Chastity cheating

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  1. L-u-c-y
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    Why would anyone want to cheat and pull a device off and slip it on again. 99% of the time it's the males idea to be in chastity, there have been no end of threads asking advice on how to get a wife/girlfriend interested in chastity, so once she is interested, why would anyone cheat?
     
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    Fantasy =/= Reality

    Its easy to think that you want to be locked up for weeks, months, years etc.

    its a whole other story when you're actually locked up.

    Then there's the whole desire for punishment thing too.
     
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    L-u-c-y, Those who cheat as you describe, or in any way, are weak willed and unable to commit -- sounds like the male species. Is it not better for society as a whole to ensure 'cheating' - however one chooses to describe it - is not possible.... most likely the answer is 'yes'.

    And, as @lockedtoserve informs, reality didn't meet their fantasy (or did it....?).
     
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    If fantasy doesn't live up to the reality, why not just give up and say chastity is not what you thought it would be? Why carry on and cheat? It seems to be only cheating yourself.
     
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    I was merely providing possible answers to your question. And again, they could be doing it out of a desire to be punished.

    As for not giving it up, maybe it was a moment of weakness. Maybe they don't want to disappoint their KH by stopping it.

    Lots of maybes. Lots of conditionals too. Are we talking about someone who regularly does it? Or is it just once in a while? If someone regularly does it, then yeah maybe they should give up chastity. If its once in a while, then it could be out of a desire for punishment/stronger domination, moment of weakness, or many other reasons.
     
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    Begs the question why bother putting criminals in prison- just get them to promise not to do it again.
     
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    I have to side with L-u-c-y on this one. We tried it for fourteen months and one day while I was running free... it just stayed out... for about three months. No word was said by either of us.

    We finally talked about why it didn't work out and now I have been caged for two weeks. Not much is different from the first except... I realize she had done just what I was hoping for. I think now the adjustment period is over I am much happier this time around and it looks hopeful.

    Plus the added benefit to her because I do much more to make her happy. She no longer ask that I do something for her... she tells me to do it. So I think we both grew in the lapse as we both recognized the benefits.
     
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    When self locked, I cheat. No willpower. Need to be controlled.
     
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    A thoughtful topic and some interesting replies, I am not full time being new to this but have found the giving over of control good. My little bit if i cage/locked it is for whenever is decided and no cheating, it is the challenge and commitment that counts.
     
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    Hey you’re honest that’s good!
     
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    This is why I don't use a cage. It's only me and my Mistress, and she has told me what she wants, which is chastity one month at a time. I could lie, but what's the point of that?

    The important thing is that this is what I want. Why would I lie about it? I want to be chaste, my Mistress wants me to be chaste, so why do anything different?
     
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    Miss Lucy you do like to ask questions that make us think... as usual you have not disappointed.

    When some of us,wearer or KH first get into TTTWD it is most likely I think that their original perceptions of would or did transpire will prove to be less than accurate. So we get the reality V fantasy situation. Which rather than admit he is not upto the reality of his wife being KH the wearer may from time to time relieve himself without saying anything in the belief he is keeping the cart on the rails.

    Then there is the simple thing that for some of us to tell us we are not allowed to do something makes the thought doing it more desirable. As a kid had I been given a dozen apples would I have eaten them all at once?... but if i had been scrumping... quite literally the attraction of forbidden fruit.

    Another motive might just be the getting something over ones 'jailer'.
    Or more simply just trying to appear to be someone you are not but might aspire to be.. the chaste male or even the obedient chaste male.

    Then the attitudes of the locked and denied will be different dependent upon their motivation for being locked and denied. For some of us this is a game we enjoy and perhaps would not like to not be involved in it...for others its a lifestyle thing. Of course for some .. perhaps the more extremely dedicated to the idea of serving their Mistress with the possible complete lack of any sexual attention from the woman in their life either deliberately or implied may find that their bodies are not quite as up for that lifestyle as their minds are ...so every now and then they just need to relieve some tension.

    In each case of 'cheating' the cheat may well regret his actions after ....but that and what is or may be done about it is a whole other thread I'm thinking.

    And of course not to be over looked any man who feels he needs to come strongly enough is quite able to justify any actions of his that bring that about ....well justify it to himself that is.

    This not meant overlook what Miss Lucy asked in her OP
    Why would anyone want to cheat and pull a device off and slip it on again. 99% of the time it's the males idea to be in chastity, there have been no end of threads asking advice on how to get a wife/girlfriend interested in chastity, so once she is interested, why would anyone cheat?
    Which is something that holds very true for many of us that have asked to be locked and denied and given control over to our SOs.. I really believe that in general many of us just don't 'cheat', as there would be no point in any of TTTWD.

    For me the whole head-fuck is to be in a position that although I really would not cheat I want to be in a position where I can't that was imposed by my SO.
     
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    Because we have moments of weakness, thats why

    I have an adiction to porn (who doesnt lilke porn where you can choose what to watch and from who) and to jerk, it was starting to be a real problem because i noticed that i cant cum as easy as i should, loss libido (looking the boobs of a woman, sorry ladies, was enough back them, i cant remenber how many years since that happened last time) and i cant get hard as i used to, only rare moments instead of all the time, it is hard but it can be harder an a little longer

    So last month, April, after many years knowing i has a problem i decided to start a no fap challenge to heal my self a little, i was very determined and i thougth i could make it, only 10 days later i cum, it was an accident, edging but it happened, 3 weeks later i was wacthing porn again without touching and i couldnt resist so i touch and cum again, i was horny as i never has been

    That happened the 28 or the 29, i started again the no fap for this month and only 2 days later happened again, until now and we will see how far i can do it

    I know it is what i has to do, i am doing for my self and i must do, porn is throwing away my life and time and some days happens what has to happen, today for example i watched 2 or 3 hours of porn, not touching but i wasnt strong enough to resist, for me jerking or not is not what matters, it is saving myself hours every day and instead of wasting my life make something more useful, i dont have any reason to watch or jerk but i do, i cant always endure even knowing it makes me harm and i has to stopp it right now

    Imagine if is someone else who told me that and it is not what i want or feel, it is not as easy as it looks, i passed the "blue" balls (they didnt turned blue) without much problems, it hurts a little so i was feeling as i made it and not close, more porn few days later and a fail, i joined to start a journal but because i am as lazy as you can get i didnt

    Imagine if you has a bad day and you are locked by another person, you wanted that but today you need to cum, you need your orgasm, males are born to cum and fuck every hole they see, it is how we are so sooner or later nature will kick in and we will try our best to get a relief, you has to so you go to your wife and ask for a release, if the answer is no you will find another way, not because you want but because you need it, we may think as the smart thing on earth but even us has instinct that we cant fougth back and win, in that moments doesnt matter anything else, was your idea? Fuck that off, Hers? Fuck that off even more. Later remorse will arise but the act it is done and it is too late
     
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    To me it’s a simple formula, something like what I went through when I first started experimenting with chastity:
    1. Get turned on by thinking about chastity
    2. Put on a chastity device
    3. Get even more turned on
    4. Pull out or bust out somehow
    5. Have orgasm
    6. Return to step 1 (eventually)
    It can take a few iterations to break out of that cycle, particularly if you’re a self locker. I never had an online KH, but if I had, the thought of it being that much farther “out of my control” would have supercharged my feelings at step 3 (at least the first time).

    People who are just playing at it, even though they may be playing very convincingly, have no incentive to break out of the cycle. They’ve just found a hot new way to spank it, so they do. Others come to realize that breaking their commitment to their KH is not worth the momentary pleasure of an orgasm, so they modify their behavior.

    Or an even simpler formula: the male orgasm is a hell of a drug.
     
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    A lot of the time I don't think its a case of necessarily wanting to cheat by escaping, its just that you can. Personally knowing I really couldn't get any relief whatsoever would be fantastic! I found I could get my penis out of my cage and was very disappointed. I have taken measures to stop this and am 95℅ secure which is much better, I also have very sensitive nipples (only found that out when we started chastity) and if I work at it can get relief (not a proper orgasm). It takes a lot of time but can be done. I have a full belt from behind barz but my daughter is back with us at the moment so that's on hold for now. It wouldn't be practical to wear 24/7 365 yet as my work makes it impractical. So here I am 90 - 95℅ secure. Do I still cheat? Well, no. I like to tease my nipples a bit and I do see if I can pull out (but can't, if I did manage it would be painful). So consequently I'm locked and orgasm free. We love me locked, the whole control thing! Do I want to cheat? Not really, I would be upset if I did and Mrs Chaste would really go mad. I couldn't do it without the cage though its all part of the fun for us and reminds me how lucky I am. We play the game that I have to be locked to protect me from being led astray by all those loose women out there as they'd like nothing better (yeah like, I'm knocking 60, not much hair and not exactly Adonis!). Also as Mrs Chaste says "My first husband was fucking another woman and left me, you aren't getting the chance". Although its said in play she admits there is an element of truth. As she says " I trust you 99℅!... I think". Its all good fun! In answer to the question why would you cheat? I don't know! Certainly got a lot of thinking! Thanks.
     
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    I don’t know why anyone would try to remove it either, I’ve never tried to get out with out my wife’s permission, nor will I ever try. I wanted this and I have no desire to cheat, I love being denied.
     
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    As one well known member here used to say frequently, the device is really just intended to be a speed bump in the road, to give you a chance to stop and think about what it is you really want and why your doing it. He also felt that the vast majority of devices most males use would and could be defeated if they really wanted to.
     
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    Male weakness and shortsightedness of course.....one really cheats oneself of all the intensity of being obedient and your service value to your keyholder.
     
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    From my experience it's related to the fantasy of being locked in chastity. The reality as many members here know, can be somewhat problematic. Therefore it's easier if the male can pop it on and off or even have a key that his kH is unaware of and as you put it "cheat" rather than suffering hardship. That way he can have his cake and eat it. It's actually how the majority of locked males go about being chaste. So long as his KH believes he is not cheating then his fantasy is both satisfying and sustainable.
     
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    It is clear that the male's orgasm has an effect on the level of testosterone. Falls down also.
    He temporarily lose interest in her for.
    Testosterone production is a 14-day cycle.
    If there is no satisfaction during this, the highest level is persisting.
    The male body begins to produce such pleasure hormones that grow their sexual drive.
    If you are not satisfied with it then you have to transform your sex energy
    existence instinct energy.

    This is a socialization sublimation.

    Women have always postponed to a man, the answer is "yes". It is also for women to avoid devotion to a man immediately.

    This is a man's urge.

    "Purity" is such a socialization.
    It's exciting and teaches men to love.
    The women are teaching this.
    I think ...
    (Bad English, I know :)
     
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    Let's face it unless your in a full belt or pierced you can pull out no matter what device .we have tried several so only way is to get pierced
     
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    I have cheated because my prefrontal cortex forces the rest of my brain to jo like a crazed monkey. It’s not much of a choice, as weak as that sounds. Chastity was more of a game initially but now my wife prefers it (more than I do, honestly). We both know it works for us.
     
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    If you are sincere about being in chastity, but weak willed then get a Mistress Lori’s chastity device that requires you to get your penis pierced. Actually, do that first before ordering your device, because you need 120 days to fully heal. Her devices are the real deal, very comfortable, and 100% escape proof, unless you want to rid the tip of your penis off. That is if you got a Prince Albert piercing.
    Her devices are made specifically for you. She tries her best to make sure your measurements are correct. Yes, they are a little costly, but well, well worth the price.
    Once locked up, you know you are no longer playing a game. This is real.
    I have been pierced 4 times, PA piercings. Why so much you ask? I tried to get my wife to be my key holder but she lost interest every time. I am still a chronic masturbator.
    At 67 years old we no longer have sex, but I still masturbate daily.
    I have found a dominatrix who lives just 30 miles away, who wants to be me key holder,
    so I got a PA piercing for the 4th time and ordered my Mistress Lori’s #1 chastity device. 8-10 weeks to make it. I now have to wait NOW 90 days for my piercing to heal.
     
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    What size is your PA? I have an 8 gauge and am wondering if I should go larger before getting a cage.
     
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    I imagine self-locking or to some degree remote key-holding is more of a fetish thing. The consequences of a cheat are somewhat self-induced and therefore minimized. If you live WITH your key holder such as in an FLR and the Missus locks you up shit just got real I'm afraid
     
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