BA02 with permanent lock - anyone ever done it?

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    Just a word of caution from someone who wore a chastity cage and was rushed to the hospital where they had to go through my urethra in an emergency operation at a small local hospital with minimal staff. If I had to wait for them to find a way to cut off a plastic cage when one lung and half of the other was collapsed and a massive infection was killing me, I would be dead now.

    I was in the hospital for 8 days which is a lot and almost did not make it. To make matters worse, they had to go in again a second time. No permanent locks for me because the first rule of fetish play is to play safe and sane. Permanent locks are porn fantasies and can cause you a lot of problems. Even have a ball slip out and not be able to get it back in unless you unlocked? I have.

    I tell others to do what they want but be prepared for the unexpected because it is the things you never think of that end up biting you in the ass so to speak. I learned to play safe and sane when I was 22 and bought bought a large strap on like the ones I saw in porn. It ended up ripping my colon causing a anal fissure which got infected and was the most intense pain I ever experienced warranting another surgery on Christmas eve. Since then I play safe and sane and no longer stupid about imitating scripted porn starring people who are used to large strap ons. But, do what you want as it is your life to live as you want. I chose to play safe and sane as did most of the BDSM couples in my club did. That is why at age 72 i still alive to do fetish sex.
     
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    I agree with you, but they sell the product, so I was wondering if anyone had ever used it.
     
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    Probably not many. I never met someone who actually allowed themselves to be locked without a removable lock but for every bolt there is a nut or they would not make them. I am interested too but just wanted to say what I said for any new guys who may not think of the negative effects.
     
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    I’m not aware of anyone who has done it, but Lori who used to make “Lori’s tubes”, at one point supplied a set of permanent break-off screws with every device.

    My sense is that this was partly to put a little fear into the wearer and to encourage keyholders to go for longer lock-ups, and that very few, if any people actually used them.
     
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    How do you know?
     
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    I don’t - I just said it was ‘my sense’, based on following the topic for a long time.
     
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    Your point is valid not only for permanent locks, which I doubt anyone has really done, but also folks who are regularly locked without an emergency key, of which there are many folks here.
     
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    This is a really interesting question. I've been hanging out in permanent chastity spaces for years, and I can't recall anybody actually flaunting one of these with the C-clips installed.

    Speaking for myself, I don't think I would feel comfortable sealed in anything that required serious tools to escape. I can think of short notice reasons why I might have to pass through a body scanner, and I don't want to go there. (I'd feel different if we were more mainstream.)

    However, from a practical point of view, I think something like this in titanium - i.e. OK for an MRI machine - and without a piercing would be fine. If - like in @Vinnyfl 's experience - doctors needed sudden access to your urethra, you or they could just pull your penis out of the back.

    With a PA hook... I think I'd want to be clear that the design had an obvious place where paramedics (or whoever) could deploy their hi-tech bolt cutters.
     
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    Here. I'll test it out and write a review....

    Oh wait. Fuck!
     
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    Im wearing a BA-31 with the permanent c clip installed. I’ve had it on since early July. I previously wore a BA-25 with permanent clip for close to 2 years. I sadly had to cut that device off due to a tether spout related injury.

    The extreme medical emergency scenario is not something I spend much time worrying about. I’ve posted about my experiences and lifestyle on Reddit and a little here as well. Happy to elaborate if there is interest.
     
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    Interesting - how did you cut it off?
     
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    I snipped the weld with huge 36” bolt cutters. I could not cut through the base ring. IMG_2031.jpeg
     
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    Why didn't you just drill the top of the circlip?
     
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    I'm not interested in using a permanent lock, but I'm curious about the mechanism. Can you, @Fastben, or anyone else explain how the c-clip is used to make this permanent?
     
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    #16 bondinchas, Nov 22, 2023
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    In theory it's not really permanent, if it can mechanically go in, it can mechanically come out again. But...
    There's very little room for a strong enough pair of circlip pliers to locate on the ends of the circlip, spread the ends apart and extract the clip. Given the difficult access, the likelyhood is that the clip ends when forced apart and under tension will just slip off the pliers and spring back into place.
    You'd likely have to hack a pair of circlip pliers to fit the exact size of slot and the end profile of the clip to have a good chance of removing them. It would take some time to fabricate and they'd have to be a strong enough (difficult to machine) metal to have the extracting pins small enough and precisely shaped to do the job.

    There might be other ways ... grinding away the clip to weaken and snap it on the side opposite the ends for example, but however you try it, the biggest problem is always the same, not so much the metal engineering, as being able to do it without causing injury, or less importantly, destroying the device.

    So yes, for your "average Joe", without skilled medically aware engineering assistance it's pretty much permanent.
     
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    Thank you @bondinchas. But I'm mechanically incompetent, and I didn't get where the clip is going, and how it's holding the cage and the ring together. However, since you used the obviously technical name "circlip", I was able to Google it and figure it out. Clever!
     
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    This is timely for me as I am preparing to attempt to remove the device (c clip BAWR) I’m wearing and replace it with a new BAWR cage, also with c clip. You can see that the 2 bars make getting to the clip very difficult. This is a photo of the device I’m currently wearing with the clip not fully inserted. IMG_2289.jpeg
     

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    While I'm not a machinist, I am a homeowner with a well equipped garage and more tools than I probably need. Getting this off doesn't seem THAT much of a challenge to me and the biggest risk is accidentally slipping with a tool so close to sensitive body parts. This is especially challenging since it's being worn and a bit cumbersome to work on in that position.

    That being said, I'm shocked sometimes at the assistance people seek online for such mundane tasks as hanging a flat screen television, repairing a sink trap, or doing small repairs on powered lawn equipment. THESE folks are effectively trapped permanently without any hope of release without help. I'm not judging their lack of tools and skills, merely pointing the truth out.
     
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    Me neither, and if you bought a few circlips online of the same size to replace the one you might damage, no one would be any wiser, too.

    In case of the zombie nation rising, most people would die when the water ran out, lol.
     
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    I mean, clearly most would die when zombies attacked…
     
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    Like with covid?
     
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    #23 IB-Chaste, Dec 18, 2023
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    Oh no, it’s very unlikely that covid could cause such a mutation for the dead to walk… but still, you get how transmission works. So that’s good. It would more likely to have to be directly into the bloodstream, so in reality it’s closer to HIV.

    So what we’re talking about really is an army of gay zombies that would kill off most of the people….

    I jest of course
     
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    There was a forum member who had a BAWR cage with the scrotum bar that had hex screws + circlips. IIRC the circlips were installed on that bar but the cage was secured with a lock. A few others have mentioned installing the circlip on the cage and then later cutting it via the weld from the cage to the fastening ring above it. I have also heard BAWR has strengthened this joint in newer cages.

    I believe I also saw a member who modified the circlips to make them harder to extract. I think if you have a Ti cage, if the posts next to the circlip are substantial and obscure access to the open portion of the clip, perhaps if the clip itself is Ti, I think that would be a struggle for most people to get off. With anything, it's a matter of time and effort and tools.

    Now if you expoy the clip in place.... lol.
     
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    Do you have links for your Reddit posts?
     
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