Covid-19 and Life

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    This idea still doesn't make any sense. I am now after yesterday mandated to get a vaccine or resign from my job despite the fact that I have already recovered from covid and the facts state that recovered individuals have 13.5 times more immunity than vaccinated people. Not to mention the facts from our own CDC that reinfections are rare if not non-existent and that getting the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting the virus or spreading it. The two choices when voting in the U.S. now involve picking between one group that wants to constantly invade other countries in a military fashion and the other which clearly wants to create a fascist society in the name of "helping" us all.
     
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    This is very interesting. From the latest Public Health England report, released today.

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    Yes. There used to be a time when vaccination was not questioned in general.
    And less than 5% of the actual cases are vaccinated people.
    As far as I know none of them has died.
     
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    ITV "journalist" and lockdown advocate robert peston at last discovers things are not as we have been led to believe by the so called experts...

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    A proportion of healthy working age people are knocked out for a day or 2 by the vaccine, so surely it could kill the frail elderly and vulnerable.

    I think this is one of the many scandals waiting to be uncovered in the years to come.

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    Ivermectin:.

    2015 - Part of a Nobel Prize in medicine for it's usefulness in treating humans.
    2021 - A horse de-worming drug that only desperate anti-vaxxers take.

    I wonder what next year will bring?

    Can The Mansion start an "over/under" bet on how many booster shots we will have next year? If so, I'd like to set the initial number to 6. By the end of 2022 there will be more than six "boosters" in my prediction.

    Maybe we will all be in the happy camps by then.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34466270/
     
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    The madness will only stop when the everyday citizen uses his or her own brain and decides enough is enough and it’s all pointless
     
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    I fully agree with your statement. I think. Can you clarify that last point please? "and it's all pointless"
     
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    I just had to laugh at this.
    You can get your proof of both vaccines to travel out of the U.K. and it’s accepted by most of Europe that you are ok and you don’t need to do a test for entry to there country.
    However to return to the U.K. you must take tests. Lol so funny.
    So basically other country’s governments accept a bit of paper produced by our government but our own government dosent.
     
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    That's the best example I've seen yet. Thanks.

    In the USA, there is a certain city* that has banned circumcisions but allows for abortions. That's right, you can't trim the foreskin of the baby, but you can kill it.

    * I won't name it because doing so will be potentially inflammatory and not useful for the thread.
     
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    Pointless to think we can stop and virus. They burn out or adapt to stay alive like we and all animals and living organisms do.
    A virus needs a healthy host to stay alive as by killing the host it dies itself so there aim is not to kill there aim is to spread to survive hence why they adapt so well.
    If we had not tried hiding from it it in my opinion would have been burning out or much better settled by now.
    And let’s say what we’re not meant to say that nearly all that died were already sick people so if the virus didn’t get them something else would have in general. We’re not meant to say that the obese were thinned out by this along with many others that were already sick or living on borrowed time.
    Of course the media highlights the odd case of so called healthy people that died of it but then again they hide the amount of healthy that died from the vaccines.

    Reality is the cost and mess up by many governments like the U.K. ones bizarre ways dealing with things has effected all lives and is far far worse and bigger than the few that have died of it.
    Of course the many many more that have died and will die in the future because of been untreated undiagnosed or have been diagnosed too late for cancers and many other issues.
    So reality is we have a few thousand dead classed as the virus which in most cases isn’t true and millions dead ( I am counting those that will die as well as those already dead in this statement of my opinion )from all other things caused by the crazy response.
     
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    If my response makes sense as I get lost in my reply and I’m not the best at English
     
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    Thank you for the clarification. Yes. I DO agree with you completely.

    And I appreciate you making the effort in English. You are easy to understand.
     
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    Well said.

    And now the insanity of jabbing children who are at no risk. Some of them are going to die from the jabs.

    In emergencies they used to say "women and children first", but it's now "sacrifice some children on the chance it might save some oldies".

    If I was elderly I wouldn't want any children to be sacrificed to save me.
     
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    I couldn’t agree more Lucy.
     
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    As of Sept. 9 VAERS report:

    675, 591 Adverse events. (this is the total, the following numbers are subtotals) And keep in mind, history has shown the VAERS report at BEST only captures 10% of total events.

    14,506 deaths
    58,440 hospitalizations
    77,919 urgent care
    106,184 office visits
    5783 anaphylaxis cases
    7911 Bell's Palsy
    1757 miscarriages
    6422 heart attacks
    5371 Myo/pericarditis
    18,439 permanently disabled
    2910 Thrombocytopenia
    15,594 Life threatening "other"
    27,336 severe allergic reaction
    7810 shingles

    Safe and effective!!!!
     
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    Some say that people who died shortly after having the vaccine were going to die anyway, but if that is true, why did they get jabbed?

    If they were on their death beds already it would have been pointless to jab them, so that can't be the case.
     
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    AND, as you previously pointed out, the standard for "vaccinated death" is criminally misleading. Died within 14 days of the shot? Well, you weren't REALLY vaccinated, were ya?

    All of this to say, the deaths, disabling injuries, miscarriages, etc. are woefully under counted.
     
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    You couldn't have done theater to convey theater as well as reality did.
     
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    In 2015 avermectin was awarded the Nobel prize for treatment of parasites in humans. Merck commercialized the Avermectin B1 derivative, ivermectin, for veterinary use for treating parasites, not covid 19. But if Joe Rogan says it is true, or the right wing Fox News, typical white Christian men will buy into anything to keep things in their favor, or to avoid change. Dig a bit deeper before putting your foot in your mouth.

    Lucy, I am all in favor of protest, or questioning authority, but the few pieces of evidence you and your peanut gallery are pointing to are not conclusive.

    A little advice- stop swimming in the internet echo chamber of your choosing if you really want to learn anything. If anything, this pandemic highlights human fragility, to novel disease, and ignorance.
     
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    It's only a matter of time....

     
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    I suppose if you disagree, then someone's source of information is an "echo chamber".

    But seeing as my last post about adverse reactions came from the same government that is pushing the vaccine, I suppose you are right.....and echo chamber....of lies.

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't trust a government that is going to give me an illegal (Federally), cancer causing drug as an incentive to take another drug "for my health".
     
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    The elderly, vulnerable and obese should be locking down, instead of vaccinating children who are at 0.0001% risk from a virus.
     
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