Are there 2 types of cuckolding?

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    #1 L-u-c-y, Jul 13, 2018
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    Before I start this thread I want to make it clear I am not telling anyone what is right or wrong, or saying people shouldn't post about certain topics, I'm just starting a debate and asking questions.

    I'm seeing a lot of (what I see as) disrespectful speech about women on cuckold threads. I don't pretend to know anything about the subject but there seems to be 2 types of cuckolding:

    1. The female cuckolds her husband and does as she wishes. (no problem with that)
    2. The female is dominated by a "bull" who dominates her and the husband. (the wife is submissive)

    On one thread I've seen these comments from 3 different people:

    "she returns with his cum seeping out of her cunt"
    "I had to imagine in my head what was happening to my wife's deprived cunt"
    "Some of the women I have had sex with are insane but I still want to be cucked more than fuck a new hot chick."

    These kind of comments are not only from the "bulls" but also the so called submissive husbands. They don't appear to be talking about women with respect. Would dominant women be happy about being spoken about in this way?

    To me, a lot of cuckolding seems to be just the husband wanting to watch a "live porno" featuring his wife, if she likes it or not.

    Does this kind of cuckoldry (where the husband wants to see his wife be submissive to another man) belong on a chastity and female led relationships site?

    Should a new cuckold mansion site be created to cater for it?
     
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    I say add it to the site. It only makes those of us locked respect and admire our keyholder and their bulls that much more
     
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    I do agree that you need a Cuckold Mansion. Cuckolding and chastity integrate a lot of times. For my wife and I cuckolding began before chasity but my wife was already denying me intercourse. Being fixed with a chastity device just seemed like a natural evolution and added an exciting dynamic to our sex life.

    I do see how a dominant woman as yourself can question how I talked about my wife's treasures as disrespectful. Generally what I said is how I am spoken to by my wife ie "Clean my cunt lil girl!" "My cunt is nice and full!" With that said I would bet that me calling what is between her legs a cunt may or may not upset her. Sometimes she loves to feel dirty and used and that is the normal dialog. I suppose talking like that could result in a significant punishment as well...
     
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    I'd think any type of man or woman would find those things vulgar but I've discovered there are countless nuances to any given kink and just because a person primarily displays a dominant or submissive personality doesn't mean they aren't multifaceted.

    It's not very surprising that a person who submits in her daily life would find they enjoy being dominant at home or vice versa.
    I've always thought of chastity mansion as a site dedicated to chastity and it's many associated kinks. This comment implies that female led relationships go hand in hand with chastity and I hope the site isn't planning on making that an official stance. Myself and I'd assume many others who visit the site don't use chastity in any type of d/s relationship.

    In fact the sites description says it's primary function is to cater to regular old Joe's and Jane's who are inexperienced, probably many of which have no idea how chastity will work in their relationship.

    The number one site for male chastity information. We aim to cater for all levels of experience in the male chastity lifestyle, but primarily want to provide a safe haven for those on the more inexperienced side. This does not mean you are excluded if you are living the D/s life, please come in and share your secrets to success.


    Why would we even consider limiting what kinks are allowed to be discussed here as long as they vaguely relate to chastity? I personally feel like the site having one less chucking forum would be great since I don't find that kink particularly interesting. However if the reason we would consider removing it is because it doesn't mesh well with the every so popular female domination group I'd oppose the change.

    With how much of a minority loving chastity between equals or even male domination seem to be here I'd hope we would try make sure there is always a safe place for people to discuss those variations of chastity play.
    I'd love to see a separate site for the chucking discussions to take place. Because I feel like by the time a couple has progressed that far into their kinks there are much more detailed things to discuss other than tame old chastity.

    To me it's rather like a Band-Aid forum having a huge group of people who discuss surgery. Yes it's true a complex surgery may require bandaids but it seems like it would make more sense to carry on the whole surgery discussion in a dedicated place with a subsection for any bandaid questions. =P
     
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    For my wife and I cuckolding was a real life porno but for her not me. Imagine having the power over two men providing you two different types of love and devotion. My wife has never felt so excited or had such a glow about her when she had a lover. She also was being sexually fulfilled which for her was by far the most important thing about cuckolding me.
     
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    Verbal disrespect seems like it is a big part in this fetish that people have. Maybe it is just a case of, if somebody is not interested in it, they just can't understand it. Cuckolding definitely is the most "disrespectful" fetish that you can have in many ways and that probably is the point of it all. It sounds like it falls under the umbrella of chastity though.
     
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    I don't think a new mansion needs to be created to accommodate cuckolding
    Cuckolding by definition is a marriage with an unfaithful wife and the husband doesn't know or is unable to do anything about it. Popular literature and pornography has exploited race, humiliation and dominance into the picture.
    When Mistress Linda and agreed on the rules of our relationship including my fidelity and chastity there was an automatic assumption she had the power and freedom to pursue and seek out others for her needs. To the best of my knowledge she has not had to do that. However she is well aware of the effect this power has over me. She is a popular woman with several men friends and she delights in talking about them and even going out to lunch and dinner with them from time to time.
    I have no desire to be cuckolded but the prospect is very exciting and my wise Mistress is aware of this.
    It is a good topic and in my opinion goes well with chastity.
     
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    I'd favor a separate cuckolding site as well. Cuckolding isn't necessarily tied to chastity, although that can be an element. In my case it's part of our female-led marriage where my wife insists upon the option of cucking me if she so pleases while I must remain faithful.
     
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    Over on this thread everyone agreed they did not approve of groups of men discussing women in crude ways like pieces of meat:

    https://www.chastitymansion.com/forums/index.php?threads/some-questions-for-males.27686/

    But it is happening here on this site:

    "she returns with his cum seeping out of her cunt"
    "I had to imagine in my head what was happening to my wife's deprived cunt"
    "Some of the women I have had sex with are insane but I still want to be cucked more than fuck a new hot chick."
     
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    I think there's a complex connection of various themes involving chastity and certain kinks that are woven in. Cuckolding can involve forced bisexuality, for example, if the hubby is required to service the bull. My FLR requires me to be feminized and, if my wife eventually requires it, sissification.
     
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    Perhaps there should be something like a verified check added to profiles deemed to be respectful? HA!

    Or perhaps there needs to be an exclusive sections for invited and aporoved males who only write respectful and desired language??? HAAA!!!

    In my humble opinion, there is already plenty of censorship going on throughout this site, why not just amend naughty launguage, or replace it with XXXX?
     
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    I'd have this as a subforum under'Other fetishes', like crossdressing and so on.

    And the two 'types' of cuckolding aren't that distinct, especially if she has switch tendencies. And/or she can totally dominate her husband at the same time as choosing to be submissive to a bull. I have come across a number like that on FL. Typically she dominates and cuckolds her husband because she considers he's not man enough to satisfy her properly but has found a bull who will who has a dominant personality which attracts her. With variations. Relationships can be complicated and do not always fit into neat pigeon-holes
     
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    And slightly at a tangent I'd have CFNM as another (separate) sub-forum there too. And perhaps others.
     
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    Personally I don't like the thought of cuckolding and pretty much avoid any threads on the subject.

    My thoughts are that CM is supposed to be welcoming to all which is great. For many years it has been a safe haven for women. One of the few sexual fetish sites where women are not objectified and treated as if they are only there to fuel the fantasies of men.

    It is a fine line to try and cater for all fetishes which could be remotely tied to chastity.

    I don't think that there needs to be censorship, but maybe keeping language that is demeaning to females could be kept to a minimum.
     
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    I don't know if a new site is needed for misogynistic fantasies but I think that kind of thing is disrespectful to women and has no place here. Thank you Mistress Lucy for leading the way.
     
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    Hi, I am new here but for my ten pence worth. I would rather ignore/skip past threads or comments that I found distasteful or personally offensive.

    I do take a lot of comments on any type of Website like this with a pinch of salt - there are a lot of fantasists out there not living in the real world.

    However I did have an ex girlfriend who was ‘switch’ in her approach to most aspects of sexuality and nothing you have mentioned would offend her.

    Tough question - exclude the few so as not to offend the many? As far as I’m concerned if it’s not illegal then to exclude is censorship.

    I can totally understand your thought process though and don’t envy you as I can see you are a ‘Moderator’ or something similar to this website? So the ground rules and boundaries must be a consideration for you. (Read headache for that last sentence :)
     
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    To All Of The Mistresses and Goddesses on CM...

    I would like to sincerely apologize for my disrespect of the superior gender. In using the "C" word I completely disrespected all of the Goddesses, Queens, and Mistresses on this website. Regardless if my Mistress and I decide to talk that way in context it does not mean it was appropriate for me to say it here. If I were to EVER use the "C" word to my Mistress in anger I would be destroyed. I promise you that I will never use it here again and I beg of you to allow me to continue to post my crazy sexual lifestyle here. I came here only after I was put into chastity but I throughly enjoy sharing all aspects of my relationship here. I will never use words that are degrading to woman on here again. I hope I do not find myself banned from the wonderful website you have provided for us.

    Humbly and sincerely....
     
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    I'm curious now. Were you being mean to someone or just talking about your kinks and just now discovered your comments found someone with thin skin?

    I read some pretty vulgar stuff on here quite often and it doesn't seem to bother anyone enough to cause people to speak up. I guess it's because I'm still pretty new to the world of kink but I find it kind of humorous that on a sight where sexual kinks are commonly discussed there are people who have an issue with vulgar language.

    Talking about eating cum, anal sex, forcing guys to suck cock, and people sleeping around on their partners is all fine but no using fowl language... Is there a list of bad words somewhere I should know about?
     
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    The more I think of it the more I think this thread is conflating two discrete matters.

    One is the issue of cuckolding itself, which (like e.g. cross-dressing) is peripheral to chastity and well worth a sub-board of its own, as a tangent, as it were.

    The other is the issue of language and terminology and respect to women (and indeed men) generally, and this issue can and does occur also in posts which have nothing to do with cuckolding at all.

    In latter I personally am quite old-fashioned. I do not like nor use the words 'cum' and 'cunt' and similar. I don't think I have used either in any of my posts, ever, and I have made 4000 or so here , more than all others bar the founder MW and jemima. I am even iffy with 'cock'. On the other hand I accept that for many members (both genders) they cause no offence at all. During my three tenures as Mod I have seen the language and content of posts of this nature occasionally (not that often though) reported to the Mods and been considered on merits. But many others I'm sure will have slipped through the net unreported: it is not practicable for a Mod to check every new post that comes in. I think perhaps the issue of language and respect might be better discussed separately in a different thread. I should be very interested to see other members' views on it.

    It is in any event perfectly possible for a woman to be or want to be also sub to a bull (while Domme to hubby also) and for the experience to be posted here (or anywhere!) by her or bull or sub hubby without the use of any contentious or disrespectful vocabulary.
     
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    I don't have an issue with vulgar words, I was talking about the context.

    And as I said at the top of the thread, I am not telling anyone whats right or wrong or what they can or can't say, or censoring anyone.

    @LockedDiaperedSissy Of course you won't be banned, I was just stating my opinion :)
     
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    Basically I used the "C" word to describe my wife cuckolding me. My Queen is turned on by the feeling of being used by another man and the dialect between us uses the "C" word in our after cuckolding sessions. I was simply referring to that not even contemplating that what I said would offend the better half of this site. We do live a FLR and the "C" word would never be used in any other way I promise everyone that.
     
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    I think the one thing we can all agree on, if we are dom, sub, female or male, is that males should act in a gentlemanly way to women, especially on this site of all places.

    I don't see talking about dripping cunts in public as gentlemanly. Sorry, but that is my opinion.
     
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    I wholly agree with Lucy on that.
     
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    I think there is a huge difference between the fantasy of cuckolding and the reality. Those people who talk of "dripping cunts" and other such expressions are, in my opinion probably fantasists rather than realists. Fantasists have rights too, but I wonder if they realise how obvious they are sometimes.
     
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    You all talk about this demeaning to females. How about the males here who post day after day about when or how they are going to please their lady or how they did it and how great they were and how thet left her happy exhausted because they can use a strapon or oral. Boasting aboput having sex with a WOMAN IS FINE WHEN YOU ARE 16 TO 21. after
     
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