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  1. L-u-c-y
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    Men make a lot of crap up, that is the nature of the beast.

    Concentrate on posts by the verified female members and you'll get more reality.
     
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    I'd like a bullshit button or a "Cool story bro." button.

    People get carried away and that's especially true in fetish communities, and ones such as chastity that correlates so strongly with driving people and their hormones wild through denial.... but there has to be a line.

    I think it's terrible that you can have people posting in device threads, offering feedback and anecdotes about them..... When they don't even own them. They just happen to coincide with whatever horny fantasy they're living in their head.

    Some of these devices can be $100's of dollars and are not cheap toy's for people to buy on a whim from the recommendation of a fictional poster on the internet. It'd be nice to have a polite way to call them out.
     
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    In other words, Yahoo groups. ;)

    There is a tendency for some men to seek attention by writing up a fantasy and pretending it's real. It's silly, because they'd get just as much attention from spinning a good piece of fiction, but they don't see it that way.

    Groups can be self policing, but it's not easy, and a few people habitually calling BS (warranted or not) can be enough to shut down *any* decent discussion.
     
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    Perhaps people today are too accepting about what is posted on line. I never take one person's advice, unless I have dealt with them on numerous occasions, and even then I do additional research.

    It is a jungle out there, act accordingly.
     
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    I think you're ignoring an incredibly important part. No man is an island, everyone is influenced by the social circles we run in, our feelings and emotions....... and advertisements prey on these aspects of our social conditioning.

    We're currently right now around the world having problems with conspiracy theorists destroying 5G towers because they read online that 5G causes Corona Virus.

    Allowing bullshit to propagate your platform, makes you complicit in it's spread. Look no further then the corrosive effects of social media on places like facebook.

    If we are to be a community to teach people about chastity and the roles and responsibilities of this lifestyle, FLR and fetishes in general, then we have an obligation to teach people correctly and honestly. Free from bullshit.
     
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    The teaching part is important part and this site has helped me, but I am sorry to say it is the internet so we just have to sort thru it or is always there and to those of us living it it is easy to identify.
     
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    And thanks to all the fantasy bs that has gone around our social circle jerk (which by no means is limited to this site), take a look at the contrived and vapid state of femdom porn, which only adds to the problem and creates a nasty feedback loop. Luckily, there are some fantastic amateur content creators on PH making chastity and femdom look both realistic and fun.
     
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    What is your definition of realistic chastity?
     
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    Apologies for the vague word choice. Tbh, I'm not sure about the best way to put it, but I'll give it a shot...

    "Realistic" to me is a more casual approach to femdom & chastity that everyday couples would be willing to try out and enjoy. And by "everyday couples", I mean those who are busy with careers, kids, vanilla friends, other hobbies, etc and cannot be constantly focused on strict D/s. So it exists somewhere between bedroom-only and a full-blown lifestyle change. Perhaps better buzzwords might be approachable, playful, grounded, relatable, sustainable... I'm sure you get the idea.

    I think most people on this site live within this realm, so I don't think a 'dislike' or 'cool story bro' button would be used as often as you'd think. I also understand that some couples are truly able to immerse themselves fulltime in an alternative (or even extreme) lifestyle. Nevertheless, there are those who try their hardest to convince us that they do as well, even though their stories are pulled straight from bad porn scripts and image captions. And the most annoying thing is watching them get praised for it with responses like "wow you're so lucky, I wish my Mistress was like that".
     
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    Well, okay.

    Yes, there are dummies in the world. So, what else is new? An IQ of 100 is average.

    Facebook is just a bunch of people gabbing. Free association. Here in the United States it is heavily protected in the Bill of Rights. You cannot stop that.

    This site is not a educational institution, no such obligation exists. Also note that most educational institutions today do not instruct people correctly.

    Perhaps I am a misanthrope, but I do not have a lot of hope for the future of (wo)?mankind.
     
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    I just want to go on the record and say I hate Facebook
     
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    The great irony here is that you're actually the stupid person who thinks they're the smart person.

    The bill of rights protects you from the government, not a private institution. The very idea that you're dumb enough to get Facebook mixed up with a government institution and use it as an argument to handwave concerns is laughable.

    You're Dunning Kruger personified.
     
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    So, you are going to pull ad hominem out?

    My point is that the government cannot do anything about Facebook. The first amendment does apply to that.

    You lose the argument. Now, go play in traffic!
     
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    No it fucking doesn't you imbecile.

    The first amendment has fucking NOTHING to do with a private platform. A company can and will delete, alter, censor any fucking content they want for ANY reason. The fact you don't know that and yet i do as an Australian speaks VOLUMES about your capacity to understand basic concepts.

    I'm calling you a walking, talking Dunning Kruger because you fit the bill perfect and have pointed out flaws in your understanding as to WHY i was calling you that.

    Ad Hominem is attacking the person not the argument. You don't have an argument, because you don't even understand what you're fucking referencing.

    You're invoking a constitution that I know more about then you and i'm Australian.
    You're a fool.
     
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    Where did I say that facebook could not handle its platform the way it chooses?

    What I did say is that the government cannot force it to "clean up".

    You became abusive and attacked me repeatedly for whatever reason I do not understand. I certainly did not attack you.

    I am really very surprised by your behavior.
     
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    I don't even care what the argument is anymore, I just love when logical fallacies are pointed out. I was careful to mention my use of the slippery slope fallacy, and just wanted to caution you about breaking out the fallacy fallacy. Okay, so now putting my red herring about fallacies aside in order to try and keep this thread on topic, I do want to ask you...

    Let's say hypothetically the site gets overrun with people spouting fantasy garbage and that becomes the norm. Would we just throw our hands up and say, "whelp, that's just the internet at work"?

    Okay, I know you and I are are the same side of the bullshit button debate, but yikes.
     
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    This is all i had to google.

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    "Facebook is just a bunch of people gabbing. Free association. Here in the United States it is heavily protected in the Bill of Rights. You cannot stop that."

    So why did you link the Bill of Rights, to Facebook here. Own your position instead of trying to weasel out of it. At least have some balls to stand by the statement's you've made in black and white.

    It's ok to be wrong, everyone fucks up, but you're being incredibly dishonest here. That's why i'm reacting the way to you I am. Stop moving goalposts.
     
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    #44 L-u-c-y, Apr 24, 2020
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    Wind your neck in please boy. No need to fly off the handle.
     
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    So? I already said that I understand that. I think you misunderstood my way earlier post. I already rephrased myself.

    Still you keep going at it. I do not understand your reaction at all.
     
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    I think that this is where the misunderstanding began. I interpreted this as you railing against social media like many do these days: "Something must be done." What they mean is that the government must do something about it.

    I said, no the government cannot do anything about that. And, I gave my reason.

    You then flew completely off the handle and became abusive towards me. I don't know why.
     
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    I will just add that I think that the administration of this site already does an excellent job policing the content.

    I am concerned that what has been proposed in this thread will do harm to the general atmosphere.

    As I stated earlier, my position is that if you think that a post or a thread is "BS", and not worth responding to, then just move on to another post or thread.
     
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    I've been on the Internet for a very long time and been a part of a lot of forums that have had such a thing to like posts as well as dislike posts. It's always helped to curb some of the more fantastical stuff and Bring people a little closer to reality.

    It's always been a pretty positive thing, because even if you end up in the worst case scenario where a person is being called for bullshit despite it being their reality, it's always pretty easy for them to prove the validity of their statements.

    And then people's perceptions immediately change to awe and respect for the cool stuff they get up to.

    I'd just personally like that for all of the reasons I've stated
     
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    That is the point, you are setting up a situation where someone can be unfairly criticized about something they post just due to popular opinion. Then, you expect them to "prove it", or else? That is not what this site has been about from the beginning.

    There are some things that should not be open to popular voting. Let the reader decide the veracity and the applicability of postings to their own situation.
     
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    Can you imagine if people had to stand behind their words?

    What horror.
     
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