experience it. How often do we say someone "died of old age," versus attributing it to a specific disease? Remove disease and eliminate death, seems to be the suggestion. The medical establishment wants us to believe we can live forever; simply take a few pills and have a few body parts replaced. People appear to be afraid of death, the unknown. This may explain in part our social response to Covid 19.

A case in point, a doctor mentioned in a video posted here recently was surprised, if not shocked, that his 73 year old father died, soon after receiving a Covid immunization. Regardless of outward appearance, and even medical tests, should we be surprised when a 73 year old man dies?

"Life expectancy at birth for women in the United States dropped 0.8 years from 79.9 years in 2020 to 79.1 in 2021, while life expectancy for men dropped one full year, from 74.2 years in 2020 to 73.2 in 2021." Source​

Keep in mind there are averages, so many die before this age.

(I'm double vaccinated with the initial Moderna vaccine, but have not received any booster shots.)

 

Viper,

I LOVE a thinker. I particularly like someone who will pursue their hunch and attempt to verify that hunch with data.

Seekers of the truth are great people. And you clearly are one of them.

(And I admit, I did not attempt to critically evaluate your submitted data. I’m watching football!).

But it’s feel the reason you ought to be listened to is your willingness to ask important questions. Covid will NEVER be a black and white disease. Policy, on the other hand, may be. But the real truth behind the disease may never be known.

Thanks for keeping me thinking.

 

I haven't seen anyone try to explain this. It may be possible it mutated to become more infectious and/or deadly sometime after October 2019. That whole linear progression in human bodies versus petri dishes and lab animals.

The authorities seem to have sh*t themselves when it was hinted it was man-made and possibly a bioweapon, and funded by the US government.

Perhaps there were two lab leaks, Strain A and Strain B. Or, Strain A was naturally occurring and Strain B not naturally occurring.

 

This points out an important set of points of this thread.

A: what IS the disease? What IS the medical treatment? Where did it start? Etc.

2: what is the correct POLICY in light of A?

I feel the disease itself has a lot of unknowns. Maybe never known. But our policy response—the most horrible mistake of mankind—a different matter.