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    My ultra vanilla sex life with my wife has dwindled to nothing and multiple attempts at getting her interested again have failed. I tried chastity with her for about 8 months but she didn't get into it and just left me locked and forgotten. A couple of years had passed with no change in my situation. I then tried re-evaluating and refocusing my efforts on her and introducing her gently to non-kinky FLR concepts which she likes. She's happier than ever and sex has happened a couple of times in the last year which is progress but not improving as time goes on. To keep myself from masturbating over the long times between sex I lock myself in secret which isn't too difficult as she never cares to see me naked. I have very little confidence I'll ever get my old sex life back let alone all the kinky things I really want to try that I've kept secret for all my adult life. (They are quite tame by the standards of this site but I've never had a partner who I could tell without getting ridiculed or them being disgusted)


    All I know is if I don't try to move things along then nothing will change. This is my journey.
     
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    Device update:

    After buying countless devices to try and find the one which works for me I am currently getting closer to one I can stay in 24x7. I have just about trained down to a 38mm ring which fits very snug but I am working through the ball burn at 5am.

    The cage is very short but open. However, being uncut it is very messy to pee as the hole doesn't always line up and urine sprays everywhere sometimes being forced up behind my foreskin. I had tried the urethral tube which came with it but it took a lot of force to insert it which hurt and it was very uncomfortable. Pulling it out again was even more painful and produced a small amount of blood. I found a smaller diameter steel tube and this inserted more easily but was still a little painful. After trying a few times for a few hours each time it is gradually getting easier to insert and keep in.

    So, currently I'm in this cage with a 7mm urethral insert and it feels very good whilst flaccid. Erections are a little uncomfortable so I just need to work through them.
     
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    Just going to comment on here so it keeps me updated on your journey. I have confidence that in a few months I’ll be reading a success story.

    If you’re interested in sharing I would be interested in a bit more detail on your background. What was your sex life like before? As in what are you trying to recapture?
    How long have you been together and how long before the flames fizzled out for her?
    Do you have barriers in place to prevent chastity. Kids an such not?
    Could success through chastity equate to better emotional understanding of each other, or do you really desire the return of your sex life?
     
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    Our sex life initially was good but fairly tame (99% missionary in bed). We've been together 12 years and the passion declined after our second child 8 years ago. I was a bit depressed with life and work and this turned her off which made me more depressed and so it went on in a downward spiral. Masturbation took her place as I've always had a really high libido.

    I'm a bit emotionally-challenged as I'm probably on the autism spectrum. So it's difficult for me to tune into other people. However, I believe I am getting better as I get older so maybe it's just lack of experience. I don't really have the benefit of having done any real dating/courtship in my life. I had one girlfriend at college who was as inexperienced as me and fairly frigid. Then I went straight into a marriage with another woman which became stale after a few years until she suddenly left me. As my divorce went through I met my current wife and we decided to get married immediately. I didn't really have to work hard for any of these relationships - they just happened - so having to work hard to get the woman to whom I'm now married to want to be physical with me is something of a challenge. I don't want to leave her because I love her, we get on well for the most part, and my last divorce nearly broke me mentally and financially.

    I do believe chastity and breaking the habit of masturbation is helping but I'm not sure how much. I see it written many times that communication is important but I don't know how to tell her I need a sexual relationship. I did try to have a conversation about it but either my timing was wrong (there's never really an opportunity to be open with her) or I bungled the way I said it but she got really mad that I asked. I'm incredibly shy talking about this stuff to her so it took a lot of mental preparation on my part and I was devastated when she got upset and angry and dismissed my needs as being selfish.

    So, to answer your question, being more emotionally connected would be a good start. I also want my old sex life back and more. I envisaged as the years went by that we'd get more and more adventurous to keep things new. I have had 30 years of high desire with no means of expressing it.

    There's a lot more detail I could add but I'm finding it hard to explain my situation. Keep asking questions if you want to.
     
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    How old are you both? How is your health and fitness?
     
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    Both early 50s but very fit and active. I'm certainly more muscular, fitter and healthier than I was in my 20s and my wife looks 10 years younger which doesn't help my frustration :)
     
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    Device update:

    I managed 18 hours including overnight with the urethral insert in. Nocturnal erections were uncomfortable/painful inside my glans. Also urine managed to flow around the outside of the tube and still get inside my foreskin so I removed it this morning (the tube, not my foreskin!). I'm going to continue with the cage so as not to undo my acclimatisation but if by some miracle my wife does eventually get into keeping me in chastity I may have to get a custom cage.

    Relationship update:

    Wife seems happy still. I get the kids breakfast in the morning, bring her tea in bed, make lunches, take the kids to school etc. I got a nice cuddle when I got home from the school run.

    However there is nothing sexual at all in our relationship. I don't know how to get her interested and I've tried everything I can think of like flowers, going to a restaurant, buying gifts etc.

    Here's a couple of conversations:

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    Me: Grabs her bum and tries to kiss her
    Her: "You're horny aren't you?"
    Me: <nodding and smiling> "Yes!"
    Her: "Well, stop it. Going and do something."

    2.

    Me: "How about me giving you a nice massage and concentrating on pleasuring you? Whatever you'd like - I'm here to please you."
    Her: "Whatever I like? Well that sounds like whatever you like. I don't want anything, thanks." <continues to read phone>

    There's got to be a way to crack this...
     
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    My son is on the spectrum. Not fully autistic, more ADHD. I’m told it’s something that lessons over time, but seeing him now and how he communicates I understand your struggle. He doesn’t comprehend that the way he says certain things is far more important than what’s being said, often coming across rude. He’s also very egocentric with his conversation and actions right now. Anger is his default reaction to difficult situations. He’s actually a really decent kid, but he makes it so difficult to see at times and it’s hard because he doesn’t even know he’s doing these things.

    I think when you gave your relationship update you showed that things are progressing well outside of the bedroom. I think though in these situations you try not to make it all about sex and your needs. You grabbed her bum because you think she’s attractive, yes your horny but focus on her when she asks. She’s obviously under the impression that your thinking about yourself, so go out your way to show her you’re doing it for her.
    Like here, maybe she’s onto you!! Lol. You can massage her without it being sexual. There may be a reason she doesn’t want anything sexual from you and it may be about her. My wife’s body confidence dropped significantly after our last child, it takes a lot for me to convince her how attractive I still find her… I mean is a raging boner every time she’s naked not enough? Apparently not, women are strange creatures!

    As the relationship continues to flourish her desire for you (and importantly sex with you) will grow. If If I got home from the school run after doing everything in the morning and got a cuddle for it I’d be pretty happy!
     
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    This was a one-off example as I had tried waiting for her to initiate something - anything(!) but it never happened. That was a time I tried to show her how much I desired her when I'd waited about a year for her to do anything and I suppose I got impatient. The trouble is it's been so long anything I do is going to seem obvious.

    Yes, I've tried non-sexual massage but she's not interested probably because she now thinks I'm after sex. I lit candles and made the bedroom nice and warm as being cold was another excuse. She took one look and told me it was all too staged and made her uncomfortable so she went downstairs and back to whatever she was doing. Another defeat which left me hurt.

    She has a fantastic body but I'm always told to look away when she gets undressed as she doesn't like being seen naked. Strange creatures indeed!

    I do hope so. The trouble is the hugs and cuddles are more like brother and sister than husband and wife.

    I've asked if she ever thinks about sex and she says yes it does cross her mind fleetingly but then I'm not available because I'm working or something so the opportunity is missed. The couple of times we did have sex in the last year or so was because I was at home, the kids were at school and I literally dropped everything I was doing and came to bed right then. Those times were within a couple of weeks of each other and then it's been several months of nothing again.

    I suppose what I'm attempting to say is that trying to be my best self for 2 years is tough without reciprocation. I don't know how long this is going to take but I suppose I just have to keep at it.
     
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    Sorry to say but ...

    If sex is important and interesting to you and not to her then perhaps it's time to accept that truth, have a frank conversation, and perhaps hire an escort/domme, have an open relationship, or move on.

    Life is too short to keep waiting and hoping something changes.
     
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    Yeah, I feel like I’m understanding. I think personally, her image of her body is not the same as yours and that’s why she doesn’t like you seeing her. She’s probably uncomfortable.
    I think genuinely a cold bedroom is a major turn off.
    I would also agree that staging and expectation can often do the opposite of what you expect.

    Personally, I’d be open about the cage when you feel ready. Explain to her that you want your relationship to improve but you’re worried that everything you’re doing is coming across as wanting more. Yes, you want sex, but the relationship isn’t where you want it to be and you want that first. The cage prevents you from expecting that. Yes it’s sexual, but it’s quite the opposite. When she’s ready she may come round.
    Tell her the things you write on here. Sometimes you feel like brother and sister and that’s tough as you want a little more intimacy.
    I’m not sure yet if she knows that the lack of sex is a problem for you? Have your broached that subject or does it evolve into an argument when you try?
     
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    You dont think maybe he should voice his concerns? Maybe she’ll start to consider the relationship and also put some graft in? Maybe try and overcome her own insecurities? Maybe she’ll be honest and say why she doesn’t want sex…
    Get an escort in so she feels even more inferior? That’s the advice here?? :eek:
     
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    This is great advice. I want to tell her all this but I've been unsure of quite how.

    Yes, I did try to tell her about the lack of sex but she got upset and angry. I didn't ask as it felt wrong but I think perhaps she felt bad but at the same time not willing to try. I know she's told me in the past how string her feelings are on being coerced into doing things she doesn't want especially when it concerns her body. I get that.

    Thank you - I will try to come up with the right words and time to tell her my feelings.
     
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    I think you missed the "have a frank conversation" part.
     
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    @hopefulhubby , I feel for you here, I really do. I know how intimidating it must be to try and start a meaningful conversation with her knowing what her reaction will likely be. I think it might be better to write her an email expressing all of your feelings and concerns. The first benefit of putting it in writing is that you can read what you wrote before you send it, and edit it to improve it. You could even write a draft and review it the next day to see if it still reads right. And you will get through everything that you want to say without being interrupted by her anger outbursts. Also, it gives her the chance to read it in private and collect her thoughts before responding.

    I would detail how much you've been trying to revive your relationship over the past many years and how frustrated you are that her reactions appear to show that she has no idea what you're going through, or if she does know, she doesn't appear to care. I would focus on the relationship side of things more than the sex side. I think you need to re-establish intimacy between the two of you first, otherwise she may view any sexual acts as just that, a sexual act rather than an act of love.

    While I'm sure she understands that you're horny, I don't think she has any idea of just how desperate you are, and I don't mean desperate for sex, I mean desperate for a connection with her. The fact that you said that you don't want to leave her shows that you have at least considered it. And I think she should be aware that if nothing changes, separation might be a possibility.

    I wish you good luck.
     
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    The biggest threats to any relationship are resentment and unmet needs and expectations. Resentment creeps in as you meet all of her needs for you but she can't be bothered to meet yours. Here is a good link about Sexless Marriages because that's exactly what you are in. Maybe share it with her and ask her if she is happy living in a sexless marriage (that may make her think about it). https://thepleasantrelationship.com/sexless-marriage/

    If she knew for certain that sex wasn't an expectation, she may be open more to things like a massage. Lock up and put the keys into a Kitchen Safe timer box and show her that the penis is 100% out of the equation for x hours or tomorrow, etc. You could also ask her to try non penetration things or even just make out while you get yourself off.

    Has she started menopause? For some women libido can increase but for most it plummets. You could ask her about talking to her doctor and get hormone tests but that often sounds like a hassle for someone that isn't feeling affected by a problem. HER needs are being met so no libido isn't a problem for her.

    You could also ask her if she is ok with you finding a sex partner outside the marriage since she doesn't want to meet your minimal needs in that department. She will probably not like that because she instinctively knows that another woman will have sway on you and that YOU will not feel compelled to go out of your way to meet HER non-sexual needs. You don't have to make threats but you should make it clear that you didn't sign up for a sexless marriage and that it's an existential threat to the marriage and all the things she gets out of the relationship.

    How would she feel if you just quit working because you didn't "feel like it" anymore? Just try it and see how long she tolerates you not meeting her financial needs (she would divorce you and try to take everything she can).

    I'm kind of in the same boat but we don't have kids together. I've told her how I feel and nothing has changed in the last year. We have been doing a month to month lease because I won't commit to a year lease but that hasn't changed anything and now I'm looking at moving out. I just don't get anything from the relationship anymore. I hope you have better luck than me.
     
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    @Jessica Alexander I'm sorry to hear that you're in a similar situation, I wish you good luck too.
     
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    @Jessica Alexander Sorry to hear about what you're going through. I hope things get better for you soon.
     
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    I'm still struggling to find a way to bring the subject up with my wife. There's never a time where it seems appropriate and I am in danger of just blurting it out and getting the wrong reaction. She very often tells me she doesn't understand what I am saying because I communicate in an odd way and then it leads to a bit of an argument which destroys the moment and the point I was trying to make gets lost.

    I can only think the time would be when/if we ever have sex again and then I can tell her my needs. Hopefully she will be in the right frame of mind. I wonder how many months I'll have to wait.

    Today I feel down about the whole situation. I've taken my cage off. I just don't feel in the mood to wear it at the moment.
     
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    oooh you am sad and i hope that when you do say something to your wife She say that you can be lockup and that She want to keep you.
     
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    Try writing a letter. I feel I can take my time explaining better that way.
     
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    I was just going to say write a letter (email) also. You can take your time, you can re-read it several times to make sure that it sounds ok, and she can read it when it suits her too, so you don't have to pick the right moment.
     
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    Thanks for sharing.
     
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